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Rad
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Choosing axle for lynch is a coin flip. Choosing one of us for a lynch is a coin flip that rests on axle's choice. Sylencia, it doesn't matter if yamato is scum without axle's vote, and yamato is currently axle's top town read. After no lynch, it's 2v1 with axle pretty much 100% guaranteed to be in it. If you're NK'd, axle and yamato vote me, or me and yamato vote axle, but probably not me and axle voting yamato. If you're not NK'd, there's some crazy wifom play going on or you're master scum. | ||
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He can choose to vote for me here and pretty much guarantee my lynch due to split vote no lynch, Sylencia NK, and my lynch the next day. Only chance for town win at that point is if yamato is not scum and we vote axle. Doesn't make sense for axle to vote me for this lynch and switch to yamato next lynch. Anyway... ##Vote: yamato77 | ||
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http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/nPb8i3HLm4nx/p0.100 (just tack on the p0.100 to the url) instead of clicking through the back button over and over. Or if there's an easier way... ignore me >.> | ||
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On December 15 2012 10:15 Hapahauli wrote: Good job Rad - very very impressive play towards the end of the game. I'm not sure why people are saying he was so obvious in the early game. He played a really solid game throughout. D1 was interesting, because I think scum played decently except for their target selection. Going all-in to lynch Kickstart was just about the worst thing you could've done. He didn't look scummy at all, and he was one of the few townies who would put up a fight to a lynch. Going for any of the other players would have been perfectly fine, but scum took way too much of a risk when they went after the most vocal player and got into an OMGUS war. We were mostly playing solo at first, not really coordinating stuff like that. We pretty much coincidentally attacked the same guy lol. I was just trying to do what I thought I'd do as town so a lot of our association was coincidence. I think one major thing that was telling was my lack of interaction with him directly. I tried to play that off for the rest of the game by not really having much association with sylencia to make it seem like that's just what I do with people I think are townie. | ||
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On December 15 2012 10:18 Kickstart wrote: Well GG Rad, even though me and cheese both had you pinned early on xD. I am quite dismayed that you lived day 2 because Axle randomly switched his vote from you to me (the most town person in the game given day1 events) and by the lurkers just going "too obvious that rad would be scum, he cant be". That being said though, I was in a position to push it harder and should have (people in obsQT pointed out to me later that a meta case tacked onto my huge day2 case on you would have sealed the deal because your play was nothing like your past town games, so I will maybe try to start using meta arguments to add to my already strong cases, because normally I stay away from them). Yeah, you had me =P The d2 no lynch was so relieving since I knew you were going to be dead next. I really believe I'd have attacked your first joke oat's statement as town though, so I dunno, we'd probably have gotten into a fight regardless of my alignment. I need to stop doing that TBH. | ||
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1. Town needs to be more active. I almost lost this game due to a quiet town, but I adapted and won because of it. Out of the gate I wanted to be very talkative, pushing discussion, etc, but because town was so quiet I was easier to read because there were less of us doing the talking. A more experienced scum player, I think, would likely notice the quiet town and try to blend in with it. If I did that at the beginning, I think I a) don't piss off kick, b) don't show as much of an association with oats, and c) just become yet another lurker in a game of lurkers. At that point, I can take my time and really make sure what I'm saying isn't scummy. 2. Policy lynch on lurker is, at least in my opinion, really necessary. You need to let it be known that that shit is not acceptable, and then you can decide later whether or not you want to go through with it if it turns up. D2 lynch, if not me, should have probably been a lurker, because you need to keep things moving. So for those who were unsure of me, consolidating on a lurker lynch would have at least made this game go in a different direction (if you lynch arn d2, you don't lynch him d3, and I'm a much better candidate on that day because I've had to talk more, and am now worried that I might get lynched if I lurk too much). 3. Don't give up! I lose this game after d1 lynch if I gave up when I thought I should. Town lost this game because you gave up (well, mainly because of lurkers, but also this). 4. Question your reads. Confirmation bias goes both ways, you can sit there and think someone is scum the entire game or town the entire game just because you keep reading stuff with that frame of mind. Anyway, probably bad advice in there but just my thoughts ^^ Some personal notes: arn - I really felt bad for you because I knew your lack of time was genuine, so sorry for capitalizing on that <3 I hope you come back to play because your misreads on the situation felt a lot like my own when I'm town, and you'll get better and have more fun the more you do it. sylencia - felt bad for you also because you were confirmation biased the entire game due to me being too scummy to be scum, but don't feel too bad, cause I hard defended scum clarity for the entirety of NMMXXX and was absolutely sure 2/3 of the scum from NMMXXIX were town (dandel and CC) axle - you are going to be one seriously scary player, I can tell. No one had me more worried this game than you and I tried my hardest to discredit you any time I could. Apologies <3 A word of advice though, think to yourself, not to the thread  Also, I was right in the NMMXXXI QT wasn't I?yamato and kick - lighten up :D We're going to get into fights as fellow townies one day! kick - glhf with your scum meta in the future because you were soooo different than your last NMM. I wonder if you'd have caught on to me if I didn't attack your joke though, so realize that town can do that stuff too (TBH I do think I'd have jumped on it if I was town) yamato - your red with anger was really clearly town to me, so I'm looking forward to seeing you as scum one day to see the differences :D I think it'll be hard to fake your giving up on the game, which you clearly showed and worried the shit out of me end of the game. I was waiting for people to start second guessing whether you were scum, and I think if you had put in just a bit more effort you could have done that. Check out NMMXXX end of D1 where town CC fucks up and gets lynched, but his frantic begging at the end was so clearly town to me. I really feel like at least putting your emotional self out there for others to read is a good town move to do, granted, I would have done the same back, but at least they would have had a real you vs a fake me to work with. jidolboy - you've clearly got good, smart reads, and I saw you start to break out of your shell near the end. You shouldn't worry much about obsing, but rather, just play more and more because the only thing holding you back is your level of participation. You sheeped correctly, but that doesn't make you look town, and if you hadn't been named VT I think you would have been an easy target for me, regardless of your good reads. CC - too good, you're out of the newbie league, shoo oats - rofl too fun, especially once we got on irc and started working together, I totally love your just throw shit out there attitude and if you refine it you should become much harder to read (so, good and bad depending on your alignment at the time ^^) Alright guys, had fun, GG | ||
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