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Just keep it as a note, and act on it when you feel the need to. Otherwise things get out of hand if you decide to continuously change votes again and again. | ||
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A lot of posts made by Oats always ask about people's opinion on yamato. Why is he so intent on getting that information? On December 04 2012 13:37 Oatsmaster wrote: What do you think about yamato voting you? On December 04 2012 13:58 Oatsmaster wrote: So you are gonna ignore yamato's vote? Do you have a town/scum read on yamato? On December 04 2012 14:31 Oatsmaster wrote: IMO Opinions help a lot in determining reads, so when Axle answered the question obliquely or not at all, it doesnt help yamato determine a read so yamato pressure votes Axle. its a pressure vote kickstart. (Why does he feel the need to explain what yamato does when he is clearly capable of doing it himself) On December 04 2012 20:38 Oatsmaster wrote: k cool. What do you think about kickstarts suspicion towards yamato? Also what do you think about yamato? The following posts after that are the ones where people begin to wonder - why did he say yamato was suspicious, then complete 180 and say he was town? Naturally, Oats also did mention Kickstart a lot, but that's because he was pushing for a mislynch to happen so that is only natural that the majority of the time Kick was being talked about by him. So here I wonder, was the plan on day 1 something like this, or did it eventually lead to this: - Everyone starts the game, and off the bat people are suspicious of yamato. - To help draw attention away, yamato stops posting and oats gets to work on a case against Kickstart instead, while also defending people suspecting yamato. - During all this, opinions on yamato are given when asked as this obviously helps the scum work out who they should take out first. - Oats continues his case against Kickstart, but at this point does the 180, and it really seems like he's now subtly putting it out there that yamato is innocent. - Case goes against oats now and he is lynched. In each of the days including the first, yamato has never changed his vote. A smart move, if he was scum because on the first day, going with the crowd would leave him with explaining to do, day 2 ended up with a no lynch, meaning there was a free kill for the scum in any case, and then finally we have day 3 - where him, Arn and I are the most suspicious ones of the group. Within the first few hours of the day he decides to target Arn, and we're left where we are. The majority of this case is based behind the actions of Oats, and I think that he has left enough clues to find the other member of the mafia team. This is the way I decided to look at it this time, and it is the way I am going to vote today. ##vote Yamato | ||
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I mean, sure, my interpretations of Oat's posts may not be completely correct, but it's a hell of a lot more trustworthy than what anyone alive says. Knowing he was scum, you have to think what he was trying to achieve by posting what he did, who he was trying to protect and cover for, and how he did so. | ||
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##vote Arnarnion Can't afford to have no lynch, and if Arnarnion is afk, it's as good as not being in this game. | ||
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On December 12 2012 10:14 Rad wrote: Sigh, arn. Based on your previous thoughts, or did this flip add to it? Considering you're the only confirmed town, being less cryptic would be great. Mainly still based on my previous thoughts, but remember that before that I was thinking it was either Arn or Jidol. Now that both are town, and the information I have, it seems like it's yam. | ||
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In any case, there will be 4 people left. If in any case we cannot decide who is the final member - consider having no lynch. 3v1 turns into 2v1 in which you then have improved odds in hitting the last member, otherwise it will be 2v1 for a mislynch turning into 1v1 after the night meaning they win. At the moment I'm still saying it's yamato, but this is just another way to keep the chances high. | ||
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Anyways, here is the situation that is probably going to transpire if it is a no lynch: I die, you're left with unreadable player Axle, considered suspicious by the other 2 Rad and considered suspicious by Rad yamato. Rad gets lynched and the scum win. However, if there is no solid read for anyone, then doing this is better than mislynching someone as that would end the game immediately. I'm still fully prepared to vote yamato though I think, as between the four of us he is most definitely the one who stands out most as possibly being scum. | ||
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You say if we no lynch, we get into the same situation, that's mostly true, but with a 1/3 shot of finding the scum rather than a 1/4. With 1 less person in the game, the person responsible for the second vote (probably to choose between Rad and yamato) would actually be inclined to check everything about the two players left. So why are you so against having better odds? | ||
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Having 3 people in the game forces Axle to choose someone, he can't avoid it like he can with 4 players left in the game. | ||
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Of course, at this point I do wish I was scum because as you said convincing everyone that I'm going to get NK'd then somehow make it out alive would make for a hilarious situation where no one would know what was going on but alas that's really not the case here. | ||
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You know I won't vote Rad, so you decide to tell everyone to vote for Axle instead, knowing that I've voted for him in the past, you have too and Rad would probably oblige. However, why are you 'chancing' it all on Axle being scum after you already declared him to be town On December 08 2012 15:39 yamato77 wrote: Yeah all my reads on the lurkers are town, even though they all show very little interest in the game. Pressure on them goes basically nowhere, either, because they don't seem dodgy or uncooperative. Axle, although sometimes incomprehensible, seems to be trying to solve the game and give us information to work with so he's probably town. You're basically confirmed town. So I guess Rad is definitely the scummiest. ##Vote Rad And you've called both me and Rad scummy in the meantime? Your desperate move was too obvious this time yamato, and it's pretty clear to me that you're scum. ##Vote yamato | ||
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On December 08 2012 16:02 yamato77 wrote: Then who do you think is scum? You can't honestly think Axle is scum this game, can you? There you go. | ||
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