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Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 03 2012 03:08 GMT
#201
@djo

I don't think there's too much mafia motivation in throwing out 1 joke this early in day 1, especially with us all coming from the other game and it being a pretty friendly environment at the moment. I'd consider it the pre-game bleeding into the real game. I'm sure we will all start hating each other soon enough.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 03 2012 03:09 GMT
#202
On November 03 2012 12:07 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:02 Djodref wrote:
It is confusing, especially when you are attacking the same guy over semantics just after your joke. It could be also a nice way to influence our read on debears while looking clean.
I agree that he was making a joke but please consider the motivations for it.

Town motivations
I don't see town motivations for making a joke about a scumtell

Mafia motivations
Creates confusion and disturbs the thread. Allows to influence our read on debears while looking clean


You have to be kidding me. Cheese jokes a lot. Did you not read the scum qt from last game?
The motivation from both perspectives is to have fun, especially early d1 when there's nothing to talk about.

"Influence your read on debears". Really? Its early day 1. You all have plenty of time to read me.. ill have a big filter most likely.

That's bullshit. Scummy bullshit


Please expand on the bolded part of your post I quoted debears.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 03:12 GMT
#203
On November 03 2012 12:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:07 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:02 Djodref wrote:
It is confusing, especially when you are attacking the same guy over semantics just after your joke. It could be also a nice way to influence our read on debears while looking clean.
I agree that he was making a joke but please consider the motivations for it.

Town motivations
I don't see town motivations for making a joke about a scumtell

Mafia motivations
Creates confusion and disturbs the thread. Allows to influence our read on debears while looking clean


You have to be kidding me. Cheese jokes a lot. Did you not read the scum qt from last game?
The motivation from both perspectives is to have fun, especially early d1 when there's nothing to talk about.

"Influence your read on debears". Really? Its early day 1. You all have plenty of time to read me.. ill have a big filter most likely.

That's bullshit. Scummy bullshit


Please expand on the bolded part of your post I quoted debears.


D1 starts out with nothing to actually talk about. That's why policy is a starter in newbies. Everything starts out of complete nothingness in terms of accusations
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 03:13 GMT
#204
On November 03 2012 12:08 Rad wrote:
@djo

I don't think there's too much mafia motivation in throwing out 1 joke this early in day 1, especially with us all coming from the other game and it being a pretty friendly environment at the moment. I'd consider it the pre-game bleeding into the real game. I'm sure we will all start hating each other soon enough.


Rad cheeses joking is a null tell. Check the scum qt from last game. Its his personality
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 03 2012 03:13 GMT
#205
On November 03 2012 12:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:02 Djodref wrote:
It is confusing, especially when you are attacking the same guy over semantics just after your joke. It could be also a nice way to influence our read on debears while looking clean.
I agree that he was making a joke but please consider the motivations for it.

Town motivations
I don't see town motivations for making a joke about a scumtell

Mafia motivations
Creates confusion and disturbs the thread. Allows to influence our read on debears while looking clean


You also neglect to realize that my joke was in a RESPONSE to his joke. (I don't wear hats). You're really trying to dig where there is nothing.


@ Cheese

Ok, you had motivations for doing this joke but it doesn't really help town while it could be done with mafia motivation. And, at least, I'm trying to dig something. Would you prefer me to discuss how we should use plurality lynch ?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 03:14 GMT
#206
Ebwop

Its not really the pregame. He literally jokes and is pretty funny
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 03 2012 03:15 GMT
#207
On November 03 2012 11:54 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:52 Djodref wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.


Howso?


Mafia usually wear hats. He's so adamant that he most certainly does NOT wear a hat. Therefore, scumtell.


@ Cheesecake

Please refrain from joking when talking about scumtells. It's confusing.

FoS Cheese


Yeah. Definitely unwarranted fos

FOS Djo

1) he was joking
2) it was obvious he was joking
3) it wasnt confusing


@ debears

So, it's ok for you to be aggressive in the early game but it's not ok for me ? Would you say that joking about scumtells is ok ?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 03:15 GMT
#208
On November 03 2012 12:13 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:02 Djodref wrote:
It is confusing, especially when you are attacking the same guy over semantics just after your joke. It could be also a nice way to influence our read on debears while looking clean.
I agree that he was making a joke but please consider the motivations for it.

Town motivations
I don't see town motivations for making a joke about a scumtell

Mafia motivations
Creates confusion and disturbs the thread. Allows to influence our read on debears while looking clean


You also neglect to realize that my joke was in a RESPONSE to his joke. (I don't wear hats). You're really trying to dig where there is nothing.


@ Cheese

Ok, you had motivations for doing this joke but it doesn't really help town while it could be done with mafia motivation. And, at least, I'm trying to dig something. Would you prefer me to discuss how we should use plurality lynch ?


Dig something up? Why? Because you have nothing to actually accuse people with since you're scum?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 03 2012 03:16 GMT
#209
On November 03 2012 12:12 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:07 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:02 Djodref wrote:
It is confusing, especially when you are attacking the same guy over semantics just after your joke. It could be also a nice way to influence our read on debears while looking clean.
I agree that he was making a joke but please consider the motivations for it.

Town motivations
I don't see town motivations for making a joke about a scumtell

Mafia motivations
Creates confusion and disturbs the thread. Allows to influence our read on debears while looking clean


You have to be kidding me. Cheese jokes a lot. Did you not read the scum qt from last game?
The motivation from both perspectives is to have fun, especially early d1 when there's nothing to talk about.

"Influence your read on debears". Really? Its early day 1. You all have plenty of time to read me.. ill have a big filter most likely.

That's bullshit. Scummy bullshit


Please expand on the bolded part of your post I quoted debears.


D1 starts out with nothing to actually talk about. That's why policy is a starter in newbies. Everything starts out of complete nothingness in terms of accusations


Okay, but you just meant early D1 right, not the entirety of it? It seems rather odd to go: "Yeah we should just joke around for now"

On November 03 2012 12:13 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:08 Rad wrote:
@djo

I don't think there's too much mafia motivation in throwing out 1 joke this early in day 1, especially with us all coming from the other game and it being a pretty friendly environment at the moment. I'd consider it the pre-game bleeding into the real game. I'm sure we will all start hating each other soon enough.


Rad cheeses joking is a null tell. Check the scum qt from last game. Its his personality


He kept it to the QT though, he was serious in the thread, as he pointed out.
We shouldn't try to meta read someone with a sample size of 1, but he is acting quite different than last game, and he was scum in that.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#210
On November 03 2012 12:15 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:54 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:52 Djodref wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.


Howso?


Mafia usually wear hats. He's so adamant that he most certainly does NOT wear a hat. Therefore, scumtell.


@ Cheesecake

Please refrain from joking when talking about scumtells. It's confusing.

FoS Cheese


Yeah. Definitely unwarranted fos

FOS Djo

1) he was joking
2) it was obvious he was joking
3) it wasnt confusing


@ debears

So, it's ok for you to be aggressive in the early game but it's not ok for me ? Would you say that joking about scumtells is ok ?


Its not your aggression that bothers me. Its your reasoning, which is shitty. And yeah its ok. He joked at me. I joked at him. He joked back again when the thread wasnt really moving. Its his personality
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#211
@debears

I don't remember too many jokes from cheese throughout last game. Just pregame. Oh, and his "Sandy" response to the hurricane question. Anyway, it doesn't matter, I get a null read from his joke.

@djo

Why are you bringing up the idea of a discussion on plurality lynch? That's not even in our control, is it? Host said plurality, so it's plurality, end of story, unless I'm missing something?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 03:20 GMT
#212
On November 03 2012 12:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:12 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:07 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:02 Djodref wrote:
It is confusing, especially when you are attacking the same guy over semantics just after your joke. It could be also a nice way to influence our read on debears while looking clean.
I agree that he was making a joke but please consider the motivations for it.

Town motivations
I don't see town motivations for making a joke about a scumtell

Mafia motivations
Creates confusion and disturbs the thread. Allows to influence our read on debears while looking clean


You have to be kidding me. Cheese jokes a lot. Did you not read the scum qt from last game?
The motivation from both perspectives is to have fun, especially early d1 when there's nothing to talk about.

"Influence your read on debears". Really? Its early day 1. You all have plenty of time to read me.. ill have a big filter most likely.

That's bullshit. Scummy bullshit


Please expand on the bolded part of your post I quoted debears.


D1 starts out with nothing to actually talk about. That's why policy is a starter in newbies. Everything starts out of complete nothingness in terms of accusations


Okay, but you just meant early D1 right, not the entirety of it? It seems rather odd to go: "Yeah we should just joke around for now"

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:13 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:08 Rad wrote:
@djo

I don't think there's too much mafia motivation in throwing out 1 joke this early in day 1, especially with us all coming from the other game and it being a pretty friendly environment at the moment. I'd consider it the pre-game bleeding into the real game. I'm sure we will all start hating each other soon enough.


Rad cheeses joking is a null tell. Check the scum qt from last game. Its his personality


He kept it to the QT though, he was serious in the thread, as he pointed out.
We shouldn't try to meta read someone with a sample size of 1, but he is acting quite different than last game, and he was scum in that.


So if he's scum and he didn't joke in the game (which he did) while joking in the qt a lot, wouldnt you say he is being more genuine, which is a townie trait?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 03:21 GMT
#213
On November 03 2012 12:17 Rad wrote:
@debears

I don't remember too many jokes from cheese throughout last game. Just pregame. Oh, and his "Sandy" response to the hurricane question. Anyway, it doesn't matter, I get a null read from his joke.

@djo

Why are you bringing up the idea of a discussion on plurality lynch? That's not even in our control, is it? Host said plurality, so it's plurality, end of story, unless I'm missing something?


He did joke in game. I can't quote on my phone. Here are some from memory

"Holy meta argument batbears"
"A wild djo appears"
"Lurkerception"
"Why djodref is scum : a compilation of quotes by mr. Cheesecake"
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 03 2012 03:23 GMT
#214
On November 03 2012 12:15 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:13 Djodref wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:02 Djodref wrote:
It is confusing, especially when you are attacking the same guy over semantics just after your joke. It could be also a nice way to influence our read on debears while looking clean.
I agree that he was making a joke but please consider the motivations for it.

Town motivations
I don't see town motivations for making a joke about a scumtell

Mafia motivations
Creates confusion and disturbs the thread. Allows to influence our read on debears while looking clean


You also neglect to realize that my joke was in a RESPONSE to his joke. (I don't wear hats). You're really trying to dig where there is nothing.


@ Cheese

Ok, you had motivations for doing this joke but it doesn't really help town while it could be done with mafia motivation. And, at least, I'm trying to dig something. Would you prefer me to discuss how we should use plurality lynch ?


Dig something up? Why? Because you have nothing to actually accuse people with since you're scum?


I've clearly explained the mafia motivations I've found for his joke. I'm far to be able to be certain of Cheese alignment but he is leaning slightly scummy right now, hence the FoS. It's also a warning for him to not joke about scum tells in the future.
I find you very jumpy and very prompt to call me scum. Are you seriously that sure of my alignment this early in the game ? Why so aggressive ?
Could you explain me your motivations ?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 03 2012 03:23 GMT
#215
On November 03 2012 12:06 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 10:50 Djodref wrote:
@ debaers

I don't think this one deserves a FoS. When Alsn says that it is technically a lie, that's just Alsn arguing about math and logic.

On November 03 2012 11:52 Djodref wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.


Howso?


Mafia usually wear hats. He's so adamant that he most certainly does NOT wear a hat. Therefore, scumtell.


@ Cheesecake

Please refrain from joking when talking about scumtells. It's confusing.

FoS Cheese


The logic is strong with this one.


@ Cheese

I was re-reading the thread and I really didn't like this "it's a scumtell" joke. I'm not against jokes but scumtells are quite serious business. I've got my eyes on you.


There is no reason to tell us that you were reading the thread. We should know you are. This is the exact thing that Nack picked up about my scumplay last game.

"This game is serious business" It's a couple hours into the first day, and most of the thread isn't even around. You're really trying to come off as town by plucking this insignificant little fact that everyone else giggled about and passed on by.

And - mafia motivation for making a joke? We should get some George Carlins as scum if there is mafia motivation for making someone snicker a little.

Also: My humor was mainly kept to the QT last game. Only a few stupid things in the thread were let through. /Engagecheesecakeseriousmode
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 03 2012 03:27 GMT
#216
On November 03 2012 12:20 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:12 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:07 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:02 Djodref wrote:
It is confusing, especially when you are attacking the same guy over semantics just after your joke. It could be also a nice way to influence our read on debears while looking clean.
I agree that he was making a joke but please consider the motivations for it.

Town motivations
I don't see town motivations for making a joke about a scumtell

Mafia motivations
Creates confusion and disturbs the thread. Allows to influence our read on debears while looking clean


You have to be kidding me. Cheese jokes a lot. Did you not read the scum qt from last game?
The motivation from both perspectives is to have fun, especially early d1 when there's nothing to talk about.

"Influence your read on debears". Really? Its early day 1. You all have plenty of time to read me.. ill have a big filter most likely.

That's bullshit. Scummy bullshit


Please expand on the bolded part of your post I quoted debears.


D1 starts out with nothing to actually talk about. That's why policy is a starter in newbies. Everything starts out of complete nothingness in terms of accusations


Okay, but you just meant early D1 right, not the entirety of it? It seems rather odd to go: "Yeah we should just joke around for now"

On November 03 2012 12:13 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:08 Rad wrote:
@djo

I don't think there's too much mafia motivation in throwing out 1 joke this early in day 1, especially with us all coming from the other game and it being a pretty friendly environment at the moment. I'd consider it the pre-game bleeding into the real game. I'm sure we will all start hating each other soon enough.


Rad cheeses joking is a null tell. Check the scum qt from last game. Its his personality


He kept it to the QT though, he was serious in the thread, as he pointed out.
We shouldn't try to meta read someone with a sample size of 1, but he is acting quite different than last game, and he was scum in that.


So if he's scum and he didn't joke in the game (which he did) while joking in the qt a lot, wouldnt you say he is being more genuine, which is a townie trait?


Why are defending cheese's personality this game? We all get he's a funny guy and likes to joke. We only have 1 game from him to go on, and a scum QT. He could be acting different here for a variety of reasons. Why do you want us to get a town read on him just from being more genuine this game?

Town motivation:

Be more open and honest and townie.

Scum motivation:

Everyone knows his real personality now from the scum QT, he needs to switch it up or we'll be suspicious.

It's a null tell. Why are you pushing the idea that it's a town tell?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 03 2012 03:28 GMT
#217
On November 03 2012 12:17 Rad wrote:
@debears

I don't remember too many jokes from cheese throughout last game. Just pregame. Oh, and his "Sandy" response to the hurricane question. Anyway, it doesn't matter, I get a null read from his joke.

@djo

Why are you bringing up the idea of a discussion on plurality lynch? That's not even in our control, is it? Host said plurality, so it's plurality, end of story, unless I'm missing something?


@ Rad

It was sarcastic. I wanted us to discuss how we should use the mechanics of the plurality lynch at our advantage in this game but I think that the time for discussing this king of thing is over. I wanted Cheesecake to understand, if he is town, that I could also spark some discussion with this FoS.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 03:29 GMT
#218
On November 03 2012 12:23 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:15 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:13 Djodref wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:02 Djodref wrote:
It is confusing, especially when you are attacking the same guy over semantics just after your joke. It could be also a nice way to influence our read on debears while looking clean.
I agree that he was making a joke but please consider the motivations for it.

Town motivations
I don't see town motivations for making a joke about a scumtell

Mafia motivations
Creates confusion and disturbs the thread. Allows to influence our read on debears while looking clean


You also neglect to realize that my joke was in a RESPONSE to his joke. (I don't wear hats). You're really trying to dig where there is nothing.


@ Cheese

Ok, you had motivations for doing this joke but it doesn't really help town while it could be done with mafia motivation. And, at least, I'm trying to dig something. Would you prefer me to discuss how we should use plurality lynch ?


Dig something up? Why? Because you have nothing to actually accuse people with since you're scum?


I've clearly explained the mafia motivations I've found for his joke. I'm far to be able to be certain of Cheese alignment but he is leaning slightly scummy right now, hence the FoS. It's also a warning for him to not joke about scum tells in the future.
I find you very jumpy and very prompt to call me scum. Are you seriously that sure of my alignment this early in the game ? Why so aggressive ?
Could you explain me your motivations ?


You're only part of motivations was that he would be trying to cause confusions, yet you disregard his personality, which is the cause of his jokes. They are a null read.

I'm not certain you're scum at all. I'm being aggressive to get answers. I'm being aggressive to kickstart this thread and actuallu start talking about who is scum.

That post is silly. You call me "jumpy". I'm being active. I didn't suddenly come out of nowhere and jump on you. I jumped on alsn early on. So what?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 03 2012 03:29 GMT
#219
On November 03 2012 12:21 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:17 Rad wrote:
@debears

I don't remember too many jokes from cheese throughout last game. Just pregame. Oh, and his "Sandy" response to the hurricane question. Anyway, it doesn't matter, I get a null read from his joke.

@djo

Why are you bringing up the idea of a discussion on plurality lynch? That's not even in our control, is it? Host said plurality, so it's plurality, end of story, unless I'm missing something?


He did joke in game. I can't quote on my phone. Here are some from memory

"Holy meta argument batbears"
"A wild djo appears"
"Lurkerception"
"Why djodref is scum : a compilation of quotes by mr. Cheesecake"


@ debears

You just have showed that he was using jokes when they were serving his scum agenda.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 03 2012 03:30 GMT
#220
On November 03 2012 12:28 Djodref wrote:
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On November 03 2012 12:17 Rad wrote:
@debears

I don't remember too many jokes from cheese throughout last game. Just pregame. Oh, and his "Sandy" response to the hurricane question. Anyway, it doesn't matter, I get a null read from his joke.

@djo

Why are you bringing up the idea of a discussion on plurality lynch? That's not even in our control, is it? Host said plurality, so it's plurality, end of story, unless I'm missing something?


@ Rad

It was sarcastic. I wanted us to discuss how we should use the mechanics of the plurality lynch at our advantage in this game but I think that the time for discussing this king of thing is over. I wanted Cheesecake to understand, if he is town, that I could also spark some discussion with this FoS.


You're being internet sarcastic (read: confusing) right after giving cheese a hard time for being obviously joking (read: not confusing)?
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