Newbie Mini Mafia XXX - Page 13

On November 03 2012 13:00 Djodref wrote:
@ Cheese

I'm pretty sure that the following quote was totally serving your mafia agenda in the last game. But I guess I should better trust you because I don't really see why you should be dishonest right now about it.



Let's take a look at the second one





I don't know if you have seen Rad post or not before posting yours but I really felt that you were both accusing me of active lurking. Why the lolwut by the way ? What did you not understand in my comment ?

On November 03 2012 13:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
Okay re-reading your post you're saying we shouldn't focus on one/two people, instead considering everyone and not consolidate on a lynch?

On November 03 2012 13:06 Djodref wrote:


@ debears

Did I answer your question ? I'm not sure which one you were talking about. I guessed it was the one about "why cheese and not me?"
I need to go to attend a wedding at Souel Gardien Hoteal soon so I would like to know you have more questions.

On November 03 2012 13:11 Djodref wrote:


@ Clarity

Exactly, I think you everyone should just vote for his top scumread while giving enough reason to do so and then we start again from there and see who is likely to be lynched, be it 2 or 3 players.
I think it's the best way to use plurality lynch. Considering only 2 possibilities narrows the discussion and allows mafia players to have some excuse to lynch town (cf Cheese last game lynching daoud in the daoud/ini match-up).
The downfall is that the end of the day could be a bit messy.

On November 03 2012 13:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


@Djo

The second part of the first quote isn't a joke. It's an analogy. Therefore it has nothing to do with anything.

The second quote: Pokemon reference, it means I think of you as a pokemon. Pokemon are innocent and cute; I'm not casting aspersions on you in the least. Yes, @obsQT I just mentioned pokemon.

We could go with this WIFOM crap all day. These "jokes" means absolutely nothing.

Are we seriously still talking about a failboat joke? Stop this incessant attempt to tunnel me--it bears no weight at all because it is probably one of the most subjective things one could possibly focus on. Especially since it's coming from another game entirely.

I declare this useless argument over *gavel slam*.

On November 03 2012 13:22 debears wrote:


seriously.....why are we having to explain this?

1) Scumhunt
2) Vote for your top scumread
3) When the voting comes down to 2 candidates and lynch is near, pick one of two said candidates and give reasoning why you're voting them

Is that clear enough for all of you to understand?
Please stop talking about policy

On November 03 2012 12:13 Djodref wrote:


@ Cheese

Ok, you had motivations for doing this joke but it doesn't really help town while it could be done with mafia motivation. And, at least, I'm trying to dig something. Would you prefer me to discuss how we should use plurality lynch ?

On November 03 2012 13:23 Djodref wrote:


@ Cheese

I'll stop tunneling you when I'm satisfied with your answers. Why do you want us to stop discussing ?
This discussion has derived from its original point to go something quite useless, I agree. My point is that you could have used these jokes to make me look bad. I know this was a pokemon reference but I think "a wild Djo appears" was implying active lurking, especially in the context of the thread, rather than implying that I was innocent as a pokemon.

My point is that jokes can be used by mafia to cast suspicion on a player without looking like you are doing it. It's a great tool used this way.

On November 03 2012 13:22 debears wrote:


seriously.....why are we having to explain this?

1) Scumhunt
2) Vote for your top scumread
3) When the voting comes down to 2 candidates and lynch is near, pick one of two said candidates and give reasoning why you're voting them

Is that clear enough for all of you to understand?
Please stop talking about policy

On November 03 2012 13:25 Clarity_nl wrote:


Because he mentioned it here:


Which got me curious what he had to say on the subject. Turns out the answer is nothing new.
Which begs the question: Why did he mention it in the first place?

On November 03 2012 13:26 Djodref wrote:


@ debears

My point is that it would benefit us to consider more than 2 candidates for the lynch. Anyway it's too late to discuss about it now, I was just answering Clarity's question about it. By the way it's not policy, it's lynch mechanics

On November 03 2012 13:28 debears wrote:


Clarity, I think it was meant to be read as more of this:

Do you want me to push something and try to get the thread going, or do you want me to talk about useless policy?

Would you agree with that?

On November 03 2012 11:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Policies are just a basis for thinking. They shouldn't be committal.

On November 03 2012 13:23 Djodref wrote:


@ Cheese

I'll stop tunneling you when I'm satisfied with your answers. Why do you want us to stop discussing ?
This discussion has derived from its original point to go something quite useless, I agree. My point is that you could have used these jokes to make me look bad. I know this was a pokemon reference but I think "a wild Djo appears" was implying active lurking, especially in the context of the thread, rather than implying that I was innocent as a pokemon.

My point is that jokes can be used by mafia to cast suspicion on a player without looking like you are doing it. It's a great tool used this way.

On November 03 2012 13:30 Clarity_nl wrote:


I.... didn't even consider that. Yes, that actually makes much more sense.

On November 03 2012 13:31 debears wrote:
Very well Clarity,

anything else that you find jumps out weird so far?

On November 03 2012 10:32 Obzy wrote:
Wouldn't making a lurker-lynch policy be somewhat counterproductive? Like - lynching lurkers, that sounds smart. But if it's "policy", then everyone knows not to lurk - so there wouldn't be a lynch on lurkers - and if there was, why the heck would mafia be lurking? It's more like lynching the people with the least time, as long as everybody is at least somewhat active.

If that makes any sense ._.;

On November 03 2012 10:36 Obzy wrote:
Right - no; I agree with that - I guess I was caught on the wording. Describing it as a policy lynch made it sound like there wouldn't be much discussion on the matter which sounded counterproductive.

On November 03 2012 10:36 Obzy wrote:
Sheesh this thread moves fast I need to start quoting o_o; I write a post and there's 3 replies above me.

On November 03 2012 10:40 Obzy wrote:
In that case, sounds good. I agree. Regarding Alsn's post... It kinda looks like he's responding like that just cause you said pulling an Alsn? I guess? Or trying to goad some sort of discussion.

On November 03 2012 11:17 Obzy wrote:
@debears - Your reaction really does seem out of place, when I'm rereading. I've been refreshing constantly, trying to read everything and make a useful post, but nothing really seemed like it would contribute to a discussion, and I don't want to have pointless posts for the sake of "being active". Contributing, not spamming.

Upon looking at it that way, your posts and being interested in Alsn's word choice is surprisingly defensive. Given that there wasn't really any way for other players to pop their heads in and comment without semi-defusing the situation saying "it wasn't that big of a deal", why hold onto it? Quite specifically, - why ask something like that? I didn't really think it worth paying any mind to, but you kept going on it.

(And now, just above, you're asking djo why he didn't get involved in your argument - I didn't want to get involved either, it seemed largely purposeless.)

jesus i type this post, read for spelling mistakes, reopen a new browser to make sure i'm not missing some sort of new information and fucking blammo like 5 posts

On November 03 2012 12:34 Obzy wrote:
I don't think that getting a read off of whether or not Cheese has a joking tone or not really means anything at all. At least, the fact that he's aware of it means that he could manipulate it either way.

On November 03 2012 13:36 Clarity_nl wrote:


Last three pages was djo, you and me. Still no word from da0ud and sylver.
I think you are wrong in saying Obzy is useless. He might not have posted a lot but he makes good points or asks decent questions when he does, maybe you feel that way because he's biggest post is directed at you?