EPTOn November 22 2012 19:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah pretty much risk.
Who are you looking to vote for party leader?
Yeah pretty much risk.
Who are you looking to vote for party leader?
I have voted sandroba but It's not in stone.
Chrono Trigger Mafia - Page 59
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
I have voted sandroba but It's not in stone. | ||
|
goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On November 22 2012 18:52 phagga wrote: @Goodkarma If you trust Sandro so much, why do you not vote him? If GK thinks Sandro is so townie that you includes him in your team, why should I vote you instead of Sandro? What do you say to the following: You are scum, you include a town sandro to make his team more townie, hoping to catch more votes like that. I answered all of these questions if you were to actually take the time to read my filter... As for what I think of Sandroba currently, I can understand the selection of Kush, but I don't like it. If Kush is in fact telling the truth I find it hard to believe there are that many people lower than 30 HP in a game that has 999HP max (I know this is very speculative but still...). As such I would expect him to have a contingency plan if Kush were to die... I readily admit that Sandroba may not be the best candidate as he's been playing. Since I nominated him, he's been extremely stingy with the details of who he plans on choosing and why. Further I missed there was a role claim by Dien... And I will admit that by adopting a process of elimination-type process it is possible that I overlooked better qualified candidates that are possibly in the "semi-lurker" position. Prox especially comes to mind. But I would like to say that while this is definitely in part my fault it is additionally the fault of those people who have decided to sit back and let things play out without voicing their opinions. It has made it that much harder for me to find three strong candidates. I will reassess my choices, and have a finalized list here in the next few hours. I'll try to touch up on the thread tomorrow as best I can, but will be rather time-limited. Currently the two I object most to on the Kita ticket are Kita and Acros. Kita especially as he has done very little to even try to establish himself as town, and, as the leader of his ticket, that worries me. A lot... | ||
|
Acrofales
Spain18291 Posts
On November 22 2012 13:51 kushm4sta wrote: ^this made me lol. I feel really sick. Like really sick, My symptoms include sore throat, constant shivers, and a fever. What I most regret is I made this really sick breadcrumb saying I was Cyrus and now I won't get to use it. ##Nirvana Strike: Marvellosity Kush, why would you do this? Do you think Marv is scum? Also, if you are feeling terrible, you could probably ask to be replaced out and make VE a very happy guy, rather than ninja striking someone randomly in the middle of D1. You're not Drazerk. | ||
|
marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 22 2012 11:19 kitaman27 wrote: I'll start with people I wouldn't want on my team or wouldn't want the elected leader to choose for their team. As its still only 24 hours into the game, these are mostly gut or policy exclusions. I'm working on a more concrete post about town reads, but I'm also hoping to put up my 4k post blog tonight so I'm not sure on a time table. Hopefully before I get to bed. iamperfection: His spammy one liners annoy me. I think his post in support of syllo made it look like he decided to vote for syllo and then look for a reason to justify it, rather than the other way around. marv: I found this reply quite lackluster. You don't want to run for leader because you're insecure? Do you value helping out the town or not making yourself look bad more? You refer to players you hold in extreme regard, which clearly can only point to myself, yet you have been against my election from the start. Additionally, how does this being a themed game impact your ability to identify townies? This seems like quite a cop out. risk.nuke Besides the fact that he is probably scum, this jerk taunted me by pretending to be interested in hosting a newbie game and then proceeded to ignore my pms. What a scumbag move. strongandbig His opinions have been pretty vanilla thus far. I don't think his contributions have earned him a spot yet. kushm4sta I'm always weary of an erratic player that is behaving himself. Just catching up. This whole post is bad and lacking effort. You're away for a day and we get turkeys and "he said he'd host a newbie game"? Most of your comments on players don't even point to the possibility of someone being scum. iamp's one-liners "annoy you", my post was a "cop out", risk is simply "probably scum" and you're "wary" of kush. That's rubbish. Also, accusing syllogism of being a vegetarian is something I simply cannot abide. Unacceptable slander. | ||
|
Acrofales
Spain18291 Posts
I like your frankness, but still have a hard time reading you as town. Additionally Prom has been playing very differently from normal. While I have no reason to suspect he's scum, I don't have a townread on him either. I am quite happy with your Dino choice and myself, and will go over both your filters again. @Syllo: I think your choice to keep the party secret is not alignment indicative, but rather something you would do in any case. I was leaning town on you before and nothing has changed. However, I am uncertain about putting blind faith in your choice. @Sandro: If Syllo hadn't said you were scum, I would be campaigning quite hard for you right now. However, you and Syllo know eachother well and his thoughts about you have a lot of weight. I want to see you two interact more. I have to agree with risk: why do you have such a strong town read on Oats? I agree with Prom that Oats looks mostly like a try-hard excited newbie, which is not alignment indicative. @GK: I don't trust you and I don't know why I should vote for you. I prefer a team with Dieno and Kush over a team with GK and Djodref. So why would I vote for you? In fact, why would YOU vote for you, rather than Sandro? In closing: I am still on the fence. I will decide between Kita, Sandro and Syllo. | ||
|
marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:45 Djodref wrote: Well, you had scumreads on GK and me, which clearly shows that you are unable to properly assess players alignment. So nobody is going to vote for you. No harm feelings by the way... You should stop your campaign and focus your attention on something else. That would be my advice... Why does this "clearly show" he is unable to properly assess players' alignments? Have you and GK done some fantastically townie things I've missed? If you're taking the angle "I'm town, so you're wrong and bad" then that's completely useless to everyone else because scum would say they're town too. Anything else? | ||
|
marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
If he's telling the truth he will die. | ||
|
sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
@acro oats is one of my stronger town reads. Pretty much all his posts seem very genuine and seem to come from a streamlined thought process with no careful consideration behind it. | ||
|
sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
| ||
|
Acrofales
Spain18291 Posts
On November 22 2012 17:22 syllogism wrote: Acro seems like the only other serious candidate and I do not like his play so far. The most recent post of his that I found off was the one where he suggested for Frog should attempt to run a campaign without claiming and he based this on, in my view, laughable suggestion that frog was a playable character in the first mission of the game. It seemed like a complete fluff post rather than a serious well-thought of suggestion. I admit I didn't have a clear idea of how Frog (or Crono/Lucca) should have played that without claiming unless he was one of the clear candidates for party leader in the first place. I was actually hoping someone would like the idea and help me with the details of how Frog could put himself forward without claiming, but in the end Frog just came forward and claimed. While I think roleclaiming (or nameclaiming in this case) on D1 is almost always a bad idea, I find the claim believable and I think the lore-based approach in general deserves more consideration, so I think Frog is a good candidate to take along on D1. | ||
|
Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Also with the issue brought up by some people with the lack of a contender to Syllo/Sand earlier, scum could be waiting to see what the event does to the party members before committing themselves to a course of action | ||
|
marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 22 2012 20:28 sandroba wrote: @marv what are your top town reads right now amogst the newer players? Oatsmaster and TheChronicler are two of my stronger townreads. Dienosore is probably town as well but his tedious party leader platform annoys me. | ||
|
marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 22 2012 20:31 Oatsmaster wrote: Marv this is a suprise to you? So I guess you have more than 30 hp, ALTHOUGH KUSH could be lying about the hp amount he has.. Also with the issue brought up by some people with the lack of a contender to Syllo/Sand earlier, scum could be waiting to see what the event does to the party members before committing themselves to a course of action oh sorry, I expected to have some stupid ability used on me by a useless player in the middle of the day. My bad | ||
|
Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I think that kush got angry and posted it in the thread instead of waiting for the cycle to end and pm'ing it to Greymist. Or he is faking it blah blah blah. We wont know until either kush comes back or the cycle ends, which is in like 10 hours? | ||
|
marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
| ||
|
goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On November 22 2012 15:53 syllogism wrote: Right now I would say there is a >50% chance that sandroba is mafia. His interest in the game feels superficial and some of his posts feel off. For instance him saying that he is "torn" about clarity_nl as opposed to actually stating whether he now thinks it is more likely that he is town or mafia. His explanation as to why he thought clarity was mafia is also pretty weak by his standards. Pouncing with one-liners on weak stuff? That probably applies to many, many people in every single game. Missed this discussion from syllogism on Sandro... He is no longer on my list. Oats is on both of our lists, and upon skimming his filter I found this: On November 21 2012 15:44 Oatsmaster wrote: Dont guess Djo, how could you know how mafia KPs work in this setup. Does scum have to send in actions before they know who the party leader is? or after the whole party is made? I think you misunderstand me. My point is that we should focus on completing the tasks since that is the only way town gets an advantage. The best way to complete the tasks is the send the 4 towniest players I know it's petty semantics, but since sending in actions is a matter-of-fact thing, I would expect a town to ask if actions were sent in before or after. Since it is a disadvantageous thing for scum if actions are sent in, asking if they have to be sent before party leaders are announced makes sense. So What Now?: Oats is definitely a bit of a try-hard newbie, and honestly that was part of what I felt was townie about him. The biggest issue, however, is that being a tryhard this game is pretty important for the scum wincon, and as such I would expect most scum to be active members (likely more active than town). Between this and that he was included on sandro's list, I am inclined to remove him as well for the time being. I'm not saying he's scum, but I was too eager to bring in people I saw as active and acting pro-town while he could just as easily be acting as scum in this way. Oh wait? Does that mean that you are about-facing and saying Sandroba is scum? Not necessarily. All I know is that there is enough doubt on him, and since I nominated him he has performed very poorly for town. In my opinon town has not done enough to differentiate itself from the scum and that is where my problem has been. These two are going to be replaced with your average town representatives, which at this point of the game I am confident is the semi-lurker demographic. It's not what I would have hoped for, but it looks to be the safest demographic to tap from, especially since more than half the current players reside there... | ||
|
marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
| ||
|
goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
Filter reading tyme. | ||
|
risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
| ||
|
Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I have been pretty active and commenting on everything, I also made one of a few proper scumreads THE ENTIRE GAME. I know that I am town, duh, so therefore, I should be on the party in order to make sure that it succeeds. Risk, read my filter and point out things you think are scummy and town, then make a read. | ||
| ||
