EPTand Im thinking that marv is 3rd party actually, he doesnt really seem engaged emotionally at all. Started a random syllo wagon and didnt really justify it.
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
and Im thinking that marv is 3rd party actually, he doesnt really seem engaged emotionally at all. Started a random syllo wagon and didnt really justify it. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
As I said pre-game I am trying to change the way I play. I can't commit the time I have in the past and I am trying to remain an active town asset despite that. If you don't trust me yet that is fine, I'm playing differently than I ever have before and, for some reason people still think I'm a great scum player, you'll realize that I'm town eventually. My activity will always be in spurts. Kita may not be the best leader but he is better than Syllo/Sand (though I would vote Syllo over sand) and I hate the party you chose. I think that Kita has a chance to be party leader and has a better chance of being town than Sand or Syllo. His town reads also agree with mine. Syllo: please answer my earlier questions. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
I am trying to grasp if he is taking this game seriously when he delivers a list of 'reads' with as lousy reasoning as he did. I've seen him play well as both scum and town, and this doesn't look similar to either. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I think that it is a better idea to talk about your party members and give reasoning rather than keeping it quiet, at least for the first cycle. This way it gives us more info about the players and your reads on them which will help us when the flips start happening. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 22 2012 16:17 Oatsmaster wrote: @Syllo I think that it is a better idea to talk about your party members and give reasoning rather than keeping it quiet, at least for the first cycle. This way it gives us more info about the players and your reads on them which will help us when the flips start happening. What do you think about my point that party leader candidates expressing who they plan to choose as their party giving mafia extra influence as to who they want to vote to elect in the event that one of the candidates has a scum member in their proposed parties while the others might not? | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On November 22 2012 16:11 Promethelax wrote: GK: it seems to me that scum want to be elected leader (an assumption but ah well, I have to go with what I have) or at least be a party member, since there were only two candidates who seemed like they would take each other in thier parties I was deeply unhappy. If scum wants be leader (which I believe) than one of Sand or Syllo must be scum. Otherwise a strong candidate would have appeared to oppose them, since that had not appeared I assumed that mafia was content with what we were doing and I was not content with that. As I said pre-game I am trying to change the way I play. I can't commit the time I have in the past and I am trying to remain an active town asset despite that. If you don't trust me yet that is fine, I'm playing differently than I ever have before and, for some reason people still think I'm a great scum player, you'll realize that I'm town eventually. My activity will always be in spurts. Kita may not be the best leader but he is better than Syllo/Sand (though I would vote Syllo over sand) and I hate the party you chose. I think that Kita has a chance to be party leader and has a better chance of being town than Sand or Syllo. His town reads also agree with mine. Syllo: please answer my earlier questions. I understand your concerns about a scum party leader winning day one, but I still don't see any reason why Kita is any less likely to fit that bill. He gained zero momentum until now, and I would speculate that from a scum perspective that is because scum would not vote their candidate without some support jumping onto it. Speculation to be sure, but I don't see any reason why he's less likely to be scum than syllo/sand. Also keep in mind that sand upfront gave syllo "veto powers." Imagine how unnecessary (and ridiculous) a move that would be from a scum perspective, when sand had at that point gained considerable momentum in his campaign and had nothing to gain as scum for making such a statement. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On November 22 2012 16:27 goodkarma wrote: I understand your concerns about a scum party leader winning day one, but I still don't see any reason why Kita is any less likely to fit that bill. He gained zero momentum until now, and I would speculate that from a scum perspective that is because scum would not vote their candidate without some support jumping onto it. Speculation to be sure, but I don't see any reason why he's less likely to be scum than syllo/sand. Also keep in mind that sand upfront gave syllo "veto powers." Imagine how unnecessary (and ridiculous) a move that would be from a scum perspective, when sand had at that point gained considerable momentum in his campaign and had nothing to gain as scum for making such a statement. Have you read their games? They are each others' foils. If Syllo had vouched for Sand, Sand 100% would have won the election. Explain the no scum motivation. anyways I'm off to sleep. See you all tomorrow in ~13 hours, best of luck guys. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 22 2012 16:23 Keirathi wrote: What do you think about my point that party leader candidates expressing who they plan to choose as their party giving mafia extra influence as to who they want to vote to elect in the event that one of the candidates has a scum member in their proposed parties while the others might not? This is absolutely true, although we don't know whether 1 mafia is enough for an event to fail. Balance wise I think it makes sense for that to be case, unless the party consists of townies with a high hidden factor numbers. I'm not going to reveal who I am going to pick. I may do that after the day post if that is necessary; that is to say, if the event fails. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 22 2012 16:45 syllogism wrote: This is absolutely true, although we don't know whether 1 mafia is enough for an event to fail. Balance wise I think it makes sense for that to be case, unless the party consists of townies with a high hidden factor numbers. I'm not going to reveal who I am going to pick. I may do that after the day post if that is necessary; that is to say, if the event fails. I like your logic regarding this point. I would like to point out that the party is going to be revealed automatically in the next day post by the host. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 22 2012 16:12 Adam4167 wrote: Syllo, what are your thoughts on Kitaman. I am trying to grasp if he is taking this game seriously when he delivers a list of 'reads' with as lousy reasoning as he did. I've seen him play well as both scum and town, and this doesn't look similar to either. I don't currently find him particularly suspicious. Some elements of his posts point towards him being interested in figuring things out and nothing stands out as clearly mafia motivated. When he puts in effort his mafia play is good, however. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On November 22 2012 16:53 syllogism wrote: When I said I may reveal who I am going to pick after the day post, I meant that I might explain why I picked the team I did, not just list the names as that is obviously unnecessary What? What benefit would it be not to explain the reasoning for why you picked them? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Its high risk/reward. I really think that the party leader should share party members at least in this cycle.... This will help town have more information :D | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 22 2012 16:58 risk.nuke wrote: What? What benefit would it be not to explain the reasoning for why you picked them? If the mission is a success and everyone considers me town anyway I don't think that's necessary and I would then rather be lazy. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On November 22 2012 17:02 syllogism wrote: If the mission is a success and everyone considers me town anyway I don't think that's necessary and I would then rather be lazy. I'm not a fan of your lazy-when-I-feel-like-it strategy. It still feels like you should have your reads on why you picked your team already. It shouldn't be that much of an effort to scribble them down. What do you think of leader-candidates outside you and sandroba? (feel free to ignore kitaman) | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 22 2012 17:13 risk.nuke wrote: I'm not a fan of your lazy-when-I-feel-like-it strategy. It still feels like you should have your reads on why you picked your team already. It shouldn't be that much of an effort to scribble them down. What do you think of leader-candidates outside you and sandroba? (feel free to ignore kitaman) Acro seems like the only other serious candidate and I do not like his play so far. The most recent post of his that I found off was the one where he suggested for Frog should attempt to run a campaign without claiming and he based this on, in my view, laughable suggestion that frog was a playable character in the first mission of the game. It seemed like a complete fluff post rather than a serious well-thought of suggestion. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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