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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 07:29 GMT
#281
Lol, you want to lynch the guy I brought over here because he's so towny, with your reason being he's from igrokland?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 07:29 GMT
#282
Question for you, I think you were actively watching as greymist did those posts and i want to ask the following. Did it originally only do keir + austin swap and foolishness was added in during the edit?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 07:34 GMT
#283
Yes.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 07:38 GMT
#284
Let me read the other side with him in mind and see where I end up. If I feel that he's townie too then obviously I won't lynch him solely because he's from the other side.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 08:06 GMT
#285
Well done reading, and I like him as townie too. That means I have no idea who to lynch and I don't like that because that lynch would have given us information. I think I'll just wait and see what the others have to say during their time period since it feels like we are back at square 1. If I get it right the day ends in 12 hours from now so I should be back and have a few hours to read up + decide before then.

It does end in about 12 hours right?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 08:09 GMT
#286
Ehhhh, more like 16/17 if I'm not mistaken. The game started early compared to the day ending.
Yeah I don't like it much either, my swap was meant to spark discussion in both worlds but I obviously did not see the Foolishness thing coming.

We got some information out of it though and maybe austin will notice something that we haven't yet.

Anyway, be back in a bit.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 08:14 GMT
#287
16 is right. Time to sleep then.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 13 2012 11:47 GMT
#288
Clarity you're a dumbass, you should have asked before you did that.

Foolishness and austinmcc are linked (by me). to each other, if one swaps worlds the other does too. I had to pick the targets very early and at the time I thought austin was my best guess for scum in the other world, the point being that if foolishness somehow left the world at least we'd get another scummy person into this world.

I haven't read anything more recent on austin, but apparently you have a townread on him. So my initial plan sounds less useful now, assuming you're not just being dumb.

Computer says mafia
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 11:52 GMT
#289
I should have asked if anyone had made any links between people in seperate worlds? Not sure how I would have gone about doing that. Why did/do you have a scumread on austin?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 13 2012 11:59 GMT
#290
You should have asked "I wanna switch austinmcc and keirathi, you guys ok with that?".

Anyway, I had to pick my target 5 pages into the other thread or so, so I rolled with austin who at the time had just made 2-3 very bland posts. I didn't and still don't have a particular scum read on him. I just didn't feel anything he had done was overly towny.
Computer says mafia
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 12:04 GMT
#291
Maybe. No one was around and didn't wanna leave it until later.
I'll be back in a couple of hours.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 13 2012 12:09 GMT
#292
Well whatever happened happened. The good news is you cannot have known this would save foolishness, which makes it unlikely you're his scumbuddy, if he turns up scum, that is. Which I think is not unlikely.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2012 13:34 GMT
#293
Foolishness never made that 'long' post he promised us did he?

Clarity, you've been a very naughty boy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2012 14:02 GMT
#294
@Blazing,

Remember there'd only be one scum to resist a Foolishness lynch if he was actually scum. Crossfire just as an example.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2012 14:18 GMT
#295
@Mementoss,

No not particularly solid at all. Time seems to have gotten away... I don't really wanna lynch into slOosh/randombum, Kenpachi/Palmar are ???, Dieno is Dieno and I've not read how austin's played in your game yet.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2012 14:26 GMT
#296
@Mementoss/other world

Thoughts on austin?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 13 2012 14:36 GMT
#297
Well, hello there.

Palmar, can I ask not for names but whether there are other linked pairs, or at least the possibility for other/different linked pairs in the future?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 13 2012 14:51 GMT
#298
I guess let's get caught up...

@randombum
On December 13 2012 17:06 randombum wrote:
Well done reading, and I like him as townie too.

Could you explain why? You momentarily suggested lynching me because I was from the other thread, which I found horrible reasoning, but then read me and concluded I was townie. Without any specifics. Why do you read me as townie (not that you shouldn't)?


Not @sloosh

I like sloosh's filter the most out of people on this side of things. He was reading both threads, was looking at why people were voting foolishness, and brought the ##worship up at a random time.


Don't understand dionosore's reasoning on Foolishness at all. Votes because Foolishness talked about swaps, then said he didn't want to waste time talking about swaps an hour and twenty minutes later. Talking about swaps was bound to happen, but, to some extent, people like sandroba are right that we needed to stop. Given the order of Foolishness's comments, swap talk with a later comment that we need to stop swap talk (especially for you guys and now us guys in the lynch world), I don't see the contradictions that Dienosore wants to find.

Don't love his secondary explanation either:
On December 13 2012 12:37 Dienosore wrote:
That is one of the reasons, yes. I've also factored in Marv's meta read on him and how Fool handled it. Also, he hasn't really denied being scum, just sort of has been deflecting the issue by arguing with folks.

Also, my maps show that Fool has absolutely no support from anyone on either world. In fact, he even has some negative vibes from Sandro and Yomato, both of whom I consider to be playing fairly towny at this point.


Now that I've tilted my hand, it's your turn to explain your reason for voting for him.

First sentence vague imo. Second sentence finds Foolishness scummy because he hasn't explicitly DENIED being scum. Not exactly what I want to hang my hat on. Maps show Foolishness having "no support" from anyone in either world, without an explanation of why that makes him scummy -- scum is going to let 25% of their team go down D1 without ANYONE putting up a fight at all? And he gets town vibes from yamato, who is a crazy person.

Dienosore, thoughts on clarity's swap? Read on Keirathi? Do you still find yamato townie?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 13 2012 15:03 GMT
#299
Palmar reads oddly invested to me at parts of this day, although hopefully that's a good thing.

On December 13 2012 01:26 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.


I think Foolishness is a really good player.

While I am completely aware that marv hasn't exactly been a shining beacon of green, he's not done anything I can see that warrants Foolishness calling him scum at that point.

So, Foolishness is trolling, scum, or seeing something I don't see. I'm waiting for him to come back and actually give me a legitimate reason to consider his early call that marv is scum. If he doesn't have a solid reason for it, I'm inclined to think he's scum, as I don't often see Foolishness troll, although he's notoriously lazy on day one.
Palmar could respond that Foolishness is mafia, shuddup and sheep the vote. Could give some crappy reason.

Instead, he actually types out a full response as to what he thinks Foolishness might be doing, and why Foolishness might be scum given what he's doing.

I'm not used to seeing complete thoughts like this from Palmar to random questions. Palmar also heavily telegraphed how Foolishness's response would shape his read, whether honest or not, which feels a bit strange though. If Palmar's read is truly going to be influenced by Foolishness's response, then he wouldn't go telling Foolishness how to respond. I dunno, when I first read this post I liked it a lot, found it very townie, but the more I think about it the more it feels a bit out of character - fully formed response to a question, giving out a thought process that's invalid once you put it into thread.

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 13 2012 15:19 GMT
#300
For a moment I'm pausing and working, but I hadn't been active here and I'd like thread to have my main thoughts on folks on this side of things.
Fe fi fo fum.
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