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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:04 GMT
#884
On November 30 2012 01:04 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 01:00 Kickstart wrote:
What in the world are you talking about SDM.


Yuor reaction is so far from town thinking I'm thinking it might be scum thinking.

EXPLAIN.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:07 GMT
#889
On November 30 2012 01:04 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hey I am just looking though potential possibilities. And yes that isn't helping oats.

I just find it hilarious that everyone's mention of association cases involves me.

Seriously? I could definitely make an association case on Kick and CC but it's bad and I'm not going to mention it just to mention it. This is the kind of posting that makes people think you're not really playing, just kinda watching, which doesn't really help town. It doesn't hurt it either but I think you should put your notes together and make a fucking case.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:10 GMT
#894
On November 30 2012 01:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On November 30 2012 01:00 yamato77 wrote:
On November 30 2012 00:50 Kickstart wrote:
I agree 100% with yamato that this claim is fucking up town pretty bad because Oats basically forced us to divert the entire thread discussion to whether or not his claim is fake or real, but I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion yamato that we lynch him anyways - what if his claim is true? ;/

Then we lynched a lurking town D1 because he didn't put in enough time to play the game properly, and then we lynched a blue D2 for playing so terrible up the point of his claim that there was NO REASON to believe what he said when he claimed.

If that's true, two town players have basically screwed over their own wincon.

If we don't lynch him, who is the alternative? Jacob? Me? No one thinks CC is worthy of further inspection?

What about Helo and Aqua? Are either of them worth suspicion?

Is SDM's inconclusive play D2 helping town? His one and only case was one he backed off of D1.

So you guys choose. Lynch Oats or find his potential scumbuddy. My vote sticks with him until someone else makes a case I can honestly get behind.


The bolded parts look really scummy, who thinks of wincon in a situation like this?
yamato also just names all the players without saying anything about them. Again FOR WHAT?

Who thinks about wincon? What kind of stupid question is that? Am I not supposed to care about how to win?

I name all the players to demonstrate the LACK of real cases against them, not to make them. All of our alternatives to lynching you are hilariously bad.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:14 GMT
#901
We could have 2 blues that are both not doctors and neither one could counterclaim, but he would still be fake claiming. Even if we can counterclaim, doing so gives scum a really easy target and we trade Oats for our doc.

I'm not sold on this idea at all.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:16 GMT
#905
Whatever guys. You play this setup game with Oats to figure out if he's really claiming or not and I'll go actually scumhunt.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:17 GMT
#907
Just realize that you're playing right into his hands if he's really scum.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:20 GMT
#908
Also SDM you need to explain why you think kick's posts imply scum thinking,
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:36 GMT
#923
Why should doctor claim 100%? If you like a 1 for 1 trade I guess but I think losing our doc is pretty bad just for one scum who ALREADY looks scummy.

Again, I'm not sold on doc claiming at this point. I think we can definitely do other things than just speculate about this for 11 hours.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:44 GMT
#930
And as I've pointed out three times now, no claim does not mean Oats is town. Either way we are in the same position. I don't see how it has taken 4 pages for you guys to see it my way.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:47 GMT
#933
On November 30 2012 01:44 HeloKnight wrote:
Hm. He's either scum or doc and we would just be blind lynching.

If you think he is scum without the claim, that is how you should act.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 19:43 GMT
#955
I have class and then work. thought I had more time. Vote stays with oats.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 21:00 GMT
#958
Alright last post before I head to work.

I suggest to the rest of my townie buddies that you look for someone else today. My time is going to be limited Friday and Saturday due to previous commitments. Tonight I will come back and do some real hard reads on people's filters to try to make more sense of this game.

I think my criteria of town being unsure of itself this game is one to REALLY consider. Mafia has done a good job sowing extra layers of doubt in people's heads about allegiances. This is a vague criteria to look for but something to consider when reading people for tone.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 21:25 GMT
#962
On November 30 2012 06:12 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
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On November 30 2012 06:00 yamato77 wrote:
Alright last post before I head to work.

I suggest to the rest of my townie buddies that you look for someone else today. My time is going to be limited Friday and Saturday due to previous commitments. Tonight I will come back and do some real hard reads on people's filters to try to make more sense of this game.

I think my criteria of town being unsure of itself this game is one to REALLY consider. Mafia has done a good job sowing extra layers of doubt in people's heads about allegiances. This is a vague criteria to look for but something to consider when reading people for tone.


So scum is pretending to be confident in their reads in order to sow confusion? I feel like I've been one of the most confused AND confusing players in this game. The only thing I seem to have been able to establish is my own townieness.

Don't get me wrong, players who seems to deliberately sow confusion is scummy. Sometimes being confused yourself will sow confusion.

Jesus Christ, this post is confusing.

Dude I am going to say the same thing I said to Jacob because you have posted like him since halfway through D1. I know this game is difficult and all but using the thread as your personal idea checker isn't helping anyone. Figure out what you think scum's plan was this game. Look for people who have acted like you think scum would act.

All these self-esteem issues you're having with your reads is beginning to make me think you might not be so townie after all. You haven't pushed a single case all game. You dropped your (bad) case on CC the INSTANT he responded to it. Since then you have done little else but basically sheep yourself on other people's cases and post every little minute thought about the game you've had in the thread. Shape up.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 21:47 GMT
#966
Actually I take back what I said about scum pushing their reads hard this game. That makes no sense. I have just been focusing on CC and kick for their suspicion of me. confirmation bias ftl.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 21:51 GMT
#969
ok seriously last post from my phone before I clock in at work. Someone should look at SDM. A lot of us have read him as town and why? He has posted a LOT this game but I can't really recall much in the way of pushing reads or making real cases.

FoS: Sonic Death Monkey
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 23:21 GMT
#977
posting from work because this game is distracting me. I'm not saying you are evil necessarily, but again I feel like my actions thus far have gone nowhere so I'm beginning to change my entire perspective on this game. I am definitely not calling you scum, I'm just announcing my intent to dig into your play because I feel like I'be given you a pass th home game for no good reason.

I say I can't remember you making your own cases but that doesn't mean that you haven't at all. I ask others to look because I don't have the time on my phone at work to do so.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 23:37 GMT
#981
I remember a lot of CC but not you. Will look into it tonight.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 23:42 GMT
#983
I remember a lot of CC but not you. Will look into it tonight.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 30 2012 02:00 GMT
#1072
Pretty sure no lynch is an option if none of you can make a real decision.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 30 2012 02:47 GMT
#1145
Oats is still scum to me. Not convinced by these half ass cases on Aqua.
Writer@WriterYamato
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