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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 23:00 GMT
#3381
My case on snb was formed because he was and is scummy. Snb's case on me was formed because he had to make a case to survive. Please see the difference.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 23:01 GMT
#3382
On November 21 2012 08:00 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 07:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't have to go through my filter, I already did after snb's case.
Please keep in mind that it was day 1.

Before my case on darth I took no strong stances. Then I took a strong stance on darth until I switched to zbo because I realized darth was not going to get lynched, and his replies started to look townie.

I do not believe this is scummy. Day 1 is about collecting information and creating a town atmosphere, and there's more than 1 way to go about doing that.

I ask you to look beyond day 1 as well.

the game changed dramatically after day 1 i think in this game the interactions on day 1 are most important. After day 1 and night one the remaining scum had no ones interest but his own correct?


Correct.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 20 2012 23:02 GMT
#3383
why do i get so much sense of fear from your recent posting clarity?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 23:03 GMT
#3384
Because I am afraid you're going to lynch me
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 23:05 GMT
#3385
If you lynch me and I'm wrong about snb, town might lose. I don't want that.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 20 2012 23:08 GMT
#3386
So I'm dropping a made meta read on Iamp for his scum play in GSL Mini III and his town play in Liquid City.

Iamperfections' meta as scum is lurking and big gaps between small posts, besides defending himself. As Town he tends to flood with smaller posts but he's always in the thread and interacting with people. Bearing in mind GSL Mini III is an unusually extreme version of Iamperf's meta, it's still indicative-- in fact, Hapa catches him as scum that game based on meta with extreme ease (link).

In this game Iamperfection is doing his typical "bury them in a mountain of posts!" style town play. He has periods of 2-3 hours where he'll post like 10 times, then he'll go away for ~8 hours then come back and do the same. This is how he plays as town.

n terms of associative tells, he interacts with Hapa in a natural way that doesn't seem like they're scum together. I also like this read he makes on kickstart early on (link) that as scum he wouldn't want to. His suspicions of Hapa (link) tie in well with his willingness to last-minute votehop (link).

Although he does defend crossfire here (link) I view that as more a point in his favor than against him, as Crossfire was a liability for the scumteam and was inevitably gonna be lynched. In particular his interaction with marv here (link) and his attempts to get crossfire to play the damn game here (link) and here (link) make it seem like he really genuinely think crossfire is town.

Basically I don't see scum making a post like this: (link) or like this: (link). This is all consistent with a legitimate town-read on cross, which, given the scenario, is a bad move as scum. Cross WAS going to flip eventually and bussing him was optimal scum play.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 20 2012 23:08 GMT
#3387
i must mull this over dinner
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 20 2012 23:09 GMT
#3388
OH YEAH so TL;DR iamperfection is definitely town
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 23:09 GMT
#3389
Let me put it this way. You see it as fear because I went back to my day 1 logical cold self. Everything between then and now has been way more emotional. Day 1 I have nothing to be emotional over, and I believe if there's a possibility you're going to get lynched as town, you stay calm and make concise points that people can read after you flip, that will actually help.
If I go down kicking and screaming and calling everyone idiots it will help no one.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 23:09 GMT
#3390
On November 21 2012 08:09 Blazinghand wrote:
OH YEAH so TL;DR iamperfection is definitely town


You've made me laugh for so many different reasons this game bh
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 20 2012 23:10 GMT
#3391
So here's where I'm at amongst the unconfirmed townies:

Definitely town: iamp, kick
probably town: dp
Lynch: SnB, Clarity, Drojef

I'm gonna sit down again with each of SnB, Clarity and Drojef, then make my vote.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 20 2012 23:10 GMT
#3392
On November 21 2012 07:51 iamperfection wrote:
I'm gonna guess djos vote isn't going to change since he is asleep?


No, I'm just waking up. I have to catch up with the thread and I'll see if I have to reconsider.
I'll be at work at the deadline though so I'll check from my phone
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 20 2012 23:11 GMT
#3393
On November 21 2012 08:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 08:09 Blazinghand wrote:
OH YEAH so TL;DR iamperfection is definitely town


You've made me laugh for so many different reasons this game bh


what can I say I am quite the jokester
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 20 2012 23:18 GMT
#3394
On November 21 2012 08:10 Blazinghand wrote:
So here's where I'm at amongst the unconfirmed townies:

Definitely town: iamp, kick
probably town: dp
Lynch: SnB, Clarity, Drojef

I'm gonna sit down again with each of SnB, Clarity and Drojef, then make my vote.


I like how you mispell my name on purpose but I have to ask you to call me Djo now
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 20 2012 23:18 GMT
#3395
teeeeeaaammuuuuuuu liqqqqquiiiiddduduuuuuuu maffiffffiiiiuuuuuuuu
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 20 2012 23:19 GMT
#3396
For what it's worth I try to spell your name right but after spelling it wrong so many times somehow the wrong spelling "seems" more right than the right spelling. But I'll get it right this time: Djodref
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 20 2012 23:20 GMT
#3397
But yeah so kickstart, iamp town-- just one more town read and we auto-win by lynching the three scummy players, ez towne
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 20 2012 23:21 GMT
#3398
yeah so

if you guys want to lynch me so i can go play chrono trigger, i won't mind

clarity is the scum tho
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2012 23:21 GMT
#3399
On November 21 2012 08:21 strongandbig wrote:
yeah so

if you guys want to lynch me so i can go play chrono trigger, i won't mind

clarity is the scum tho

You'll play both games and you'll like it.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 23:22 GMT
#3400
Djo should be your third town read, unless something changes about him in the coming days.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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