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On December 15 2012 13:40 Djodref wrote: I know your position on me, I was trying to get you talk about other players but it looks like I've been sniped. No. You don't. Because I don't. | ||
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On December 15 2012 13:51 Djodref wrote: EBWOP: in this case your position is "my vote is on you until you scumhunt" and then I unvoted you. at the moment I have no idea. But I am not sure you are scum anymore. | ||
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On December 15 2012 12:41 Hapahauli wrote: Why DP is Scum Strange Tunnel on Djo Two things to note about the red/bolded passage: 1) DP does everything short of sucking my dick here. He buddies me just about as hard as you can in this passage. For example, I made no claims that a 10-3 setup is "super town favored." Nor is it actually "super town favored." Yet he goes and exhalts my idea as "really really good." 2) One of DP's main reasons for suspecting Djo at this point is that Djo disagrees with my assessment on the 10-3 setup thing. Part of the implication here is that DP agrees thtaThis is odd, considering his next post. Despite agreeing with my "10-3 setup" stuff earlier, DP all of a sudden is assuming that Djodref is correct in his setup theory without any clarification from the mod in the mean time. This doesn't make sense at all. How could you agree with my comments and speculation, then go and post something like this? Very simply, DP lost track of the reasons he was tunneling Djo. His tunneling doesn't have a townie thought-process behind it - he's just trying to heap as much suspicion on Djo as he can. This is pretty clear by his next post on the subject: This sounds so desperate to me. It's very clear by now that the argument between me and Djo is simply a misunderstanding of the OP, yet DP twists the hell out of his words and flips a shit. Other Stuff: Firstly, DP's first post: The only purpose of this post is to stifle discussion. There's zero reason you should be so against policy talk before it even starts. Secondly, when I vote him - mind you I'm the ONLY person to be suspicious of him so far - he whines about it: The whining is completely disproportionate to the suspicion put on him. In addition, DP doesn't hate playing town. Fact. To this On December 15 2012 13:10 Hapahauli wrote: Hmm IRC chat seems to corroborate that you're in a bad mood. I can also chalk up most of my case to you being rather angry as well. ##Unvote With the only explanation being I was angry. I don't think hapa's points are overturned with my mood. I think they were misinterpretations/poor but I fail to see how they are all null when taken with me being in an angry mood. They were certainly overturned by my defence. But hapa doesn't;t mention that at all when unvoting. The only thing hapa mentions is believing I am, in fact, angry. | ||
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Yeah. I saw that too. But it seems to easy. | ||
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I would be ok with policy lynching him if nothing else turns up. But I have no idea if he is scum or not. | ||
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On December 15 2012 14:54 thrawn2112 wrote: lol it looks pretty similar to kush's slip in that newbie.. he called everyone in the thread a townie except for zentor. on top of that zentor is somehow his top scumread? Yeah I know. It is something to keep in mind certainly. @JieXian is the reason you are voting MrZ because he is useless? or is there something we may have missed? Do you have town reads on hapa + Djo + myself? What makes a useless player more likely to be scum than town? | ||
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Yeah. It was in response to your post at the top of the page. | ||
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##Vote: JieXian | ||
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On December 15 2012 15:42 thrawn2112 wrote: how long will we be the only people in the thread? For as long as you keep impersonating me in the secret game.  | ||
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On December 15 2012 15:43 Hapahauli wrote: Idunno. On the bright side, it does feel a lot like a townie love-boat stop that. | ||
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No I stopped playing after I voted marv off the island. So it wasn't you? | ||
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IE. anyone that isn't: Thrawn DP Hapa DJo | ||
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On December 15 2012 16:10 Hapahauli wrote: Kinda disconcerting to see kush normal crazy self. Draz also showed up bigtime with his new "aggressive" playstle... You saying they aren't lurking? | ||
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Oh dear. I am bad with that. I just want something to happen... | ||
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Town wishes to nullify that information advantage as fast as possible. One of the most effective ways of doing that is by being proactive and sharing town reads. I will be free and open with my town reads. I will be electing bad townies however. If I had a town read on HAPA he would never be elected for example. | ||
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On December 15 2012 17:54 DoYouHas wrote: You are being dumb. The mafia know who the townies are, they do not know who will be receiving votes. Townreads give information to scum that they didn't have, period. Knowing who townies are and knowing who townies think are townie are 2 very separate things. This isn't about playing in fear of the witch hunter, this is about playing smart. Giving mafia information is not smart. This is the second time you have made this kind of statement. It is as if you are treating the mafia kp and the witchhunter as the same thing. You are addressing the mafia kp, when the witch hunter is the issue. So what if you manage to elect bad townies if the mafia just shoot the good townies and silver shoot the bad ones. The point is this, we can maximize the possibility that the witch hunter misses by denying scum information that we really don't need to share anyways. Maybe we are thinking about different examples of 'free and open with town reads'. I'm thinking of lists of townies being posted like Xatalos did in paranoia, which was bad. I am not worried about the witch hunter at all. It's just a vig with drawbacks. I am more worried about regular night kills offing a good player and a blue action at the same time. In fact I want to make it as unpleasent as possible for scum because they KNOW that if they off a good player a blue action will resolve. The other thing is blues are incredibly resilient in this game. And blue sniping is less strong. As the roles will just appear the next night. So. If we elect bad townies to the blue roles. The mafia vig can never hit a good player that will threaten them with regular scum hunting. Every time they DO hit a good player with regular KP 2 or more night actions are resolving that could potentially out them. Regular KP will NEVER hit a blue because they will be offing dangerous players. The weaker players will have night actions in order to make THEM more of a threat than they would otherwise be. Also it does not prevent us from sharing our super strong town reads. Which I take issue with as information dispersal is one of the keys to town victories. I fail to see how that is not the best course of action in regards to the witchcraft elections. | ||
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On December 16 2012 01:23 kushm4sta wrote: sob story of why I've been a lurking piece of shit so far:+ Show Spoiler + thurs night into Friday I had to do an allnighter. right after I had to go to work from 1pm to 10p and it was fucking busy because some bitch died. Now I have to work today 8 to 8. Also this upcoming week I have 4 finals. QQ over * Dear dp, Can you spam less please? Love, kush * My biggest scumread so far is djodref. I'm not going to make a big case because it's mostly a feel read at this point honestly. what's really going on in this post is he is making it clear that the reason he brought up the witchcraft votes in the first place was because he thought it was something town would do, and he brought it up not because he cared but because he thought it would make him look town. The other part of my suspicion is how he reacted under pressure. in the last game I played with him he was town. There was a similar early bandwagon and he seemed like he didn't really give a shit. This game he responded to the bandwagon very attentively. Making lists and responding to everyone. His vote on hapa looked like a panic vote. * Hapa... I am concerned with this guy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he has a really good feel for dps meta and has caught scum dp many times. But I found his case on dp really underwhelming and reaching. And then he drops the tunnel because of something he read irc...really? * this game is full of lurkers, but I think most of them are going to get modkilled or replaced. I will vote for a lurker who is avoiding modkill, and right now this includes drazak and threesr. I don't think I am spamming kush. If clarity was in this game I would probably be called out for lurking. Also you are wrong. Hapa has never caught me as scum. and the player with a solid grasp of reading me is Kei. But Hapa's case was trash in comparison to his usual efforts as town. In that we share some concern it seems. | ||
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##unvote ##vote: Mr Cheesecake. | ||
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