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Blazinghand
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JieXian
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JieXian
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On December 27 2012 16:33 Blazinghand wrote: Let's try to keep it en english, ladies and gents. ok didn't see that earlier | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
1) CC would have won the election if Djo was town. 2) The above has to be true - there is no combination of two other scumteam members that could account for Djo getting framed. "Possibilities" are explored below: Scumteams not involving Mr.CC Any scumteam not involving Mr.CC means that Mr.CC is telling the truth about not winning (after all, he would have no reason to lie as town). Therefore, no scumteams not involving Mr.CC make sense. Mr.CC/Hapa scumteam - Impossible Impossible. Ghost would be town here, and he would have no reason to lie about winning the elections. I (hapa) cannot be scum in this setup, since no one else voted for Ghost yesterday. Mr.CC/Kush - Impossible In this setup, myself and ghost are town. Ghost has no reason to lie about winning the elections, therefore Djo could not have voted for Mr.CC Mr.CC/JX - Impossible Same reasons as CC/Kush Mr.CC/Ghost - Impossible Impossible, since I am town in this setup again. I would have no reason to lie about my green check on Ghost. Also by similar logic, I am confirmed town. Wheeeee! Since Djo is guaranteed to flip scum (as discussed above), one of ghost and I have to be town. We cannot both be scum, since Djo is scum (and there's only 1 more scum) Ghost cannot individually be scum, since I DT checked him (I have no reason to lie about this as town). Hapa cannot be individually scum, since Ghost won the elections and no one else voted him (again, ghost has no reason to lie as town) | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 27 2012 16:29 JieXian wrote: yes but that won't confirm your alignment at all because if scum won the elections, he could have claimed the DT check. If Ghost is confirmed town, I am confirmed town as well, due to the analysis below: Also by similar logic, I am confirmed town. Wheeeee! Since Djo is guaranteed to flip scum (as discussed above), one of ghost and I have to be town. We cannot both be scum, since Djo is scum (and there's only 1 more scum) Ghost cannot individually be scum, since I DT checked him (I have no reason to lie about this as town). Hapa cannot be individually scum, since Ghost won the elections and no one else voted him (again, ghost has no reason to lie as town) | ||
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Hapahauli
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On December 27 2012 16:53 Hapahauli wrote: Oh, and regarding the possibility of "rogue townies" voting for Ghost, that's implausible. Unless you voted for ghost (and it doesn't sound like you did), every other player here agreed to my plan. Unless anyone would like to claim otherwise, there were no rogue players, and I'm confirmed town. Lol you do know that it's not in kush's advantage to publicly claim it because it'll damage the credibility of djo's read and his safety, since kush had a scum read on DJo. Furthermore kush won't have the power to convince Djo to not go along with the plan, because djo was expecting to be a confirmed townie , and ghost doesn't seem to be around at all. There are hints of his suspicion about you: On December 24 2012 11:36 kushm4sta wrote: This witchcraft manipulation thing: Can you summarize your proposal so I can just read it and understand wtf you are saying? Because right now it doesn't make sense to me at all. Cheesecake/djo does not feel right. Cheesecake's hard defense of djo definitely has scum motivation, but it's not a scum-like thing to do. This shit with you jking me and preventing a NK. It rubs me the wrong way. -If I were scum hands down I would kill ghost. Confirmed town at this stage of the game is huge. -You are wrong about ghost flipping green confirms you green. Hypothetically if you are red and ghost is green, what else would you do? You wouldn't call him red if he's green. | ||
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JieXian
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JieXian
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On December 27 2012 16:40 Hapahauli wrote: If Ghost is confirmed town, I am confirmed town as well, due to the analysis below: Djo is guaranteed to flip scum only if there wasn't any rogue townies voting for ghost. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On December 27 2012 16:53 Hapahauli wrote: Oh, and regarding the possibility of "rogue townies" voting for Ghost, that's implausible. Unless you voted for ghost (and it doesn't sound like you did), every other player here agreed to my plan. Unless anyone would like to claim otherwise, there were no rogue players, and I'm confirmed town. oh wait then again kush will be confirmed townie if he claims and everyone believed him. But then he may not get to lynch djo | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
Don't bother RBing djo | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 27 2012 18:05 JieXian wrote: Lol you do know that it's not in kush's advantage to publicly claim it because it'll damage the credibility of djo's read and his safety, since kush had a scum read on DJo. Furthermore kush won't have the power to convince Djo to not go along with the plan, because djo was expecting to be a confirmed townie , and ghost doesn't seem to be around at all. There are hints of his suspicion about you: What the hell are you talking about? Kush would claim if he went against my plan. He didn't do so, and I'm town. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 27 2012 18:06 JieXian wrote: And hapa you sure did call in the blazing cops really quick on my little chat =( Why the fuck do I care if you're speaking french? | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On December 28 2012 02:45 Hapahauli wrote: What the hell are you talking about? Kush would claim if he went against my plan. He didn't do so, and I'm town. you're saying if kush claims you're not town? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 28 2012 03:04 JieXian wrote: you're saying if kush claims you're not town? If kush claims that he didn't follow my plan, than I'm not confirmed town. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On December 26 2012 17:06 Djodref wrote: Why do you care ? Waiting to send in your kills ? Night is going to be in 14hours and I'm also going to be confirmed town at that point ^^ And it really doesn't look like it pleases you  So did you vote for ghost? | ||
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JieXian
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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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It doesn't matter who voted for ghost. What matters is that if Djo actually voted for Mr.CC, Mr.CC would have won. Mr.CC did not win. Mr. CC can't be lying about his check, because ghost claimed he won (and you think ghost is confirmed town). Unless you think ghost is lying as town, then Djo is scum. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Unless of course Djo royally fucked things up, but this is not the case: On December 25 2012 02:28 Djodref wrote: So, as a reminder, I've sent my PM to Blazinghand the 24th of December at 15:46. I cast my Wichtcraft Vote for Cheese ^^ On December 25 2012 02:34 Hapahauli wrote: Sent at 15:59 on my end. Ghost promised to sheep me, so he should be complying. Kush and JX should comply, but I doubt they have witchcraft votes D= | ||
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