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2) While I don't want to be trying to lynch more active townies, I feel that lynching lurkers has a negative impact for us, as it really gives up a day where we could be cleaning up the town, and also reduces the number of days we have to live. 3) Pie, cheesecake is disgusting (most of the time)  Favourite colour is orange, though a good yellow has always had a special place in my heart too  | ||
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I don't want to reveal which of the members I feel most suspicious of yet, though I do have a gut feeling about it, and as for the 2nd bad guy, this is pure speculation, but I do feel like they are lurking in the shadows a bit, since there's so much going on already, it'd be the perfect time to just sit back a bit and let the townies destroy themselves. | ||
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On December 04 2012 11:13 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: @Anyone In your opinion, what differentiates bad(newbie) town play from scum play? This one? I feel like one of the major things that differentiate newbie play with scum play is the explanation that comes behind an accusation. I feel that newer players, when accusing others of being scum, will have a lot weaker arguments that are not particularly well thought out. Reasoning would mainly be either lack of experience, or just going on gut feeling that what someone has said in the past seems suspicious. On the other hand, being scum means that you have to have a certain amount of thought behind what you say, as making a contradictory or just a random off-the-cuff statement could shine a light of suspicion on them, which obviously they want to avoid. If a new player is scum, I also found from my real life experience from the game, they do prefer to wait for others to make motions against someone before being sheeping behind them and just agreeing with what others have said. This may not be true all the time, as a lot of new players do get warned about being too obvious about it, but it can happen when they cannot formulate their own attack in time. | ||
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On December 04 2012 10:57 Sylencia wrote: 1) This is my first game of Mafia on TL, I've played it a bit offline, so I'm interested to see how different it is in comparison. 2) While I don't want to be trying to lynch more active townies, I feel that lynching lurkers has a negative impact for us, as it really gives up a day where we could be cleaning up the town, and also reduces the number of days we have to live. 3) Pie, cheesecake is disgusting (most of the time) Favourite colour is orange, though a good yellow has always had a special place in my heart too | ||
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On December 04 2012 19:50 AxleGreaser wrote: 'No more Pity' Just an anecdote here, I have tried the pity play before, and people find it more annoying than anything and it does get you lynched, so it's a wise decision you've made (In the case I was in, I was bemoaning the fact I had gotten a vanilla with a vanilla power twice in one night - as this version gave everyone an extra power, but one of those powers was to gain no extra powers. The chance of getting that power was about 1/50 as well lol) | ||
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Sure, so my theory is this (and I guess the amount of activity kind of makes me feel more strongly about it): When people talk, they will generally give off some sort of tell as to whether they're more likely to be good or not. Even if they don't, they have provided you with information. After time has passed, if everyone has read what everyone else has said, they should have plenty of information to go off. If we have 2 lurkers, those guys we have no information on. In addition, the chance they are a townie is so much higher than they would be mafia. Lynching a lurker on day 1 or maybe day 2 is essentially saying "I don't know, the information given too me is too confusing, let's just take a stab in the dark" - which is the easy way out, and also means that the mafia have already won by that point (not really, but they have a big advantage because they now know that they're in the clear for now). Also, unless the mafia team is some genius combination/afk, I highly doubt both mafia will remain silent during the discussions, meaning that you will be hearing an active mafia member talking and swaying people. The tricky part is catching them in the act. | ||
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On December 05 2012 09:46 Rad wrote: @Sylencia You seem seem to have a lot of insightful things to say, but are holding back. You do realize that you're not just here to solve everything on your own, you need to help us determine if you're town or not, and if you're town, you could help a lot by talking more. Maybe jump in and give some reads? Sure thing, I wasn't planning on holding back for much longer, since I just wanted to get a few more posts in the thread before seeing if anything useful came from it. However, I'm going to have to make a longer post later since my lunch hour is about done and I only just managed to catch up with the thread. For now, all I want to say is that I'm pretty sure Kickstart is with the town here. Firstly, he brings up good, valid points with his posts, there's justification behind what he says and he also has an attitude. This attitude that he is bringing into the game doesn't help him whatsoever, and really only promotes him to be voted. Why would you bring so much negative attention to yourself when you want others to feel like you should still hang around? As I said before, more later but I am only going to be able to lurk around for the next 5 or so hours. | ||
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Axle: Originally, I thought his acts of 'treat me nicely, I'm new' were actually quite suspicious, followed by really confusing posts which initially I believed were just posts to clog up the conversation and keep things disjointed. However, seems like as time goes on I understand what Axle is talking about less and less and now I don't even read the posts because it actually hurts my brain to try and understand the concepts he is talking about. Based off the responses you guys make to what he says, seems to be hard on you too. Basically, if I had no better read, I'd be picking Axle simply because I don't want to have to deal with working with an incomprehensible teammate. Jidolboy: From what I have seen, all that has happened from him are a few answers and then a sudden vote. If I was to guess the way this game was going to go down, it would have the one person who is more active do the swaying, while the other lurks a bit more. As far as I can tell, Jidol has been the biggest lurker in the game so far, and then makes no effort in justifying what he has said. However, does that mean he's piggybacking onto CC, making him scum (assuming that Jidol is too)? Possibly, but probably not, if they were both scum, they wouldn't be picking out Oats I think, and instead piggyback onto the Kick vote. Kick: This afternoon, I said that Kick is a townie because of his obnoxious behaviour. Rad and Oats continue the attack, and bring up rather relevant points, most of which I didn't consider (and also some points due to a past game which I didn't observe). However, at this point in time, I still believe that Kick is a townie, and so at this point in time I will not be voting for him. yamato: More active than jidol, but still seems like lurking, and goes with the easy way out by voting Axle. Also noticed the disappearance after heat being applied on him but whether or not that's due to time zone, I'm not sure. Now, between Rad and Oats, I feel like one is supporting the other, but at the same time, I also feel like one of them is doing so with the intention of swaying the other into believing they are on the same team. This round, I feel like I have to be voting for one or the other here. (Also, while I think that one or the other is scum, I do not think that both would be scum. They stand out far too much and have already essentially said "We are together in this fight", and that'd be some sick psychological tactics or some really newbie play if they were to be double scum) In this case, I will be voting for Oats for two reasons: No lynch doesn't help us get any information. Worst case scenario means if we pick all townies to be lynched, we lose at the same rate as if we didn't lynch Day 1. Between the two, Oats feels a lot more scummy to me. The main point in the end is the suspicion on yamato, followed by the 'scum read' on yamato, followed by a complete drop of the case against him, and then a complete dodge on answering why yamato was even suspected by him in the first place. Also, to me it seems like the case made when explaining why there was a vote for kickstart in the first place could also be applied to him. 1. At the time, yamato was still a suspect, so claims possible read 2. Notices no support for yamato's suspicion, backs out, and goes straight for Kickstart. Naturally, I could be completely off track here, but I feel like the person who I should vote is for Oats. ##Vote Oatsmaster | ||
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I was able to post right now as I just got to work, and everything was still loading up. | ||
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