EPTIf SnB is vet then I've been playing great this game and Marv has good control of his temper.
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Blazinghand
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If SnB is vet then I've been playing great this game and Marv has good control of his temper. | ||
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On November 15 2012 08:28 Hapahauli wrote: Hell you're entire read on me is OMGUS and that I'm somehow not following my principles. This is retarded and I can't imagine you'd ever come up with this shit as town. By all means show me how I'm not - the "overkill" read I've mentioned in some of my other town games as well. I'm not sure how debears questionable posting and his bombastic aggression towards you is indicative of him being scum. If I were trying to advise debears, a relatively (though not super) new player on who to attack, I'd not suggest you, and I'd certainly not say to do so the way he's done. His aggression against you isn't particularly townie but I don't get why you get scum vibes from it. | ||
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Blazinghand
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You're not lynching me today and I'm town. I'm helping you with your ZB read. | ||
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On November 15 2012 08:30 Z-BosoN wrote: Sigh... please make it easy to respond to. I´m not scum and I´m pretty fed-up with having to defend myself every single game being town. "wahh i'm pretty fed up with having to play forum mafia whenever i play forum mafia" | ||
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On November 15 2012 08:36 iamperfection wrote: Well usually your pretty good at putting yourself in other peoples shoes hapa. If i was in his shoes and town and someone that coached me said i was scum i would be pretty suspicious of him. No you wouldnt | ||
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First things first: you are a clever dude.[/qiuote] Yes [QUOTE]On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: You are also aware of your scum meta, and we've talked about it before too. As such you're capable of making changes to your meta, or trying to. In other words, being more aggressive and what have you.[/quote] Yes [QUOTE]On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: Things that have struck me this game with that: - You called iamp "bad" at least a couple of times. Just outright calling him a bad player. This is in contrast to say Rock Band where you railed at him for poor play and you kept pushing him to play better. Here you call him bad and that's different.[/quote] Different than Rock Band, yes. But I've also posted more 1-liners which is different. Also I'm posting via my phone more often which is different. Lots of things are different. Are you really drawing a meta comparison after throwing out my scum meta earlier? Is this "blazinghand isn't playing his scum meta, but some other meta that's not his scum meta, but trust me I think he's scum due to this meta read that's unrelated to his scum meta?" ._. [QUOTE]On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: - You called Kickstart "scum or bad", he should be "ignored", he should be "removed from our discourse" (or whatever the direct quote was). The townie BH I know does not completely belittle players like this. This boils down to pretty much outright bullying of a brand new player, and that is not the townie BH I know.[/quote] [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&user=261213¤tpage=All]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&user=261213¤tpage=All[/url] [QUOTE]On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: - we've also talked about this before again, but one reason you're pretty good as town is that you make yourself look positively townie with your play. I don't give a shit if you got mislynched once, that's how you normally play town. Here your play is marked by put downs, sarcastic remarks, and very little positive input. [/quote] If your'e saying "you've done a poor job of looking townie this game, so I think you're scum" that's reasonable. It's a normal read. If you're saying "you've done a poor job of looking townie this game, but that's not why I think you're scum-- I think you're scum because as town you have a meta of looking town" then that's unreasonable unless you actually draw comparison to my scum meta. Any read on me should be based on my play, yes, but if you're going to make a meta read call a horse a horse and make a meta read. [QUOTE]On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: - your case on Z-Boson. This was going to be part of my 'quiz', but if we take a look at your two most recent town-games, Rock Band and Whose Line, your first cases are marked by extensive use of meta. X is scummy because of Y, and look at how he played in this game and this game and this game to try to prove your argument. In this game you made no effort to research Z-Boson's meta, and that's not what I expect of a town BH. In contrast, your first major case as SK in Emergency Mafia also failed to utilise any meta as a supporting argument. Same with Bureaucracy. [/QUOTE] So you're saying I have a scum meta of not using meta? Before Rock Band, I'm pretty sure I never used meta as town or scum. After my modkill in igrok's game, I did some serious thinking and have gradually been making changes to my play, including making more extensive use of meta. Just because I haven't rolled scum super recently doesn't mean you can just say "oh look blazinghand isn't using meta, therefore he is scum" As a final note, I want to re-quote this: [QUOTE]On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: You are also aware of your scum meta, and we've talked about it before too. As such you're capable of making changes to your meta, or trying to. In other words, being more aggressive and what have you.[/quote] You can't have it both ways. Either you're using my scum meta, or you're not using my scum meta and you're making a regular case. You can't say "Well, BH's play is nothing like his scum meta, BUT I still think I can make a meta case". I haven't played well this game-- make a case on that instead of wasting our time with non-meta meta reads | ||
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On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: First things first: you are a clever dude. Yes On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: You are also aware of your scum meta, and we've talked about it before too. As such you're capable of making changes to your meta, or trying to. In other words, being more aggressive and what have you. Yes On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: Things that have struck me this game with that: - You called iamp "bad" at least a couple of times. Just outright calling him a bad player. This is in contrast to say Rock Band where you railed at him for poor play and you kept pushing him to play better. Here you call him bad and that's different. Different than Rock Band, yes. But I've also posted more 1-liners which is different. Also I'm posting via my phone more often which is different. Lots of things are different. Are you really drawing a meta comparison after throwing out my scum meta earlier? Is this "blazinghand isn't playing his scum meta, but some other meta that's not his scum meta, but trust me I think he's scum due to this meta read that's unrelated to his scum meta?" ._. On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: - You called Kickstart "scum or bad", he should be "ignored", he should be "removed from our discourse" (or whatever the direct quote was). The townie BH I know does not completely belittle players like this. This boils down to pretty much outright bullying of a brand new player, and that is not the townie BH I know. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&user=261213¤tpage=All On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: - we've also talked about this before again, but one reason you're pretty good as town is that you make yourself look positively townie with your play. I don't give a shit if you got mislynched once, that's how you normally play town. Here your play is marked by put downs, sarcastic remarks, and very little positive input. If your'e saying "you've done a poor job of looking townie this game, so I think you're scum" that's reasonable. It's a normal read. If you're saying "you've done a poor job of looking townie this game, but that's not why I think you're scum-- I think you're scum because as town you have a meta of looking town" then that's unreasonable unless you actually draw comparison to my scum meta. Any read on me should be based on my play, yes, but if you're going to make a meta read call a horse a horse and make a meta read. On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: - your case on Z-Boson. This was going to be part of my 'quiz', but if we take a look at your two most recent town-games, Rock Band and Whose Line, your first cases are marked by extensive use of meta. X is scummy because of Y, and look at how he played in this game and this game and this game to try to prove your argument. In this game you made no effort to research Z-Boson's meta, and that's not what I expect of a town BH. In contrast, your first major case as SK in Emergency Mafia also failed to utilise any meta as a supporting argument. Same with Bureaucracy. So you're saying I have a scum meta of not using meta? Before Rock Band, I'm pretty sure I never used meta as town or scum. After my modkill in igrok's game, I did some serious thinking and have gradually been making changes to my play, including making more extensive use of meta. Just because I haven't rolled scum super recently doesn't mean you can just say "oh look blazinghand isn't using meta, therefore he is scum" As a final note, I want to re-quote this: On November 15 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote: You are also aware of your scum meta, and we've talked about it before too. As such you're capable of making changes to your meta, or trying to. In other words, being more aggressive and what have you. You can't have it both ways. Either you're using my scum meta, or you're not using my scum meta and you're making a regular case. You can't say "Well, BH's play is nothing like his scum meta, BUT I still think I can make a meta case". I haven't played well this game-- make a case on that instead of wasting our time with non-meta meta reads [/QUOTE] | ||
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Blazinghand
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On November 15 2012 08:34 Blazinghand wrote: "wahh i'm pretty fed up with having to play forum mafia whenever i play forum mafia" For what it's worth this is like the scummiest thing ZB has done this game | ||
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On November 15 2012 09:01 Z-BosoN wrote: It's cause you don't know the context balh blah blah vblahl blahblah I meant it in the sense that you aren't very scummy | ||
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The two players who have made the most sense this game are Clarity and Marv (all issues I have with him aside). I don't like Hapa not attacking me-- this is rather un-hapa like. That said, I see nobody wants to lynch him, and the two guys I like best are voting for another guy I like. Between Hopeless, DP, and debears, DP is the most likely to flip scum. debears is at least in the thread and Hopeless is just being hopeless. I shouldn't have unvoted DP. ##unvote ##vote DP | ||
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On November 15 2012 09:46 DarthPunk wrote: Clarity is scum kids. ##Vote Darthpunk RIGHT IN THE FACE. You literally can't believe that. | ||
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He wants to lynch clarity | ||
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On November 15 2012 09:51 marvellosity wrote: I could consolidate on to Crossfire, I guess. I don't think DP is scum. I don't think DP would make a case on Clarity if he's scum. There are enough outlying candidates for him to make a case on and vote on. I think it's more likely DP is being bad. I often find DP's reads as town somewhat ridiculous. It's possible he dove into the thread in the eleventh hour with an insane terrible read but how could you think clarity isn't town after his D1 play. I can't possibly imagine this coming even from a bad town player-- and DP clearly read clarity's filter. | ||
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On November 15 2012 09:52 Hopeless1der wrote: K actually going home this time. I'll be back before the lynch, TL being down notwithstanding If you vote DP you're more likely to die but then we'll get to lynch scum so do that | ||
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