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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 16 2012 14:30 GMT
#581
Hey guys, I haven't been lurking... I just haven't gotten around to reading up until now. After reading I see a lot of people saying weird shit that I couldn't really come into this game expecting to hear, but that is basically just written off as different cultural background or different lifestyles. I really can't make a judgement based on that. So, I will go by the very standard... Goal of the game. Generally speaking, the mafia or in this case, the church will want to be on everyone's good side... Thus jumping from band wagon to band wagon to please the crowd with his/her vote. For this reason, I shall vote for the king of band wagon hopping:

##vote hapahauli

If you have any questions about me or anything game related to discuss with me concerning my character, please don't hesitate to ask.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#582
On December 16 2012 20:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 20:45 JieXian wrote:
On December 16 2012 20:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
frustrating, uncooperative, etc


Your inference is based on the assumption/information that he's townie


lol you should have just called it a scum slip if that's what you're trying to imply

my read on zentor is still null.


hahaha :D just probing man but now that you've mentioned it

I can imagine the mafia QT to be you asking him to post something and being all frustrated because he's so uncooperative

Reading through your filter I can see NOT ONE single post of you asking him to "participate". I see one from drazak. All you did was say you had a null vote and attack me and kush who were directing attention towards him.


and hapa, I've changed my mind about providing reads on those 3 people and I think I shouldn't post read on them for now.

For now the burning question is: What the hell are you contradicting yourself that badly?

I made the most controversial post here and instantly got 4-5 votes on me. You yourself thought my reads were terrible

I still get how more than 3 people are finding this so scummy

On December 15 2012 14:47 JieXian wrote:
Hi and sorry I'm late, I'm at +8GMT and I didn't wake up as early as DarthPunk

At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction.

Later I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot

Show nested quote +
Djo why did you vote for Mr Zentor


But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another

##Vote MrZentor


"At first -> later -> BUT ABOVE ALL "

Shows my train of thought as I was considering different things but made my final decision on the thing that is standing out the most.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 16 2012 14:55 GMT
#583
eywa I know you are doing something great for BW but I'd like you to post more and play the game more since you're already in it
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 15:02:11
December 16 2012 14:57 GMT
#584
On December 16 2012 23:55 JieXian wrote:
eywa I know you are doing something great for BW but I'd like you to post more and play the game more since you're already in it

I fully intend on posting ;; I was out yesterday, no chance to post or read. Also, I've already pretty much done everything I am going to do for BW, just a couple details left to sort out, but that definitely won't be consuming my time.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 16 2012 16:22 GMT
#585
Hey guys, shenanigans here being sorted out. I'm down for a Thrawn lynch, he's a sheeping scummy dude right meow.

Thrawn is an Opportunist

On December 15 2012 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok

##Vote Djodref

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 10:26 Djodref wrote:
Other than that, I would like everybody to give a little hindsight of their game experience, especially newbies, if there are some.



what kind of information are you looking for?


Sheep on Djodref vote, hardcore. No explanation, just does it. Also, the question he asks is self-explanatory.

On December 15 2012 12:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't th9nk hapa's case was super good but dp's reaction to it seems insane


Slightly discredits Hapa's case, and takes the opportunity to acknowledge that DP looks scummy after an OMGUS vote (duh). He then unvotes to keep his options open. When Hapa makes his more fortified case, he suddenly believes it's some god-given scumhunting then votes for DP.

Wait, What's this?


On December 15 2012 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
dp I don't think it's fair to accuse djo based on setup speculation meta because of 2 reasons

1. start of the game and everyone is lurking
2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics



Didn't Thrawn VOTE for Djo based on this exact thing? He was being obsessed with blue roles / witchhunter and Thrawn sheeped the vote, supposedly because of this. Now he thinks it's not fair to accuse him?

On December 16 2012 10:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
oh sniped on the random lurker vote lol, sounds fun

##unvote
##Vote: Mr Cheesecake


pie is better
and all you mo-fos need to start posting


Sheeps onto lurker vote opportunity. Underlined = scummiest shit ever townies like cheesecake over pie.

On December 16 2012 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok here's what I probably mean about kush...

you mention his terrible ideas... yes the things he's said he'll do this game have been crazy, but that's his meta right? this game however, it seems like they are intentionally dumb. scum kush says crazier things than town kush.

he said he's not going to lynch me no matter what... is that a joke? an actual plan? the problem is I couldn't really tell.... it's so different from town oriented thinking I don't know what to make of it. the only reason I have to suspect that town kush could possibly have said that is because he's lynched me over and over for the same reasons and I keep flipping town.


PROBABLY mean? What? How do you probably mean something...? Town mean things genuinely, scum try to emulate they are meaning something. The rest of this post is garbage--he comes to no read on Kush at all, just flip-flops between the possibility of town kush not wanting to lynch him and the alternative scum motivation.


Above all, Thrawn doesn't seem to care who is lynched:

On December 15 2012 11:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
this conversation between the few of us is getting very tiresome

i'll lynch lurkers

LURKERS

i will happily lynch you


Okay so he wants to lynch a lurker. By all means, a viable strategy considering the circumstance. But he also wants to lynch Djo, JX, DP... I'm confused. I don't see strong scum reads from him other than on JX due to obvious scumslips. He is sheeping a ton and doesn't seem too caring of who he wants to get lynched.

Just look at this flip-floppiness between lurker lynching and lynching his top scumread.

On December 16 2012 20:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
I suggest all town people be around during the lynch if (when?) we decide to lynch a rando lurker

Maybe we could lynch a lurker! That sounds like a good idea!

On December 16 2012 20:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
i still really really like it

But I still really really like a JX lynch!

On December 16 2012 20:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
but who knows, perhaps some lurker will die instead

But maybe we could lynch a lurker! I'm all for that!

Why is Thrawn so indecisive?

On December 16 2012 14:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote:
I was out the whole day man relax. You guys didn't understand my post.

I found what Dp and hapa was saying to be weird BUT I changed my mind as I kept on reading the thread (notice how those 2 points were quite early on)


no this is a lie

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 14:47 JieXian wrote:
Hi and sorry I'm late, I'm at +8GMT and I didn't wake up as early as DarthPunk

At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction. but i think he's town because x

Later I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot. but now i think he's town because x

Djo why did you vote for Mr Zentor


But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another

##Vote MrZentor


the red parts are what I just now added to the 2nd post that would make the 1st post true. I bolded "but above all" because that implies you still hold your suspicions about hapa/dp.

J scum-slipped hard, he lied about the scumslip, he's a lurker... and he's scum


He states JX is scum. THEN WHY IS HE KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN LIKE THIS? Town Thrawn would want to push this JX lynch into the ground, not be ready to jump off the wagon at the last minute to lynch a lurker.

Thrawn's general posting in context of the thread seems very opportunistic. The way he jumps on JX's vote post of Mr.Z is just that, scum trying to find easy things to tackle people on. I have no clue, if town, why he's willing to lynch a lurker right now if he's set on JX being scum.


##Vote: Thrawn
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 16 2012 16:30 GMT
#586
On December 17 2012 01:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hey guys, shenanigans here being sorted out. I'm down for a Thrawn lynch, he's a sheeping scummy dude right meow.

Thrawn is an Opportunist

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok

##Vote Djodref

On December 15 2012 10:26 Djodref wrote:
Other than that, I would like everybody to give a little hindsight of their game experience, especially newbies, if there are some.



what kind of information are you looking for?


Sheep on Djodref vote, hardcore. No explanation, just does it. Also, the question he asks is self-explanatory.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't th9nk hapa's case was super good but dp's reaction to it seems insane


Slightly discredits Hapa's case, and takes the opportunity to acknowledge that DP looks scummy after an OMGUS vote (duh). He then unvotes to keep his options open. When Hapa makes his more fortified case, he suddenly believes it's some god-given scumhunting then votes for DP.

Wait, What's this?


Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
dp I don't think it's fair to accuse djo based on setup speculation meta because of 2 reasons

1. start of the game and everyone is lurking
2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics



Didn't Thrawn VOTE for Djo based on this exact thing? He was being obsessed with blue roles / witchhunter and Thrawn sheeped the vote, supposedly because of this. Now he thinks it's not fair to accuse him?

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 10:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
oh sniped on the random lurker vote lol, sounds fun

##unvote
##Vote: Mr Cheesecake


pie is better
and all you mo-fos need to start posting


Sheeps onto lurker vote opportunity. Underlined = scummiest shit ever townies like cheesecake over pie.

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok here's what I probably mean about kush...

you mention his terrible ideas... yes the things he's said he'll do this game have been crazy, but that's his meta right? this game however, it seems like they are intentionally dumb. scum kush says crazier things than town kush.

he said he's not going to lynch me no matter what... is that a joke? an actual plan? the problem is I couldn't really tell.... it's so different from town oriented thinking I don't know what to make of it. the only reason I have to suspect that town kush could possibly have said that is because he's lynched me over and over for the same reasons and I keep flipping town.


PROBABLY mean? What? How do you probably mean something...? Town mean things genuinely, scum try to emulate they are meaning something. The rest of this post is garbage--he comes to no read on Kush at all, just flip-flops between the possibility of town kush not wanting to lynch him and the alternative scum motivation.


Above all, Thrawn doesn't seem to care who is lynched:

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
this conversation between the few of us is getting very tiresome

i'll lynch lurkers

LURKERS

i will happily lynch you


Okay so he wants to lynch a lurker. By all means, a viable strategy considering the circumstance. But he also wants to lynch Djo, JX, DP... I'm confused. I don't see strong scum reads from him other than on JX due to obvious scumslips. He is sheeping a ton and doesn't seem too caring of who he wants to get lynched.

Just look at this flip-floppiness between lurker lynching and lynching his top scumread.

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 20:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
I suggest all town people be around during the lynch if (when?) we decide to lynch a rando lurker

Maybe we could lynch a lurker! That sounds like a good idea!

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 20:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
i still really really like it

But I still really really like a JX lynch!

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 20:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
but who knows, perhaps some lurker will die instead

But maybe we could lynch a lurker! I'm all for that!

Why is Thrawn so indecisive?

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
On December 16 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote:
I was out the whole day man relax. You guys didn't understand my post.

I found what Dp and hapa was saying to be weird BUT I changed my mind as I kept on reading the thread (notice how those 2 points were quite early on)


no this is a lie

On December 15 2012 14:47 JieXian wrote:
Hi and sorry I'm late, I'm at +8GMT and I didn't wake up as early as DarthPunk

At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction. but i think he's town because x

Later I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot. but now i think he's town because x

Djo why did you vote for Mr Zentor


But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another

##Vote MrZentor


the red parts are what I just now added to the 2nd post that would make the 1st post true. I bolded "but above all" because that implies you still hold your suspicions about hapa/dp.

J scum-slipped hard, he lied about the scumslip, he's a lurker... and he's scum


He states JX is scum. THEN WHY IS HE KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN LIKE THIS? Town Thrawn would want to push this JX lynch into the ground, not be ready to jump off the wagon at the last minute to lynch a lurker.

Thrawn's general posting in context of the thread seems very opportunistic. The way he jumps on JX's vote post of Mr.Z is just that, scum trying to find easy things to tackle people on. I have no clue, if town, why he's willing to lynch a lurker right now if he's set on JX being scum.


##Vote: Thrawn

While you make a decent case against Thrawn, I still think that there is more of a case against hapahauli, thus I will not change my vote.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 16 2012 16:34 GMT
#587
Care to elaborate?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 16 2012 16:34 GMT
#588
Can I get me a votecount?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 16 2012 16:35 GMT
#589
can we stfu about mrz and jx? I think they are both bad lynches.
I see a lot of effort from both of them to be involved in this game.
*
We need to start focusing on who we are going to lynch, since im pretty sure we have to lynch in 4.5 hours.
There are actually more lurkers than I would there would be yesterday.. this is because people either haven't kept their promise to be active or have started posting minimally to avoid a modkill.
THREESR: I think he's gonna get replaced, so we should ignore him for now.
As I see it, these are the acceptable options:
DOYOUHAS: This guy's posts are decently long, but I didn't even know he existed until I looked at the player list. He is invisible. He is a lurker who is putting some effort into not looking like a lurker.
MORBIDUS: classic lurker
Bad options:
ENYA: fuuu i thought he was gonna get replaced but he's talking for now. Not the best choice IMO because he looks ready to contribute now.
CHEESECAKE: Also looks ready to start contributing more.

NOTE: If threesr comes back in the thread to avoid a modkill then he goes on the lynch list.


OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 16 2012 16:36 GMT
#590
##vote morbidus
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 16 2012 16:42 GMT
#591
On December 17 2012 01:35 kushm4sta wrote:
can we stfu about mrz and jx? I think they are both bad lynches.
I see a lot of effort from both of them to be involved in this game.
*
We need to start focusing on who we are going to lynch, since im pretty sure we have to lynch in 4.5 hours.
There are actually more lurkers than I would there would be yesterday.. this is because people either haven't kept their promise to be active or have started posting minimally to avoid a modkill.
THREESR: I think he's gonna get replaced, so we should ignore him for now.
As I see it, these are the acceptable options:
DOYOUHAS: This guy's posts are decently long, but I didn't even know he existed until I looked at the player list. He is invisible. He is a lurker who is putting some effort into not looking like a lurker.
MORBIDUS: classic lurker
Bad options:
ENYA: fuuu i thought he was gonna get replaced but he's talking for now. Not the best choice IMO because he looks ready to contribute now.
CHEESECAKE: Also looks ready to start contributing more.

NOTE: If threesr comes back in the thread to avoid a modkill then he goes on the lynch list.



If we go by your logic, the mafia wins by simply being the most active player in the game... Which is not the way to go.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 16 2012 16:44 GMT
#592
On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 16 2012 16:51 GMT
#593
On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea.

That is a scumhunting strategy. He is pressuring people.
For that reason you want to lynch the strongest town in this game?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 16 2012 16:53 GMT
#594
On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea.


Why don't you make a case, then, if it's scummy behavior?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 16 2012 16:57 GMT
#595
Addendum to viable lynch candidates: add ewya as a good lurker lynch.
I still think morbidus is the best though
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 16 2012 17:00 GMT
#596
On December 17 2012 01:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea.


Why don't you make a case, then, if it's scummy behavior?

Because people who play are meant to read the thread, I made the point of "why", if you read you'll understand the justification. Whether or not you agree is up to you.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 16 2012 17:01 GMT
#597
On December 17 2012 01:57 kushm4sta wrote:
Addendum to viable lynch candidates: add ewya as a good lurker lynch.
I still think morbidus is the best though

Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 16 2012 17:03 GMT
#598
On December 17 2012 02:00 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 01:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea.


Why don't you make a case, then, if it's scummy behavior?

Because people who play are meant to read the thread, I made the point of "why", if you read you'll understand the justification. Whether or not you agree is up to you.


Town want to convince others that their top scumread is actually scum. Presenting a case with justification does that. Parking your vote on Hapa and telling people to go searching on their own isn't going to convince people.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 16 2012 17:03 GMT
#599
Oops... Messed up that last post (but can't edit) anyhow, the game isn't about finding who is the most active, that's easy to do and can be done by running a light scan of the post history, the game is about finding guilty vs innocent. I don't give favoritism based on activity... Seems like something that someone would do to chop off some town votes because they are "easy targets".
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 16 2012 17:04 GMT
#600
On December 17 2012 02:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 02:00 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea.


Why don't you make a case, then, if it's scummy behavior?

Because people who play are meant to read the thread, I made the point of "why", if you read you'll understand the justification. Whether or not you agree is up to you.


Town want to convince others that their top scumread is actually scum. Presenting a case with justification does that. Parking your vote on Hapa and telling people to go searching on their own isn't going to convince people.

One read through is enough. I thought that by definition, in order to participate, you'd have to be willing to read the thread. By saying you're not doing so, you just discredit your entire argument about thrawn even though some aspects may be valid.
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