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Jay this is the part that needs to be bolded:
On December 16 2012 09:17 Palmar wrote:
VisceraEyes cannot be anything but scum at this point. If this is his new town game, I hate it, because the VE I knew and loved was loud, didn't take shit, took random leads and stabs at people. This chilled back non-active VE is either his scum play, or some shitty ridiculous new town meta.
Djodref is almost certainly scum, the resistance to his wagon on day 2 was just ridiculous for someone who got caught lying like a retard. I have zero understanding of why anyone who is town would even consider not lynching him. It's strictly the wrong play not to kill him. He must be killed or this game is lost.
Jaybrundage has very little to defend him, but there's just so many people that need much more attention than him in this game. He could very well be scum, but after killing VE and Djodref you guys should have a clearer picture to look at. don't let scum push this false wagon.
I don't see that as "trouble reading VE". It looks to me like he read VE just fine and made a concessive remark in case VE flips town.
I also corroborate on this with my above post using Liquid City as an example.
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On December 17 2012 12:11 Djodref wrote:
@ Z-Bo
Aren't you supposed to be against taking dead people opinions into account ?
I think that I've read something saying this somewhere. Could you enlighten me ?
What the fuck? Quote it please.
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And why the hell are you taking into consideration ONE LINE of my post on VE? Someone who is your "top scumread" at that.
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On December 17 2012 12:18 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 12:14 Z-BosoN wrote:
And why the hell are you taking into consideration ONE LINE of my post on VE? Someone who is your "top scumread" at that. No, I totally agree with you on VE. I'll try to find it back but it was something like "Z-Bo is going to yell at me for listening to the opinion of dead people" in an obsQT Do you or not ?
That (obviously) is not a quote by me.
That (obviously) does not represent my opinion (watch in mario obs qt how pissed I was that no one listened to my reads).
That (obviously) is not alignment-indicative.
What is your point?
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Actually to hell with that, you are lying through your teeth. Where's your crumb?
There's no way in hell both you and Djo are town.
And please, tell me why you honest and truly think I'm scum?? Is it because of that half-case you didn't push?
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I'm gonna be so pissed if he's actually cop again
Right now I'd lynch into Hapa/jay if this checks out.
grush also kinda looks weird with his vote.
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I gotta leave in 30 min
If no one counters I'm gonna leave my vote on Jay I think
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On December 18 2012 07:56 Vivax wrote:
Please wait for 15 more minutes, so I can have a little talk with you before we all leave after deciding our votes. This shit is important. 15 minutes cause VE has 10 in my book to post his reads.
you got it sir
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I'd much rather lynch jay, but hapa I think also has good chances of popping scum
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MAAAARV, WHERE ARE YOU?????
I gotta place my vote in like 5 min
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I'm generally against voting blues with no counterclaim, but I'm not sure what to do here. The amount of ppl against a VE lynch despite him claiming suggest that it might be a cop not wanting to claim doubting it.
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This looks like liquid city all over again.
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I bought myself like 20 min, we have to decide here
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Ok, guys, VE's play is in total fucking contrast of his townie game.
Palmar is almost sure he's scum.
He has no crumb. Even in LC mafia he had some sort of crumb.
His push on me makes no fucking sense from a townie perspective. Refer to Liquid City mafia.
It's risky for a cop to counter-claim right now, he'll get nked with little chance to actually investigate.
Everything points to VE being scum.
The alternative to that is a no-lynch, which gets us nowhere.
I have to go right now, so I'll take his bluff.
##Vote VisceraEyes
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If we mislynch, it's mylo time.
Hope to see some red when I get back
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Fuck yes!
On December 18 2012 21:42 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 10:51 Hapahauli wrote:
I have Z-Bo as leaning-scum through process of elimination atm.
Djo... I still think his D1 lynch actions are townie. There was that series of "COUNTERWAGON GO" posts that seem suicidal from a scum perspective. One could certainly interpret it as him not giving a shit about who gets lynched other than adam, but I just can't connect a mentality of Djo knowing Adam was scum, knowing that Adam was the clear leader to get hanged, and then going off and pulling the stunts that he did. I like how VE, jay and Hapa wanted to lynch Z-Bo. I'm expecting a meta-case on Z-Bo again, and him getting lynched like in Mario. @ Z-BoWhat do you make of this ? Could you give us some reasons for your activity level being lower than usual this game ?
About my activity, I think I'm more involved than I was in Mario. Still not as much as in some of my other games, but that's because I'm on vacation and living the good life.
Regarding jay/Hapa.
They went after me as soon as thrawn opened the wound. Scum are generally much more comfortable seconding some other reads.
If you note VE's post, look how he said he was re-writing his post on me or whatever, and a bunch of time later, his "case" on me is a couple of quotes, and doesn't push it. I should have realized this much earlier, this is a rather strong tell
Jay's jump on my slip was really pointless as town. He hasn't mentioned me since.
Regarding Hapa, his play is really off from his meta. He play is characterized by making cases, but he also does that as scum. What mostly unsettles me is how he's not thrown anyone against the wall this game, and doesn't have not nearly as much OMGUSing going on as in his townie games.
Now that VE has flipped red, I want even more to lynch into them tomorrow. Their stances on VE, as noted above, didn't look so townie, moreso with jay. Hapa isn't known for sheeping like that, and Jay blatantly tried to "prove" VE was town with some backwards-ass logic.
I am also interested in grush. It's very easy to feign bussing when you never give any reasons or logic. He was like DJODJODJO but suddenly went "nah, VE".
They both have decent chances to flipping scum, but I reaaally want to lynch Jay.
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Regarding marv, I'd rather not crack my brain cells on him right now
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EPT
