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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2013 01:29 GMT
#401
On January 06 2013 10:27 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 10:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Jay tunneling me, haha.

Hey look a post with out substance lollll

How about you write a case on someone you wanna lynch plz

I find it ironic that you think im tunneling you, as I have called DP scummy and said I would vote him at the time.
And I have made a case on ShaioPi.


You really don't know the meaning of ironic, do you?

And no, you've pretty much had it out for me since the start of the game. Just think you need to calm yourself.

@Hapa

What do you make of Yamatos vote on ya?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 06 2013 01:32 GMT
#402
On January 06 2013 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:
@ DP

What's the sense in voting for someone that's likely to get replaced? Also I'm rather surprised to see you not following up on Jay at all.


If he get's replaced I'll move my vote. I did follow up on J. I read his entire filter from hero mini mafia and some of the context. The thing is that aside from his sniping which I could see a townie doing I wouldn't want to lynch him. He has contributed to the discussion, and even though I don't agree with a lot of what he says I can't justify a lynch on him at the moment.

He has scumhunted. He has been fairly active. He has been fairly open to discussion.

The one thing that worries me is that in Hero he seemed to be more engaged in the byplay than he has been this game but the difference is minimal and as I just said it isn't enough to lynch him for.

Basically If I left my vote on Jay it would be solely for the sniping/misinterpretation and that isn't enough for me.

Basically I have no solid solid reads at this juncture. And my largest read previously (you) is acting quite townie and has justified what I viewed as extreme confirmation bias in tunnelling me with a townie motive.

So it's down to voting lurkers for the time being.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 01:33 GMT
#403
On January 06 2013 10:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 10:27 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 06 2013 10:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Jay tunneling me, haha.

Hey look a post with out substance lollll

How about you write a case on someone you wanna lynch plz

I find it ironic that you think im tunneling you, as I have called DP scummy and said I would vote him at the time.
And I have made a case on ShaioPi.


You really don't know the meaning of ironic, do you?

And no, you've pretty much had it out for me since the start of the game. Just think you need to calm yourself.

@Hapa

What do you make of Yamatos vote on ya?


Nothing really. It's as useless as the rest of his game.

It's also rather sketchy considering he was sure I was town only yesterday.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 06 2013 01:33 GMT
#404
On January 06 2013 10:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Regarding Shaio, he's pretty lurky as town too. I hate it, but it is what it is. Can't get a read on the guy if he ain't around.


Yeah but it is worse as scum.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2013 01:36 GMT
#405
@Yamato

Care to clarify why you're voting for Hapa? It seems rather OMGUSy to me.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
January 06 2013 01:36 GMT
#406
RiseAgain is warned for inactivity.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 06 2013 01:39 GMT
#407
ugh im frustrated non else things that CC is scummy. DP thoughts on my two cc cases?

And hapa why are you convinced CC is townie he hasn't wrote a single case on his reads.

It would also suck if Rise got replaced. I just want him to come back tho. ShaioPi lets see ya
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 01:40 GMT
#408
On January 06 2013 10:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 10:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Regarding Shaio, he's pretty lurky as town too. I hate it, but it is what it is. Can't get a read on the guy if he ain't around.


Yeah but it is worse as scum.


Perhaps. My mind always goes back to LVII where he had 7 posts as town by Day 3 or something, and I was screaming for a vigi shot on him.

My feeling was that he makes a ton more sense as town, and his scum play (Liquid City) reads as super-forced. I've seen neither so far in this game though =/

On January 06 2013 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:
@ DP

What's the sense in voting for someone that's likely to get replaced? Also I'm rather surprised to see you not following up on Jay at all.


If he get's replaced I'll move my vote. I did follow up on J. I read his entire filter from hero mini mafia and some of the context. The thing is that aside from his sniping which I could see a townie doing I wouldn't want to lynch him. He has contributed to the discussion, and even though I don't agree with a lot of what he says I can't justify a lynch on him at the moment.

He has scumhunted. He has been fairly active. He has been fairly open to discussion.

The one thing that worries me is that in Hero he seemed to be more engaged in the byplay than he has been this game but the difference is minimal and as I just said it isn't enough to lynch him for.

Basically If I left my vote on Jay it would be solely for the sniping/misinterpretation and that isn't enough for me.

Basically I have no solid solid reads at this juncture. And my largest read previously (you) is acting quite townie and has justified what I viewed as extreme confirmation bias in tunnelling me with a townie motive.

So it's down to voting lurkers for the time being.


Idunno. The Rise vote just seems like a cop-out to me, given that all we know about his alignment is that he's a lurker.

Can you give me thoughts on Yamato, especially in light of his recent vote on me?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 06 2013 01:40 GMT
#409
On January 06 2013 10:39 jaybrundage wrote:
ugh im frustrated non else things that CC is scummy. DP thoughts on my two cc cases?

And hapa why are you convinced CC is townie he hasn't wrote a single case on his reads.

It would also suck if Rise got replaced. I just want him to come back tho. ShaioPi lets see ya


BRB going to reread them. Pretty comfortable in a townie cc read right now though.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 01:42 GMT
#410
On January 06 2013 10:39 jaybrundage wrote:
ugh im frustrated non else things that CC is scummy. DP thoughts on my two cc cases?

And hapa why are you convinced CC is townie he hasn't wrote a single case on his reads.

It would also suck if Rise got replaced. I just want him to come back tho. ShaioPi lets see ya


'Cause writing cases is not the defining factor in making a read. In fact, CC has been overall very clear about his suspicions - it's just that they're rather spread out through his posting.

He's an active, open, and willing participant in discussion, and the logical conclusion is that he's town.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2013 01:43 GMT
#411
On January 06 2013 10:39 jaybrundage wrote:
ugh im frustrated non else things that CC is scummy. DP thoughts on my two cc cases?

And hapa why are you convinced CC is townie he hasn't wrote a single case on his reads.

It would also suck if Rise got replaced. I just want him to come back tho. ShaioPi lets see ya


Cases don't equal town, and it seems to be your only real ammunition for my scumminess =\

Cases are only there for the sake of convenience, brevity, and to a certain extent extrapolation. It's a small game... stuff ain't that hard to find.

At this point it's more constructive to simply talk and discuss with each other than make huge cases, etc.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 01:46 GMT
#412
On January 06 2013 10:36 Blazinghand wrote:
RiseAgain is warned for inactivity.


At what point will you consider replacing RiseAgain? 48 hours of absence is a bit absurd.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 06 2013 01:46 GMT
#413
Yeah. Your case was pretty weak. You say that he has no cases so he is scum. He has been poking and prodding. Large formal cases are not the only way to scumhunt and are in fact the easiest form of fake scumhunting to manufacture. CC has been active and commenting on the byplay. He has promoted a pro-town atmosphere in the midst of a shit fight between hapa and myself, when it was very much to scums advantage to see that out to my death.

He has been transparent enough and done enough to be considered quite townie.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 06 2013 01:50 GMT
#414
on Yamato. like. I could lynch him but it would be a gamble. I can't find anything to distinguish him between useless townie and useless scum. He is just useless.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 06 2013 01:51 GMT
#415
On January 06 2013 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
on Yamato. like. I could lynch him but it would be a gamble. I can't find anything to distinguish him between useless townie and useless scum. He is just useless.


Kind of feel the same way right now. I want to hear more from our SP fellow however...
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 01:53 GMT
#416
Well the main contention that I have is that he's super active and aggressive in all of his town games. Apparently he's busy RL-wise (hence me not voting him yet), but I still think his general attitude/personality seems too passive for his town play.

We'll see where he goes with his vote on me though. I'm a bit annoyed he didn't stick around for me to pick his mind though =/
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 02:04 GMT
#417
To map out my thoughts a bit:

People that are useless:
Yamato, RiseAgain, ShaioPi

People I wouldn't lynch above the useless d00ds:
Xatalos

People that are likely town, but I'm just infinitely paranoid about:
DarthPunk

People that are likely town:
MrZ, MrCC, Jay



I feel like two scum have to come from the useless category (possibly including Xatalos). Pretty much everyone else has given me some reason to think they're town except for three players.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 02:06 GMT
#418
Also regarding Jay, I like his recent activity and attitude a lot. Even if his case on CC is bad, it doesn't seem malicious.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 02:07 GMT
#419
Hapa, you never said what you think of yourself.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 06 2013 02:08 GMT
#420
On January 06 2013 11:07 MrZentor wrote:
Hapa, you never said what you think of yourself.


People that are lovable, townie dicks
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
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