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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
December 27 2012 07:33 GMT
#3001
Let's try to keep it en english, ladies and gents.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 07:33 GMT
#3002
djo, chai obliyéd mi lepin avan... poutin......
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 07:34 GMT
#3003
On December 27 2012 16:33 Blazinghand wrote:
Let's try to keep it en english, ladies and gents.


ok didn't see that earlier
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 27 2012 07:38 GMT
#3004
Oh, and for the sake of completeness, there is no possible way (short of a town-Djo fucking things up royally) that Djo flips town.Why?
1) CC would have won the election if Djo was town.
2) The above has to be true - there is no combination of two other scumteam members that could account for Djo getting framed. "Possibilities" are explored below:

Scumteams not involving Mr.CC
Any scumteam not involving Mr.CC means that Mr.CC is telling the truth about not winning (after all, he would have no reason to lie as town). Therefore, no scumteams not involving Mr.CC make sense.

Mr.CC/Hapa scumteam - Impossible
Impossible. Ghost would be town here, and he would have no reason to lie about winning the elections. I (hapa) cannot be scum in this setup, since no one else voted for Ghost yesterday.

Mr.CC/Kush - Impossible
In this setup, myself and ghost are town. Ghost has no reason to lie about winning the elections, therefore Djo could not have voted for Mr.CC

Mr.CC/JX - Impossible
Same reasons as CC/Kush

Mr.CC/Ghost - Impossible
Impossible, since I am town in this setup again. I would have no reason to lie about my green check on Ghost.



Also by similar logic, I am confirmed town. Wheeeee!

Since Djo is guaranteed to flip scum (as discussed above), one of ghost and I have to be town.

We cannot both be scum, since Djo is scum (and there's only 1 more scum)
Ghost cannot individually be scum, since I DT checked him (I have no reason to lie about this as town).
Hapa cannot be individually scum, since Ghost won the elections and no one else voted him (again, ghost has no reason to lie as town)

a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 27 2012 07:40 GMT
#3005
On December 27 2012 16:29 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 15:35 Hapahauli wrote:
Question. Do you believe ghost is confirmed town?


yes

but that won't confirm your alignment at all because if scum won the elections, he could have claimed the DT check.


If Ghost is confirmed town, I am confirmed town as well, due to the analysis below:
Also by similar logic, I am confirmed town. Wheeeee!

Since Djo is guaranteed to flip scum (as discussed above), one of ghost and I have to be town.

We cannot both be scum, since Djo is scum (and there's only 1 more scum)
Ghost cannot individually be scum, since I DT checked him (I have no reason to lie about this as town).
Hapa cannot be individually scum, since Ghost won the elections and no one else voted him (again, ghost has no reason to lie as town)



a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 27 2012 07:53 GMT
#3006
Oh, and regarding the possibility of "rogue townies" voting for Ghost, that's implausible. Unless you voted for ghost (and it doesn't sound like you did), every other player here agreed to my plan. Unless anyone would like to claim otherwise, there were no rogue players, and I'm confirmed town.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 09:05 GMT
#3007
On December 27 2012 16:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh, and regarding the possibility of "rogue townies" voting for Ghost, that's implausible. Unless you voted for ghost (and it doesn't sound like you did), every other player here agreed to my plan. Unless anyone would like to claim otherwise, there were no rogue players, and I'm confirmed town.


Lol you do know that it's not in kush's advantage to publicly claim it because it'll damage the credibility of djo's read and his safety, since kush had a scum read on DJo.

Furthermore kush won't have the power to convince Djo to not go along with the plan, because djo was expecting to be a confirmed townie , and ghost doesn't seem to be around at all.

There are hints of his suspicion about you:

On December 24 2012 11:36 kushm4sta wrote:
This witchcraft manipulation thing: Can you summarize your proposal so I can just read it and understand wtf you are saying? Because right now it doesn't make sense to me at all.

Cheesecake/djo does not feel right. Cheesecake's hard defense of djo definitely has scum motivation, but it's not a scum-like thing to do.

This shit with you jking me and preventing a NK. It rubs me the wrong way.
-If I were scum hands down I would kill ghost. Confirmed town at this stage of the game is huge.
-You are wrong about ghost flipping green confirms you green. Hypothetically if you are red and ghost is green, what else would you do? You wouldn't call him red if he's green.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 09:06 GMT
#3008
And hapa you sure did call in the blazing cops really quick on my little chat =(
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 09:08 GMT
#3009
On December 27 2012 16:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 16:29 JieXian wrote:
On December 27 2012 15:35 Hapahauli wrote:
Question. Do you believe ghost is confirmed town?


yes

but that won't confirm your alignment at all because if scum won the elections, he could have claimed the DT check.


If Ghost is confirmed town, I am confirmed town as well, due to the analysis below:
Show nested quote +
Also by similar logic, I am confirmed town. Wheeeee!

Since Djo is guaranteed to flip scum (as discussed above), one of ghost and I have to be town.

We cannot both be scum, since Djo is scum (and there's only 1 more scum)
Ghost cannot individually be scum, since I DT checked him (I have no reason to lie about this as town).
Hapa cannot be individually scum, since Ghost won the elections and no one else voted him (again, ghost has no reason to lie as town)





Djo is guaranteed to flip scum only if there wasn't any rogue townies voting for ghost.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 09:34 GMT
#3010
On December 27 2012 16:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh, and regarding the possibility of "rogue townies" voting for Ghost, that's implausible. Unless you voted for ghost (and it doesn't sound like you did), every other player here agreed to my plan. Unless anyone would like to claim otherwise, there were no rogue players, and I'm confirmed town.


oh wait then again kush will be confirmed townie if he claims and everyone believed him.
But then he may not get to lynch djo
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 14:27 GMT
#3011
Ghost might want to random between vetting, checking one of us or JKing someone.

Don't bother RBing djo
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 27 2012 17:45 GMT
#3012
On December 27 2012 18:05 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 16:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh, and regarding the possibility of "rogue townies" voting for Ghost, that's implausible. Unless you voted for ghost (and it doesn't sound like you did), every other player here agreed to my plan. Unless anyone would like to claim otherwise, there were no rogue players, and I'm confirmed town.


Lol you do know that it's not in kush's advantage to publicly claim it because it'll damage the credibility of djo's read and his safety, since kush had a scum read on DJo.

Furthermore kush won't have the power to convince Djo to not go along with the plan, because djo was expecting to be a confirmed townie , and ghost doesn't seem to be around at all.

There are hints of his suspicion about you:

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 11:36 kushm4sta wrote:
This witchcraft manipulation thing: Can you summarize your proposal so I can just read it and understand wtf you are saying? Because right now it doesn't make sense to me at all.

Cheesecake/djo does not feel right. Cheesecake's hard defense of djo definitely has scum motivation, but it's not a scum-like thing to do.

This shit with you jking me and preventing a NK. It rubs me the wrong way.
-If I were scum hands down I would kill ghost. Confirmed town at this stage of the game is huge.
-You are wrong about ghost flipping green confirms you green. Hypothetically if you are red and ghost is green, what else would you do? You wouldn't call him red if he's green.


What the hell are you talking about? Kush would claim if he went against my plan. He didn't do so, and I'm town.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 27 2012 17:50 GMT
#3013
On December 27 2012 18:06 JieXian wrote:
And hapa you sure did call in the blazing cops really quick on my little chat =(


Why the fuck do I care if you're speaking french?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 18:04 GMT
#3014
On December 28 2012 02:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 18:05 JieXian wrote:
On December 27 2012 16:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh, and regarding the possibility of "rogue townies" voting for Ghost, that's implausible. Unless you voted for ghost (and it doesn't sound like you did), every other player here agreed to my plan. Unless anyone would like to claim otherwise, there were no rogue players, and I'm confirmed town.


Lol you do know that it's not in kush's advantage to publicly claim it because it'll damage the credibility of djo's read and his safety, since kush had a scum read on DJo.

Furthermore kush won't have the power to convince Djo to not go along with the plan, because djo was expecting to be a confirmed townie , and ghost doesn't seem to be around at all.

There are hints of his suspicion about you:

On December 24 2012 11:36 kushm4sta wrote:
This witchcraft manipulation thing: Can you summarize your proposal so I can just read it and understand wtf you are saying? Because right now it doesn't make sense to me at all.

Cheesecake/djo does not feel right. Cheesecake's hard defense of djo definitely has scum motivation, but it's not a scum-like thing to do.

This shit with you jking me and preventing a NK. It rubs me the wrong way.
-If I were scum hands down I would kill ghost. Confirmed town at this stage of the game is huge.
-You are wrong about ghost flipping green confirms you green. Hypothetically if you are red and ghost is green, what else would you do? You wouldn't call him red if he's green.


What the hell are you talking about? Kush would claim if he went against my plan. He didn't do so, and I'm town.


you're saying if kush claims you're not town?
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 27 2012 18:07 GMT
#3015
On December 28 2012 03:04 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 02:45 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 27 2012 18:05 JieXian wrote:
On December 27 2012 16:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh, and regarding the possibility of "rogue townies" voting for Ghost, that's implausible. Unless you voted for ghost (and it doesn't sound like you did), every other player here agreed to my plan. Unless anyone would like to claim otherwise, there were no rogue players, and I'm confirmed town.


Lol you do know that it's not in kush's advantage to publicly claim it because it'll damage the credibility of djo's read and his safety, since kush had a scum read on DJo.

Furthermore kush won't have the power to convince Djo to not go along with the plan, because djo was expecting to be a confirmed townie , and ghost doesn't seem to be around at all.

There are hints of his suspicion about you:

On December 24 2012 11:36 kushm4sta wrote:
This witchcraft manipulation thing: Can you summarize your proposal so I can just read it and understand wtf you are saying? Because right now it doesn't make sense to me at all.

Cheesecake/djo does not feel right. Cheesecake's hard defense of djo definitely has scum motivation, but it's not a scum-like thing to do.

This shit with you jking me and preventing a NK. It rubs me the wrong way.
-If I were scum hands down I would kill ghost. Confirmed town at this stage of the game is huge.
-You are wrong about ghost flipping green confirms you green. Hypothetically if you are red and ghost is green, what else would you do? You wouldn't call him red if he's green.


What the hell are you talking about? Kush would claim if he went against my plan. He didn't do so, and I'm town.


you're saying if kush claims you're not town?


If kush claims that he didn't follow my plan, than I'm not confirmed town.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 18:32 GMT
#3016
fine. Kush, I really dont think Djo is scum unless he's pulling off some serious WIFOM play

On December 26 2012 17:06 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 11:11 kushm4sta wrote:
when is night?


Why do you care ?
Waiting to send in your kills ?

Night is going to be in 14hours and I'm also going to be confirmed town at that point ^^
And it really doesn't look like it pleases you


So did you vote for ghost?
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 18:33 GMT
#3017
and was it after or before hapa if you did?
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 27 2012 18:43 GMT
#3018
Oh my god JX. Oh my god.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 27 2012 19:01 GMT
#3019
So how do you explain the fact that ghost won the elections?

It doesn't matter who voted for ghost. What matters is that if Djo actually voted for Mr.CC, Mr.CC would have won. Mr.CC did not win.

Mr. CC can't be lying about his check, because ghost claimed he won (and you think ghost is confirmed town). Unless you think ghost is lying as town, then Djo is scum.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 27 2012 19:14 GMT
#3020
And I repeat: Ghost could not have won the elections if Djo is town. Period.

Unless of course Djo royally fucked things up, but this is not the case:
On December 25 2012 02:28 Djodref wrote:
So, as a reminder, I've sent my PM to Blazinghand the 24th of December at 15:46. I cast my Wichtcraft Vote for Cheese ^^

On December 25 2012 02:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Sent at 15:59 on my end. Ghost promised to sheep me, so he should be complying. Kush and JX should comply, but I doubt they have witchcraft votes D=
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