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On December 01 2012 20:27 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 12:47 Djodref wrote:On December 01 2012 04:20 CaveJohnson wrote:
Turducken was EMP
Night 2 I used cold snap (Eclair) on Djodref for self preservation reasons. I dunno if he ever got role blocked as a result.
I think Kita was targeted and then screwed with not me.
Spicy Jerky screwed with the first person to visit me and only them. I didn't get roleblocked so far. Your action didn't get through or you are lying about it. Drazerk, it is time to come clean. In addition to Kita and Toad (not the most reliable sources), we now have H1 and Djodreff claiming night results different from what you do. I am completely onboard with a policy of shooting you until you either die or tell us the truth. For you to explain: N1 - Kita claims a 50 damage shot and no damage to himself. You claim you took 25 damage and reflected damage back onto one person who hit you. N2 - H1 claims a 126 damage shot. You claim no damage (or at least omitted a damage claim N2). You claim to RB Djodreff, who claims he wasn't roleblocked. N3 - GK claims a 150 damage shot. You claim you took 201 damage. Given that H1 is the only one who claimed a vig shot with weird numbers, it seems as if you claimed N2 damage on N3. N4 - Kita claims a 50 damage shot. You claim no damage. I have even omitted the whole Turducken on Toad, because there's no need to speculate about what Toad was lying about.
Reflected action. It didn't need to be damage
Nothing happened to me N2 DJ should have been roleblocked either night 2 or 3.
Night 3 I took 201 damage.
Night 4 I took no damage .
I couldn't make this shit up even if I tried. I plan out my lies, this is a messy heap of awfulness that no one can explain until the night actions get posted in the end game.
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On December 01 2012 20:06 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 15:21 TheChronicler wrote:
Confirming that I didn't get a pm. Gnight. Funky shit. This means the healing notification mechanics may be different than we thought. I find it very hard to believe VE OR TC would be dumb enough to lie about healing at this point. Either that, or there is some kind of action redirector that is severely screwing with our minds. However, if it is targeted I can think of no sane reason to use that on Hapa and TC rather than high profile players who you'd expect to get healed (Syllo, Marv, Dino).
If VE can't actually heal, his only only real options were claiming RB or claim healing TC. I think every believable target has claimed receiving damage and out of those town trusts TC least. I think VE should claim all his night actions so far. Role claiming a healer when you aren't one is very risky for mafia though, we'll see what happens with his next few actions.
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Draz, tell me who scum is. Paint me a picture.
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I don't find scum unless I'm scum / third party its kinda my ultimate weakness.
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Find one analysis by me as town. I've played well over 40 games and I bet you can't find one.
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Are you claiming scum?
On November 26 2012 02:10 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 02:01 risk.nuke wrote:On November 26 2012 01:46 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 26 2012 01:38 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 01:24 risk.nuke wrote:On November 26 2012 00:36 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:26 risk.nuke wrote:On November 26 2012 00:22 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:19 risk.nuke wrote:
Why am I like a ghost in these games. Even when I run for leader I am mostly ignored. I think it's because you are not active enough  I won't vote for you by the way, there are some people that I trust more. I understand how you feel if it can do any good to you. It doesn't do me any good, you're free to vote for whoever you want but even if you don't want to vote for me you can still comment on me for everyone's benefit. Well, I would not vote for the following reasons - The waiting game you have played yesterday with your vote on Sandro, nice way for not contributing during a lynch day
- The way you answered kitaman suspicions towards you ("scummy post from a scummy player")
- The fact that you are not active enough, I expect a party leader to have some leadership
- The fact that you take syllo and TheChronicler in your team. Dieno and Oats is better than syllo and Oats. TheChronicler is meh....
I have been active and don't get into sementics, would you had approved if I had said. I'm not going to take my vote of the scummiest player just because he's avoiding the thread. Kitaman had done squat all game which is more then enough to justify the title of scummy behaviour when he showed up with a pisspoor case against me. As I said I don't think Dia is a good addition to the team. Do you believe there are no repercussions to prevent town from beating the game using claims? And in addition to that he's lost the majority of his hp. Hypothetically what if a condition is if a teammember has less then x hp the mission will fail, or maybe it will fail and kill him. Syllo is by far better then both oats and dia, I've considered keith being better then oats aswell. And chronicler is very likely town. He's the one who copchecked toad so unless you think scum is trading 1for1 you shouldn't doubt him. @risk.nukeYou have not been as active as marv for example. I would have liked if you have participated more in the scum hunt during D2. Toad was not so difficult to find for example... (Correct me if I'm wrong but I assumed that you were familiar Toad here) Ok, fair enough. Ok, that's speculating. I have more faith in a town Dieno than in a town syllo, and that's all what matters for me. Anyway, if we present 4 town members, the event is going to succeed for sure I guess. Easy enough imho... What do you mean by "better" ? I'm only caring about the fact that they are more confirmed town. TheChronicler could have bussed Toad with a fake cope claim. The only thing that indicates a town TheChronicler is this copeclaim... you think acro faked his copclaim as well? Acro claimed 1-shot cop on a person who had just been busted by another cop claim. I think it's very convenient. 09:30 - Flip 09:51 - Acro's first post after flip 10:32 - TC's roleclaim and his first post after flip 13:20 - Acro's roleclaim Why would anyone believe Acro? the only interesting thing is he gave us an actual role name but if I was scum in that situation I would know to throw toad under the bus. Doing it after TC's role claim was pointless. If you get a red flip you claim ASAP 1-1 trades are always good for town. No exceptions. Acro's claim SHOULD have been before TC's if it was real.
Or is that supposed to not be analysis?
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On December 01 2012 21:57 Clarity_nl wrote:Are you claiming scum? Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 02:10 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 02:01 risk.nuke wrote:On November 26 2012 01:46 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 26 2012 01:38 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 01:24 risk.nuke wrote:On November 26 2012 00:36 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:26 risk.nuke wrote:On November 26 2012 00:22 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:19 risk.nuke wrote:
Why am I like a ghost in these games. Even when I run for leader I am mostly ignored. I think it's because you are not active enough I won't vote for you by the way, there are some people that I trust more. I understand how you feel if it can do any good to you. It doesn't do me any good, you're free to vote for whoever you want but even if you don't want to vote for me you can still comment on me for everyone's benefit. Well, I would not vote for the following reasons - The waiting game you have played yesterday with your vote on Sandro, nice way for not contributing during a lynch day
- The way you answered kitaman suspicions towards you ("scummy post from a scummy player")
- The fact that you are not active enough, I expect a party leader to have some leadership
- The fact that you take syllo and TheChronicler in your team. Dieno and Oats is better than syllo and Oats. TheChronicler is meh....
I have been active and don't get into sementics, would you had approved if I had said. I'm not going to take my vote of the scummiest player just because he's avoiding the thread. Kitaman had done squat all game which is more then enough to justify the title of scummy behaviour when he showed up with a pisspoor case against me. As I said I don't think Dia is a good addition to the team. Do you believe there are no repercussions to prevent town from beating the game using claims? And in addition to that he's lost the majority of his hp. Hypothetically what if a condition is if a teammember has less then x hp the mission will fail, or maybe it will fail and kill him. Syllo is by far better then both oats and dia, I've considered keith being better then oats aswell. And chronicler is very likely town. He's the one who copchecked toad so unless you think scum is trading 1for1 you shouldn't doubt him. @risk.nukeYou have not been as active as marv for example. I would have liked if you have participated more in the scum hunt during D2. Toad was not so difficult to find for example... (Correct me if I'm wrong but I assumed that you were familiar Toad here) Ok, fair enough. Ok, that's speculating. I have more faith in a town Dieno than in a town syllo, and that's all what matters for me. Anyway, if we present 4 town members, the event is going to succeed for sure I guess. Easy enough imho... What do you mean by "better" ? I'm only caring about the fact that they are more confirmed town. TheChronicler could have bussed Toad with a fake cope claim. The only thing that indicates a town TheChronicler is this copeclaim... you think acro faked his copclaim as well? Acro claimed 1-shot cop on a person who had just been busted by another cop claim. I think it's very convenient. 09:30 - Flip 09:51 - Acro's first post after flip 10:32 - TC's roleclaim and his first post after flip 13:20 - Acro's roleclaim Why would anyone believe Acro? the only interesting thing is he gave us an actual role name but if I was scum in that situation I would know to throw toad under the bus. Doing it after TC's role claim was pointless. If you get a red flip you claim ASAP 1-1 trades are always good for town. No exceptions. Acro's claim SHOULD have been before TC's if it was real. Or is that supposed to not be analysis?
Thats not analysis.
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On December 01 2012 21:31 CaveJohnson wrote:
Find one analysis by me as town. I've played well over 40 games and I bet you can't find one.
While you didn't post analysis in Bastard 2, you definitely posted your thoughts. In fact, I just went over that game again and saw that you were the one to push me into giving the whole Hyaach/xkskskks thing a more careful analysis.
In this game, all you've done so far is create confusion with night actions.
Who do you think is scum?
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Clarity I didnt get a pm last night,
so I didnt get healed.
I am up for Stealing the sword and sending me to punch flea in the face
##Slash: A
##Flea: E
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Oats, is there any chance you were at full health? You claimed 250 damage the day before. Was that healed already?
Clarity, you mentioned your heal on Marv was conditional. Is this the same kind of deal? What does this tell you about Oats? Also, you said you were out of heals...
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Nope Im not at full health 
I still have a lot of hp,
Heals are appreciated
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Still ignorant, so ill go with popular opinion.
##Slash: A
##Flea: E
Anything to contribute thus far Austin?
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I still don't follow why people are going with "A" for Slash. Doesn't the wording grab for the sword have "trap" written all over it? The option doesn't say anything about actually grabbing the sword, but rather reaching for it... It may be complete speculation, but if you were to actually kill the boss you should get the sword anyway. And you wouldn't be taking such risks...
Having a low-HP Dieno die fighting a boss doesn't make sense though, so leaving it to Oats is a sensible action. It sucks though that we can't make use of him now that he finally has his powered-up Masamune...
##Unvote
##Slash: "C"
##Flea: "E"
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On December 01 2012 23:30 Acrofales wrote:
Oats, is there any chance you were at full health? You claimed 250 damage the day before. Was that healed already?
Clarity, you mentioned your heal on Marv was conditional. Is this the same kind of deal? What does this tell you about Oats? Also, you said you were out of heals...
Yeah I lied. Oats should have gotten healed if he took damage the cycle before.
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Clearly something is screwing with us.
Also, Strong and Big is scum so vigi him :D
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Do you know this for a fact Oatsmaster?
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On December 02 2012 00:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Clearly something is screwing with us.
Also, Strong and Big is scum so vigi him :D
I agree with you, but would you care to elaborate on your reasoning for your read?
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On December 02 2012 00:23 goodkarma wrote:
I still don't follow why people are going with "A" for Slash. Doesn't the wording grab for the sword have "trap" written all over it? The option doesn't say anything about actually grabbing the sword, but rather reaching for it... It may be complete speculation, but if you were to actually kill the boss you should get the sword anyway. And you wouldn't be taking such risks...
Having a low-HP Dieno die fighting a boss doesn't make sense though, so leaving it to Oats is a sensible action. It sucks though that we can't make use of him now that he finally has his powered-up Masamune...
##Unvote
##Slash: "C"
##Flea: "E"
Either there's a trap option or there isn't.
If there is, yeah, reaching for the sword could be a trap. But "charge all at once" could be a trap as well.
C sounds like it's not a trap, but limits our options for later events in the cycle. I'd rather have MP later on, and between grabbing for the sword and charging all at once, grabbing just seems like the better option based on how the fight works in the game. The fact that it could be a trap holds true for both A and B, so I don't think a possible trap is a reason to choose anything other than C, which I don't want to do on the first event of the day.
Adam, no. I've skimmed things, but that's the best I could do. There's so much going on that I got lost not just in the volume but in just trying to write down who has used what on whom when and all that jazz.
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