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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 05 2013 03:50 GMT
#201
yamato77 this is kind of really silly.....
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 05 2013 03:56 GMT
#202
What in the fuck Yamato?
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2013 03:57 GMT
#203
Do people really think it was that difficult to understand what I said?

Anyway Yamato your logic is bad and I think you're faking this read. I don't think I'm that scummy, but I'm an easy target.

Yamato is scummy.

*Vote Yamato*

No but seriously, if you're going to vote me, TUNNEL ME BRO. Get at me.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2013 03:58 GMT
#204
Oh hey Hapa whats up. I need someone to talk to. Wanna cuddle? What you think of Yamato going full retard right now?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 05 2013 04:03 GMT
#205
I'm catching up a bit right now. Regarding your Xatalos case, I did find his initial post slightly scummy (spreading suspicion amongst 3 players and not making any conclusions). I'm less convinced than you about his stance on DP, because I was really attacking his town-read on DP and pushing the idea that DP is scum at the time he made the switch.

However, Yamato's vote/post is just all sorts of absurd. You don't call someone's case "fake" without any rationale to back it up. This is not how this game works, and it's absolutely retarded play. I'm not sure if it's scummy or not yet, but like damn.
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2013 04:07 GMT
#206
On January 05 2013 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm catching up a bit right now. Regarding your Xatalos case, I did find his initial post slightly scummy (spreading suspicion amongst 3 players and not making any conclusions). I'm less convinced than you about his stance on DP, because I was really attacking his town-read on DP and pushing the idea that DP is scum at the time he made the switch.

However, Yamato's vote/post is just all sorts of absurd. You don't call someone's case "fake" without any rationale to back it up. This is not how this game works, and it's absolutely retarded play. I'm not sure if it's scummy or not yet, but like damn.


Truth, I wasn't in here at the time so I can't get the best feel for the atmosphere / mood people were in. But the timestamp suggests he switches the read soup quickly. You made one post in between his two contradictory ones. Meh, seems like le scum to me.

Totes not down for a Rise lynch right now if you're wondering Shiao.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 05 2013 04:11 GMT
#207
Well I can't say much about Rise until he gets his ass back in here and posts.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 05 2013 04:13 GMT
#208
@ Yamato
On January 05 2013 12:37 yamato77 wrote:
Do people really think it was that difficult to understand what I said?

Anyway CC your case is bad and I think you're faking this read. I don't think Xatalos is that scummy, but he is an easy target.

CC is scummy.

##Vote: Mr Cheesecake


I'm expecting you to explain the bolded in detail when you return.
1) Why do you think CC's case is bad?
2) Why do you think that CC is "faking" the read (and didn't just build a bad case as town)?
3) Why do you think Xatalos "isn't all that scummy?" If you had a strong town read on Xatalos, I'd understand this more. However, objecting to a case against a player that's seemingly a null read is... sketchy.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 05 2013 04:21 GMT
#209
Also Yamato is especially worrisome given his abysmal level of activity and engagement in the thread. He's borderline spammy in town games I've seen of his (Recently finished YANMM for example). In this game, he's shown considerable detachment from the thread.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 05 2013 04:23 GMT
#210
I'm at work. my schedule keeis changing

I will answer all your questions an more in about nine or ten hours
Writer@WriterYamato
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2013 04:23 GMT
#211
He's always been scummy as shit as town, though, for whatever it's worth.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 05 2013 04:26 GMT
#212
On January 05 2013 13:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
He's always been scummy as shit as town, though, for whatever it's worth.


In what sense? Is his logic normally this bad? Even if so, it's the activity levels and lack of engagement that are most concerning to me.
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2013 04:28 GMT
#213
On January 05 2013 13:26 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 13:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
He's always been scummy as shit as town, though, for whatever it's worth.


In what sense? Is his logic normally this bad? Even if so, it's the activity levels and lack of engagement that are most concerning to me.


Think Eywa of Witchcraft. I think I compared Eywa to Yamato... said that he produced "The Yamato effect" or something like that.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 05 2013 04:30 GMT
#214
I find it hard ot see yamato as scum. Just bad town play imo. Like a wtf this makes no sense at fuckiing all town play.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 05 2013 04:31 GMT
#215
On January 05 2013 13:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 13:26 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 05 2013 13:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
He's always been scummy as shit as town, though, for whatever it's worth.


In what sense? Is his logic normally this bad? Even if so, it's the activity levels and lack of engagement that are most concerning to me.


Think Eywa of Witchcraft. I think I compared Eywa to Yamato... said that he produced "The Yamato effect" or something like that.


Nothing will ever be comparable to Eywa in Witchcraft.

Anyway from what I got from Yamato, he tunnels people aggressively and frequently as town. I haven't even gotten a glimpse of that yet this game.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 05 2013 04:32 GMT
#216
On January 05 2013 13:30 jaybrundage wrote:
I find it hard ot see yamato as scum. Just bad town play imo. Like a wtf this makes no sense at fuckiing all town play.


Ok how so? You're going to have to go in more detail here. What in particular about his play makes you think this? Because not making sense isn't a town trait.
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2013 04:36 GMT
#217
@Jay

Who, right now, do you wanna lynch? Why does not making sense as town play = bad play and not mafia play?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 05 2013 04:40 GMT
#218
Doing things that draw a shit load of attention to you for no fucking reason isn't a scum tell.

He came out of no where said something about cc's case being bad soft defended Xaltos and then decided to vote cc . It could be a ploy for discussion it could be a pressure vote.

But there is one thing that it did do and that is draw alot of attention to himself. I dont see mafia making a play like and draw scrutiny on themselves. For no foreseeable reason.

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 05 2013 04:41 GMT
#219
On January 05 2013 13:40 jaybrundage wrote:
Doing things that draw a shit load of attention to you for no fucking reason isn't a scum tell.

He came out of no where said something about cc's case being bad soft defended Xaltos and then decided to vote cc . It could be a ploy for discussion it could be a pressure vote.

But there is one thing that it did do and that is draw alot of attention to himself. I dont see mafia making a play like and draw scrutiny on themselves. For no foreseeable reason.



I hate these kinds of defenses. Because obvious scum can get away with shit. Trouble is, he's (probably) right.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 05 2013 04:45 GMT
#220
On January 05 2013 13:40 jaybrundage wrote:
Doing things that draw a shit load of attention to you for no fucking reason isn't a scum tell.

He came out of no where said something about cc's case being bad soft defended Xaltos and then decided to vote cc . It could be a ploy for discussion it could be a pressure vote.

But there is one thing that it did do and that is draw alot of attention to himself. I dont see mafia making a play like and draw scrutiny on themselves. For no foreseeable reason.


I disagree.

For one, I've never seen yamato play a scum-game, so I'm not sure what he's capable of.

Secondly, his post is attention grabbing because it was bad, and NOT because he was attention-seeking. If he was attention-seeking, I'd agree with your town read. This is simply not the case with Yamato's post here. This is especially true since Yamato NORMALLY is very boisterous, active, and confrontational with his scumreads as town. He's been the exact opposite so far.



Also Jay, you've been very forthcoming with town-reads, but haven't had any scum-reads to offer. Who is your top scumread right now and why?
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