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On November 21 2012 08:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
Since you're not getting lynched it seems, djo, can it wait please? I'd rather people focus on the people at risk of getting lynched.
Fair enough...
Honestly, you are a problem for me right now Clarity. My guts tell me that you are town, your play feels different from last game. You are interacting with everyone and shows a genuine concern for this game in my eyes.
The problem I have is that I should lynch you from a rational point of view.
The case with you interactions with Hapa from BH is a strong evidence against you in my eyes. S&B shows that you could have somehow faked all your interactions and concern for this game. What I can't really explain myself is that you don't like confusion and last minute shenanigans when our last game (this game also by the way) has proved that they could be good for town because scum might be caught after the confusion. I don't like the way you defended yourself from the cases against you because you are mainly calling them bad and I don't see a real intention to change the mind of your attacker and WIFOM was used sometimes.
So for all this, I don't want you at LYLO for sure.
Regarding S&B, I've come to realize that we took the same approach for this game, so I could only blame him for being less active than me, which is not enough to lynch him.
But right now, I would like to lynch DarthPunk above the both of you. For the reasons I have stated in my case.
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On November 21 2012 08:36 Clarity_nl wrote:
Djo, you point this out but you're willing to lynch me over snb?
I want DP to be lynched today but I would choose you over S&B if I have to make the choice.
But that would be stupid and against my feelings so please everybody reconsider DP
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I didn't get caught last game because of last minute shenanigans. I was going to get lynched. Last minute shenanigans saved me for a day as scum. It's easy to hide in chaos as scum. I understand not wanting me at lylo, and maybe all of this is pointless if you are being accepted as town, Djo. Because the scum is snb or darth, if it's not I will be shocked. But the game will end more cleanly if we lynch snb.
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On November 21 2012 08:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
Saying you did something and then saying it's a town thing to do is pointless. Especially when it's something vague like changing your mind
Changing my mind and lynching scum because of it. Both town tells. Scum don't fucking change their mind because then idiots will call them out for being inconsistent. When inconsistency based on changing information is a town tell and tunnelling DESPITE changing information is a scum tell.
Anyway I am off to the GYM won;t be back before deadline. Please lynch clarity or Djo.
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On November 21 2012 08:37 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 08:34 Djodref wrote:On November 21 2012 08:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Also. The case on me was terrible. Just pointing out bad play. I may have played poorly but there is nothing that shows a scum mindset or motive in that case.
Djo, on the other hand, has not scumhunted at all until I pointed it out and then crossvotes me.
Also. I would like to remind everyone that I was being pushed by scum, my mislynch was stopped by town,My not being lynched resulted in a bandwagon on hapa whom I called out in my death post which I then hammered and resulted in a scum lynch.
If you don't think I am town after that I am speechless.
There was a bandwagon on Z-Bo in between and you were a fervent support of it. The persons you really called in your death post were Z-Bo and Clarity. Yeah. And I had a legitimate scum read on him. If you think being wrong and milynching makes someone scum you are sorely mistaken and that does not change the previous facts. In fact, I am more likely to look badly after a mislynch as town than as scum because as scum I know how people are going to flip and I can make myself look good based on that foreknowledge.
That's the reason why I think you chose Hapa over Z-Bo after all. Because your scum read on Hapa was mainly based on the fact that you "obviously saw" that he was bussing Z-Bo.
Could you elaborate on your sudden scum read on Hapa because this one didn't look legitimate in my eye ?
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On November 21 2012 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 08:34 Djodref wrote:On November 21 2012 08:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Also. The case on me was terrible. Just pointing out bad play. I may have played poorly but there is nothing that shows a scum mindset or motive in that case.
Djo, on the other hand, has not scumhunted at all until I pointed it out and then crossvotes me.
Also. I would like to remind everyone that I was being pushed by scum, my mislynch was stopped by town,My not being lynched resulted in a bandwagon on hapa whom I called out in my death post which I then hammered and resulted in a scum lynch.
If you don't think I am town after that I am speechless.
There was a bandwagon on Z-Bo in between and you were a fervent support of it. The persons you really called in your death post were Z-Bo and Clarity. This is bullshit BTW. I had several pre death posts. My reads changed in between which is a TOWN trait. Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:On November 15 2012 10:37 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:35 DarthPunk wrote:On November 15 2012 10:34 iamperfection wrote:
DP DO NOT RUN AWAY IF YOUR TOWN. Give reads on the people voting on you. I just did. more How about this. I was probably not going to be lynched until two of the best town players I know who are very rarely wrong about scum reads lead the most retarded wagon in the world on me which is wrong. So either they are worse than I thought. Can't read me at all or are scum. Hapa is not playing the same as GSL he is playing worse. Hi scum game is townie though so be wary of that. But he is not giving the confident and often correct reads taht he usually gives as town. He is starting up a stupid fucking wagon that he is usually wary of as town. Hapa is like the fucking divine presence of level headedness usually but this band wagon is not it. BH I have never played with before. But he is reading scum into things that should not be read as scummy. SO he might just be worse than I thought. Marv is actually fucking right although rightly confused but seems townie from genuinely wanting to figure shit out rather than leap onto a retarded wagon. Also. How much fucking conviction does BH have in his reads when I am so scummy but then he insta votes for a fucking Coin toss. BH is scum. Because he doesn't give a fuck about the lynch as long as he lynches a townie. Here I call out HAPA and BH as my top scumreads. AFTER the previous post that you are misrepresenting as my only death post. This was BEFORE I switched off ZB onto HAPA whom due to additional information became my number one scum read which is reflected in the alterations between my death posts.
I have difficulties to imagine you figuring it out Hapa in such a short time interval. Could I have some details about what changed your mind between your 2 "last will" posts ?
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My problem is that you figured out Hapa in a very short span of time and this was during the same time that BH, debears and iamp were throwing FoS at Hapa.
And you figured out he was scum by association with your top scum read, which was Z-Bo. You found out that Hapa was trying to derail Z-Bo lynch with debears and then found out that he was bussing him. Many people were in favor of your lynch and you singled out Hapa from all of them.
Hapa was going to get lynched at D2 because so many people were realizing that his play was not right. You escaped the lynch and got a good opportunity of lynching Z-Bo while preparing your bus for D2. But things happened more quickly than you thought.
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Countvote:
Clarity_nl (3): strongandbig, Hopeless1der, DarthPunk
strongandbig (2): Clarity_nl, Kickstart
DarthPunk (1): Djodref
Not voting (2): iamperfection, Blazinghand
Currently, Clarity_nl is set to be lynched! < 2 hours remaining in Day 1.
If you see your (or another's) vote to be wrong, it would be kind to notify us.
Full version:
+ Show Spoiler +Clarity_nl (3): strongandbig, Hopeless1der, DarthPunk
strongandbig (2): Blazinghand, Clarity_nl, Hopeless1der, iamperfection, Djodref, Blazinghand, Kickstart
DarthPunk (1): Djodref
Djodref (0): Blazinghand, iamperfection, DarthPunk
Blazinghand (0): strongandbig
Not voting (2): iamperfection, Blazinghand
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You guys are killing me, letting SnB live far too long. Don't let him slip through another day and night cycle -_-
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I need to go to work right now. I'll check the thread from my phone but I guess that Clarity is getting lynched today.
This is wrong, I think we should lynch DP to win this game.
Can I ask everyone voting for Clarity right now to assess their conviction in his guiltiness ?
Do you really think that he is the last scum ?
My list among non-confirmed players from the most town to the most scummy so far goes down to- iamp
- Kickstart
- S&B
- Clarity
- DP
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Blazinghand
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On November 21 2012 09:20 Kickstart wrote:
You guys are killing me, letting SnB live far too long. Don't let him slip through another day and night cycle -_-
I get what you're saying about SnB. I think for sure we'll have to end up lynching both him and clarity, then one of djodref/DP. If I can make a reasonable town read on one of those four though we can just lynch the remaining three and win easily. What are your thoughts on the four?
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I think DP is the most town but I agree with you that those are the four we should be lynching. As far as an order goes, DP hasn't really been scummy to me so I would vote him after the others (though I do need to read Djos case on him, I just skimmed over it because I just woke up and it doesn't look like DP is going to get lynched today anyways), then I actually like Djos recent posting even though at first I was not a fan of him tunneling you and the mass claim, but now it seems he was right that we kind of have a confirmed setup, though I am a bit worried about this because that means you two will surely be the next to go in the night cycles. The scummiest people so far and ones I really have no reservations about lynching are SnB and clarity, I just feel that SnB has been a scum read for everyone for the entire time so there is no real reason to keep putting off his lynch if we are going to get rid of him.
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What a sloppy post that was, I mean that Bh and hopeless will be the next two to go in the night cycles :[
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I think people's issue with an snb lynch might be too "it's too easy". Which is a terrible way of thinking.
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It is easy that is why we should do it. It has been the easy choice from day 1 but he keeps sliding by ;/
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Blazinghand
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so Kickstart here's what I suspect will happen over the course of these cycles, assuming we only mislynch:
Today: lynch one from SnB+Clarity+Djo+DP
Tonight: I'm shot
Tomorrow: lynch one more from SnB+Clarity+Djo+DP
Tomorrow night: Hopeless is shot
Final day: Kickstart, Iamperfection, and the last 2 from the 4 scummy players are alive-- 3 town, 1 scum.
Assuming we only mislynch until MYLO, we'll have a MYLO with you, iamp, and probably Djo+DP. I'm very sure scum will be shooting me and hopeless tonight and tomorrow night (though maybe not in that order). So we have 3 lynches into 4 players to find 1 scum. Any town or scum reads within those 4 will help us narrow it down.
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On November 21 2012 08:24 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 08:21 strongandbig wrote:
yeah so
if you guys want to lynch me so i can go play chrono trigger, i won't mind
clarity is the scum tho SnB as much as I hate to say it I kinda don't want to lynch you any more today  You've generally been interacting with iamp as though he's a townie. Do you agree with my assessment of his play this game? I've enjoyed your town-read on kickstart, he definitely shouldn't be lynched. If we can nail down 3 town-reads, we win.
i've had a town feeling about him but I don't really have a good reason for it, other than the hapahauli lynch and just his general sort of attitude. He's experienced enough to maybe bus in that position, so I don't really feel like he's super clearly town, but I'm comfortable enough with him to want to focus on other people
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Blazing's analysis is accurate.
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On November 21 2012 09:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think people's issue with an snb lynch might be too "it's too easy". Which is a terrible way of thinking.
pretty sure hte problem is that i'm town not that it's an easy lynch
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