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slOosh
3291 Posts
"None of Palmar, slOosh or Crossfire99 are scum." "None of the following players have anti-town roles at the moment: Palmar, slOosh, Crossfire99" "None of the following players have scum roles at the moment: Palmar, slOosh, Crossfire99" Pick whatever your role works best with, and justify your choice when you can. And results of course. | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
@Blazinghand: "Any time a wagon gains momentum this quickly with no response it's on a townie." is just not true. Have you considered that the wagon was formed so fast that a mafia scumbuddy didn't have time to come to his defense before people were already jumping on? If someone hard defended Fool in this situation, it would have come off to me as incredibly scummy, especially since we were about to see his flip. If Fool had flipped mafia, then his scumbuddy who tried to defend him would have been immediately under the scope. Now that he isn't under direct threat, though, it is interesting to me to see who is coming to his defense... | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On December 14 2012 04:06 Dienosore wrote: @Blazinghand: "Any time a wagon gains momentum this quickly with no response it's on a townie." is just not true. Have you considered that the wagon was formed so fast that a mafia scumbuddy didn't have time to come to his defense before people were already jumping on? If someone hard defended Fool in this situation, it would have come off to me as incredibly scummy, especially since we were about to see his flip. If Fool had flipped mafia, then his scumbuddy who tried to defend him would have been immediately under the scope. Now that he isn't under direct threat, though, it is interesting to me to see who is coming to his defense... What do you mean by this? Why would scum go through the trouble of defending a buddy who can't be lynched? | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
This isnt hard to understand. Are you intentionally being dense Sloosh? | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
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slOosh
3291 Posts
You say it's a waste of time when it's clear you are focusing your attention on iGrok world, when today's lynch in this world is far from set. Who do you think is scum in this world? | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
Im paying attention to both worlds. I have two tabs open and I'm monitoring both at the same time. I don't have any scum reads atm. I am curious, though, as to why you were so quick to swap your vote onto Crossfire with little explanation. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 14 2012 04:04 slOosh wrote: "None of the following players have anti-town roles at the moment: Palmar, slOosh, Crossfire99" I like the phrasing here because Grey has warned of third parties. However, our win-con is the following: On December 11 2012 07:00 GreYMisT wrote: Town will win when all anti town elements are eliminated from the game We need to get rid of scum AND any 3P that count as "anti-town elements." Therefore, I want to phrase the question as anti-town. The fact that our wincon is phrased like that means that there very well could be multiple third parties, some which are friendly/neutral, and some which are "anti-town." Anti-town is the phrasing I want then, because it will cover scum and anyone else we need to kill, 3P or no. Just taking out scum doesn't meet our wincon, and I don't want the results muddled by catching a false positive on a 3P that isn't anti-town. So if someone would please go with "None of the following players are anti-town elements at the moment: Palmar, slOosh, Crossfire99" I like that phrasing better, because that is the wording of our wincon, and the wording of EVERYTHING that we need to get rid of. | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 14 2012 04:38 Dienosore wrote: K so let me see if I have this right. Austin's power involves making other people ask questions, and then he get an answer that only he can read via pm. SOUNDS SKETCHY TO ME. It's hard for me to blindly trust someone like this. What's to stop him from lying about the results if he is scum? Im paying attention to both worlds. I have two tabs open and I'm monitoring both at the same time. I don't have any scum reads atm. I am curious, though, as to why you were so quick to swap your vote onto Crossfire with little explanation. There is NOTHING to stop my from lying about the results. Absolutely nothing. However, you should be looking at WHY I'm using the power now and HOW I'm using it. (1) We lynch today (2) There isn't a good lynch candidate on the table right now (3) Discussion stagnated I am using my power to (1) Try and confirm some reads (2) Narrow down our choices (3) Create discussion (4) Get rid of my power, it's one-shot, so that I can play normal and not be weird. I'm not town because I have a power. But I'm using my power right now for townie reasons, and you can either trust or not trust what I report as the PM I receive. You might also be able to see why I asked the question earlier about whether one player could have multiple alignments, as I wanted to know how to phrase my question. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
"None of the following players are anti-town elements at the moment: Palmar, slOosh, Crossfire99" | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 14 2012 04:48 slOosh wrote: "None of the following players are anti-town elements at the moment: Palmar, slOosh, Crossfire99" (Don't tell the bar association I'm doing this) | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
No matter what they are, 17th party planar dragon, whatever, if they're anti-town elements, we need to get rid of them. If they're NOT anti-town elements, we don't. Whatever their own wincons, whatever we might classify them, the deciding factor for what I need from them is whether or not they are "anti-town elements" | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
What's up with that objection? a joke cause sloosh said it? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 14 2012 04:56 randombum wrote: Austin, You asked me earlier why I liked you for town. Keep in mind that its only a mild read. It's because I liked how you responded with yamato77 in the other thread. What's up with that objection? a joke cause sloosh said it? Past games have had phoenix wright as a role, and he gets a one-shot objection to any statement made in thread. iirc, usually the mods answer the objection in-thread, by posting whether the objected-to statement is true or false. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
The above statement was true. None of those three players are anti-town at the moment. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
slOosh was a strong town read for me, but he was also a bit slow out of the gate, reminding me somewhat of Liquid City. I generally find his posts easy to read and well thought out, and added him specifically to help myself. I want to be able to read and trust what he says, and I figured he would pop up town. Crossfire99 made some townie comments about past games of his, and those struck me as town. I wanted to throw in one player who was less well known/less active, because if I could hit a townie person in that group it means that we hopefully don't mislynch them ever and it means one less ? towards the end of the game. Went with 3 players because the more I add, the harder it is to draw any kind of conclusion from the check (1 anti-town, 2, more?). The double-swap also threw a wrench into the works, because it's POSSIBLE that all anti-town elements on this side of things got swapped to the other side. If that happened, nothing I can do about it right now. 3 felt like a number that I could have correct reads on, and takes enough people off the table (and specifically some people that I want to hear from off the table) that I think we can work together and get a solid lynch today. | ||
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