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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 00:52 GMT
#3461
I blame myself though. Shoulda just stayed calm and hunted more scum when snb posted his case, but I saw this situation coming a mile away and it pre-emptively pissed me off.

snb is gonna slip past twice in a row, and if he's somehow not scum he fucked us this game.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 00:53 GMT
#3462
On November 21 2012 09:52 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 09:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 21 2012 09:50 iamperfection wrote:
## Vote clarity

my gut


Sorry iamp, your gut is wrong. Shoulda gone with your brain.

did you forget day 1? shenanigans are never ruled out


I am against shenanigans unless they save me. So if you wanna switch I won't yell at you.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 21 2012 00:53 GMT
#3463
My guts say no to your guts...
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 21 2012 00:53 GMT
#3464
Alright, well, I gotta run. Clarity I don't like how you acted towards hapa and crossfire. If you flip town, I'm sorry. But it's not over if you do. And honestly you're much more wily than Djo, DP, or SnB so between you and SnB I need to lynch you while I'm still alive. You might talk your way out of it after I'm dead.

##vote: Clarity_nl

may the lord have mercy upon our souls
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 00:54 GMT
#3465
I appreciate the kind words this game blazing.

And iamp I take it back, I probably will yell at you.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 21 2012 00:54 GMT
#3466
If you are town:
Use your final hour to make a strong town-read between Djo, DP, and SnB. If in fact you are town, you're a smart guy and I trust your reads. We'll lynch the other two that aren't your strong town-read, okay?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 00:55 GMT
#3467
It's Djo. But I'll make a better post than that, give me a bit
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 21 2012 00:56 GMT
#3468
Oh also, let me know if you don't like my town reads on iamp and kickstart. Because obviously if one of them is scum then we're gonna lose lynching into the other players. Remember you're a confirmed town player after you flip. I'm hoping you're scum though.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 21 2012 00:56 GMT
#3469
bbl
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 00:58 GMT
#3470
On November 21 2012 09:53 Blazinghand wrote:
Alright, well, I gotta run. Clarity I don't like how you acted towards hapa and crossfire. If you flip town, I'm sorry. But it's not over if you do. And honestly you're much more wily than Djo, DP, or SnB so between you and SnB I need to lynch you while I'm still alive. You might talk your way out of it after I'm dead.

##vote: Clarity_nl

may the lord have mercy upon our souls


idk man dp is pretty wily

also ouch
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 01:08:02
November 21 2012 01:03 GMT
#3471
Countvote:

Clarity_nl (5): strongandbig, Hopeless1der, DarthPunk, BlazingHand, Iamperfection
strongandbig (2): Clarity_nl, Kickstart
DarthPunk (1): Djodref

[b][blue]Currently, Clarity_nl is set to be lynched! 1 hours remaining in Day 1.

If you see your (or another's) vote to be wrong, it would be kind to notify us.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:12 GMT
#3472
On November 16 2012 11:04 Djodref wrote:
I was following the game quite closely and I would have liked to lynch Cross or BH today.
I'm quite sure Hope is not SK because it would have been totally dumb for a SK to kill such a scummy player when town is already at a good advantage.


Right after he replaces thrawn after the nightpost where cross got shot. Seriously, scum doesn't do this.

Djo opens by saying "Don't ignore blazing just because he's an uncontested claim"
Then...
On November 16 2012 18:09 Djodref wrote:
I don't think it is as unlikely as it seems. I have good arguments to support this but I'm phone posting from my car so I'm not in the best position to explain them in details but here are a few hints.
First things first, BH play is not town-like. Could we at least agree on this one ?
Secondly, when you look at C9++, from which the setup of our game is derived from, the roles of the mafia team are given after that the roles for the town are decided. So the mafia team have more info than us about the roles. My point is that for a goon, goon, GF scumteam, it is not so risky for a troll goon to claim JK, as it is less likely to have a real JK.
Thirdly, voting against Hapa could have been a soft bus vote rather than a real bus vote because a Hapa lynch was unlikely to happen. Nobody could have foresaw it, especially with the Kickstart switch coming from nowhere.


This is where the setup speculation starts, and it starts for a reason. People seem to overlook this. Djo doesn't just talk about setup speculation for the sake of it, he is doing it to scumhunt. The accusations of him not scumhunting are false.

The setup stuff eventually leads (poor keirathi, really) to us figuring out that hopeless and blazing are confirmed.
I guess in a way the zbo lynch needed to happen because of that, but it could have waited a day, maybe scum would have nk'ed zbo because it was pretty likely he was cop or roleblocker.
Anyway...

Scum actually don't like to speculate setup if it might lead to confirmed townies. Scum love setup speculation, but they don't love to start it. It's the same about policy talk early D1. If a townie is talking policy you join them and ask them questions etc, but you never wanna be the one starting it.
The fact that it's a null tell for so many people is weird to me.

My last point in favor of djo is his case on darth. It makes sense, it doesn't seem forced. He pointed out that one of my comments pointed him towards it, which obviously gives me a stronger town read on him.

If djo comes in as a scum replacement in a 1v9 situation, I think he'd be trying much harder (this might sound weird, it's not to imply you're not trying djo). He would be doing waaaaay more and making cases everywhere. He also wouldn't be throwing around town reads so willy-nilly, because he knows he'd have to 180 on them later.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 21 2012 01:17 GMT
#3473
time to consolidate, even though at this point clarity seems to be gone with or without my vote

##unvote
##vote: clarity_nl
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:18 GMT
#3474
kickstart if you have a stronger scumread on snb, keep your vote on him, I don't think anyone will disagree with this.
Consolidation is only really needed if there's 3-4 people that are viable lynch candidates.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 21 2012 01:28 GMT
#3475
Am I seriously the only one not in favor of a Clarity lynch ?
Anyone up for dp last minute counterwagon ?

Why would scum keep on trying like he does ? Why Clarity is not conceding at this point ?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:33 GMT
#3476
I'm not convinced on a darth wagon for the following reason:
If he flips town I will likely die next daycycle, meaning snb will surive ANOTHER day.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:35 GMT
#3477
I'd rather die today than have snb survive tomorrow. So it's snb or me, djo.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
November 21 2012 01:43 GMT
#3478
Countvote - Fixed version:

Clarity_nl (6): strongandbig, Hopeless1der, DarthPunk, Blazinghand, iamperfection, Kickstart
strongandbig (1): Clarity_nl
DarthPunk (1): Djodref

Currently, Clarity_nl is set to be lynched! 17 minutes remaining in Day 1.

If you see your (or another's) vote to be wrong, it would be kind to notify us.

A backwards poet writes inverse.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 21 2012 01:44 GMT
#3479
looks like its you anyway
you have really improved your game if you flip scum...
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:46 GMT
#3480
I play to improve, it's why I hate last minute shenanigans. Bad posture.
I'm town, though.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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