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ShiaoPi
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I said that the exchange they had read kind of townish. But that I disliked DP's reluctance to vote. Xatalos is null just as easy as that. Read that post again please. I clearly said that DP is the weaker read of the two and that his behaviour does not add up. My thoughtprocess is right in that post. With all that is happening in thread right now I am tending towards lynching DP, but I would really hear more from Rise and yamato | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:24 DarthPunk wrote: Well you linked to something that wasn't page one. So grats. And you are using my meta wrong, again. Seriously you guys need to stop using meta when you clearly can't read me accurately with it. The key point is not pushing another townie that is weaker. The key point of my meta is DROPPING the STRONGER case for a WEAKER case that is on a weaker player. The fact is I am clearly not dropping the stronger case on you. I am still quite determined to go after you. That does not mean I want to ignore everything else in the thread. I linked the post where I had a selection of quotes from your page one filter. Learn2read. Secondly, you are dropping the case in a way. When players like Shaio ask for your case against me, you are unwilling to reproduce it. You went from balls out convinced I was scum in your page-1 filter to all of a sudden "unsure" of yourself. You dropped your significant suspicions to pursue Xatalos. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
This argument could pretty much go on forever between you two. What say you guys to SP being super ultra mega neutral so far this game? Concerning or no? | ||
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jaybrundage
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
The stuff on hapa is really wishy washy: let me summarize for you: -you dont like crafted posts -pushing Rise -sounding off with calling things "potentially scummy" -hapa not reaching the same conclusions as you do -only following up on ppl instead of starting the push The only things which stand out to me is only following up to people instead of starting to push and in connection being rather unhelpful for a town-hapa. Well as a matter of fact he started pushing you (call it OMGUS whatever) and poof, suddenly there is not much there besides hapa being a dick and tunneling to madness. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
Case on hapa very simply Pushes weak as shit wagons for weak as shit reasons when he should know better. Look at original post. When Questioned he states that it was for the purposes of promoting activity and discussion. Which is fine. But then I ask why not push lurkers as they are hurting the game more than yamato or Rise were at that point as both had posted pretty recently. Tries to say that not pushing lurkers makes me scum which is fucking absurd. Hapa proceeds to go apeshit and omgus me and tunnel me which is not the reaction I would expect from a town hapa who almost always gives me a town read in similar circumstances. He then misinterprets and misrepresents things that I say in order to paint me as scummy and discredit my view of his scummines to the point in which it seems as if it is deliberate and pushing an agenda rather than scumhunting and searching genuinely for my alignment. He flames and omgus' away regardless of what I say. Which is unlike any town hapa ever. He has never not called me town correctly aside from his scum game in mario. A lot of it is gut feeling and a complete wtf?!?! reaction to hapa going apeshit at the lightest and IMO justified pressure originally. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
He went from completely sure that I was scum on Day 1: On January 05 2013 07:07 DarthPunk wrote: I will be gone soon. If I stop posting you know why. @everyone besides hapa. If you get outposted by scum as town you fail at this game. Just saying. Well, that is cool with me HAPA. I don't have to convince you you are scum. I just have to convince the town. And that should be straightforward after this little party we have been having together. And yes I do know hapas play. and he is correct in saying that this is all hallmarks of his town play but scum try to EMULATE their town play. The key difference is that Town hapa is almost always CLEARLY town. and right now He is not clearly town but quite scummy. I am gone now. If someone wishes to talk I will be back in several hours. ... and now is trying to say that he was never sure of his read in the first place: As for not voting for hapa. I didn't feel the need to vote hapa as I was not yet sure he was scum and still am not sure. In a format such as this I don't really like parking my vote on someone for long periods of time. The last time I did so in a instant majority game someone got hammered whilst i was asleep with my vote on him as a pressure vote. So i do not wish to repeat that experience. Especially on a player like hapa that I wouldn't want to lynch unless I was very very certain of his guilt, as he is being quite active and creating content. ... That is the key point in all of this. I want to be certain of hapa's guilt before I push for his lynch. There are very good reasons to be unsure of my guilt but hapa doesn't give a fuck about that. He wants to push his lynch first on Rise then on Yamato (lynch bait of the century) then on me. Hapa demonstrably does not give a fuck about being Correct he cares about his agenda and manipulates the facts in order to facilitate that. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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DarthPunk
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:38 DarthPunk wrote: ugh I am not scum. So there is that. Case on hapa very simply Pushes weak as shit wagons for weak as shit reasons when he should know better. Look at original post. When Questioned he states that it was for the purposes of promoting activity and discussion. Which is fine. But then I ask why not push lurkers as they are hurting the game more than yamato or Rise were at that point as both had posted pretty recently. Tries to say that not pushing lurkers makes me scum which is fucking absurd. Hapa proceeds to go apeshit and omgus me and tunnel me which is not the reaction I would expect from a town hapa who almost always gives me a town read in similar circumstances. He then misinterprets and misrepresents things that I say in order to paint me as scummy and discredit my view of his scummines to the point in which it seems as if it is deliberate and pushing an agenda rather than scumhunting and searching genuinely for my alignment. He flames and omgus' away regardless of what I say. Which is unlike any town hapa ever. He has never not called me town correctly aside from his scum game in mario. A lot of it is gut feeling and a complete wtf?!?! reaction to hapa going apeshit at the lightest and IMO justified pressure originally. Okay so basically it is more of a meta-read on Hapa you have? Why be so inconsistent then? Another question, Hapa is not in this game anymore, who do you want to lynch? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:40 ShiaoPi wrote: Okay so basically it is more of a meta-read on Hapa you have? Why be so inconsistent then? Another question, Hapa is not in this game anymore, who do you want to lynch? It was a gut feeling. I was trying to fucking push and gauge his reaction. His reaction was to go fucking crazy with flames and OMGUS. Then IM like. Oh that is weird. Flame back a bit and here we are. Everyone fucking sheeping hapa with no actual input or case and me being on the table for a day one mislynch for the fourth game in a row rofl. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:40 ShiaoPi wrote: Okay so basically it is more of a meta-read on Hapa you have? Why be so inconsistent then? Another question, Hapa is not in this game anymore, who do you want to lynch? Weren't you reading the thread? | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:39 DarthPunk wrote: how about everyone who is down for voting for me votes for me? Don't hammer but then I know where I stand at least. So far phantom votes on you Me Hapa ShiaoPi And possible Xantols | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Just clarifying his stance, anyway I am out for lunch, see you later | ||
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DarthPunk
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Might have changed from his Xatalos read by now, just asking | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:42 jaybrundage wrote: So far phantom votes on you Me Hapa ShiaoPi And possible Xantols and it takes 5 to hammer. ew. I can't believe I am this bad as town day one always. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:38 DarthPunk wrote: ugh I am not scum. So there is that. Case on hapa very simply Pushes weak as shit wagons for weak as shit reasons when he should know better. Look at original post. Day 1 cases are naturally "weak." In fact, name me one town game in which I do not aggressively push a weak case Day 1 in order to create discussion. When Questioned he states that it was for the purposes of promoting activity and discussion. Which is fine. But then I ask why not push lurkers as they are hurting the game more than yamato or Rise were at that point as both had posted pretty recently. Tries to say that not pushing lurkers makes me scum which is fucking absurd. How is it absurd? You've made your hatred for lurkers really clear. Yet not once have you attempted to even attempted to do anything about the lurking problem. Ever. Not even once. Hapa proceeds to go apeshit and omgus me and tunnel me which is not the reaction I would expect from a town hapa who almost always gives me a town read in similar circumstances. I did the exact same thing in Witchcraft Mini. As town. Fail. He then misinterprets and misrepresents things that I say in order to paint me as scummy and discredit my view of his scummines to the point in which it seems as if it is deliberate and pushing an agenda rather than scumhunting and searching genuinely for my alignment. Just because you say it's a mis-interpretation doesn't mean it is. I quoted posts of yours that demonstrated your "hatred" of lurkers. There is nothing in that sequence that is a mis-interpretation. He flames and omgus' away regardless of what I say. Which is unlike any town hapa ever. He has never not called me town correctly aside from his scum game in mario. I was the first to accurately push a town read on you in Rockband Mini. I called your alignment after a day-long OMGUS war in Witchcraft Mini. A lot of it is gut feeling and a complete wtf?!?! reaction to hapa going apeshit at the lightest and IMO justified pressure originally. I OMGUS for small, inane reasons as town: true or false? This started as gut-feeling, and your play is vindicating my gut. And my gut is pretty darn accurate. | ||
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DarthPunk
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:45 DarthPunk wrote: oh and If I had to lynch now and hapa was dead. hmmm. dunno I would need to read more filters. Actually I would wait to vote until something solid comes up. Remember when you called Xatalos scummy as shit? Yeah I guess you forgot about that huh? | ||
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