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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18114 Posts
December 01 2012 18:04 GMT
#5481
Also, I doubt the truthfulness of S&B's "raise max HP by 300" part of his ability. SnB fakeclaiming sounds more plausible. I will read his filter. I was not getting scumvibes from him, but lurking makes it hard to read. Will take a close look.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
December 01 2012 18:09 GMT
#5482
syllo: I can only use it on certain players/under certain conditions. This isn't the first time I've used it, I used it successfully on dieno on night one. night two I forgot to send in an action, night three there was no one I could use it on who I wanted to use it on so I headbutted acro.

acro: why?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 01 2012 18:11 GMT
#5483
Dianosore: if you had taken 300 less damage on day 1, would you have required saving from death on N4? Does this math sound plausible?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18114 Posts
December 01 2012 18:15 GMT
#5484
The ability sounds convoluted and weird. Neither the OP nor any other mechanics in the game indicate that max HP can be changed, while heals and healing mechanics are mentioned explicitly.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 01 2012 18:19 GMT
#5485
What is the condition? You can only use it on a person who is in a party and you have to know their character name?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#5486
Actually I think I got the cycles wrong so that doesn't quite work out
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18114 Posts
December 01 2012 18:27 GMT
#5487
On December 02 2012 03:21 syllogism wrote:
Actually I think I got the cycles wrong so that doesn't quite work out

D1 party was Syllo, Dieno, Oats and Keirathi.
D3 party was Dieno, Oats, Clarity and Marv.
Your theory works. However, abilities that work only based on nameclaims tend to be scum related: hosts like to punish player for claiming, not reward them.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 01 2012 18:28 GMT
#5488
Didn't Oats take the damage on N4? The cycle when the party failed due to dino not sending in a team? But yes, that was my theory
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18114 Posts
December 01 2012 18:29 GMT
#5489
Dieno, how much damage did you take last night? You required saving from death, so you must have taken some.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18114 Posts
December 01 2012 18:30 GMT
#5490
On December 02 2012 03:28 syllogism wrote:
Didn't Oats take the damage on N4? The cycle when the party failed due to dino not sending in a team? But yes, that was my theory

Yeah, you're right.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 01 2012 18:46 GMT
#5491
Where did you go S&B? What is the condition for your ability to be usable?
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 01 2012 18:59 GMT
#5492
Syllo did you RB+track Hapa last night?

He claims he was roleblocked and you're the only roleblocker that has claimed.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 01 2012 19:00 GMT
#5493
Yes I did, he didn't go anywhere. Shouldn't have bothered though as if he is mafia, I telegraphed my target way too much.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 01 2012 19:02 GMT
#5494
Okay, just making sure.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 01 2012 19:39 GMT
#5495
Just went through Toad's filter post-flip. Here are the somewhat relevant bulletpoints:

Opens the game with a scum read on Keirathi before little content has been posted. They exchange words a couple times and his read is dropped by the end of the day.
Claims to think that the mafia team has all their eggs in the same basket with the day one lynch.
Loves Kita (I love you too)
Doesn't comment on GK as a candidate.
Decides to push for a sandroba lynch late d1
Considered Cave anti-town and supports dealing with him by vig shot.
Claims roleblock night three.
Claims 710 damage, followed by 750 damage with the Cave shot.
Likely raged in scum quicktopic after the investigative checks

Conclusions:
Toad had little support for the election and didn't support sandroba. The mafia team was content with losing day one.
The mafia team decided sandroba wasn't going to be very useful quite early.
We know Cave must have a kp amount that probably isn't divisible by 5 or 10 due to the single point of damage he received. Therefore, if his ability is legit, the amount of damage that he would be dealing isn't divisible by 5 or 10. Toad or Cave much be lying about the damage amount.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
December 01 2012 19:48 GMT
#5496
On December 02 2012 03:46 syllogism wrote:
Where did you go S&B? What is the condition for your ability to be usable?


dota

the condition is that i have to know their rolename.

it seems counterintuitive to me too to have an ability that rewards town roleclaiming, so i've been thinking it's a trap or there's some kind of scum claim-based ability as well but who knows
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18114 Posts
December 01 2012 19:48 GMT
#5497
Well, given H1's claim, it is possible that the two together add up to a round number. However, given the fact that Toad flipped scum I don't think there's any reason to take his word for the amount of damage he took.

Also, what do you know about the scumQT?
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
December 01 2012 19:48 GMT
#5498
if i guess the rolename wrong the ability fails and i cant use it again next cycle
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18114 Posts
December 01 2012 19:50 GMT
#5499
On December 02 2012 04:48 strongandbig wrote:
if i guess the rolename wrong the ability fails and i cant use it again next cycle

Who did you try to use it on D2 and what did you guess?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 01 2012 19:55 GMT
#5500
On December 02 2012 04:48 strongandbig wrote:
if i guess the rolename wrong the ability fails and i cant use it again next cycle


Have you considered trying to verify GK's nameclaim?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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