On November 06 2012 05:56 Promethelax wrote:Dp starts with Meta reads on Kush. Fair enough since we really can’t do better on him. I happen like Kush as a guy but playing with him has a 100% success rate at giving me migraines so I’m happy to look at him through a meta lens and ignore all his posts after that.
DP doesn’t do that though, he gives his meta read and makes a big deal out of it. This begins his long standing tradition of attempting to buddy the weaker players in this game.
After Muso claims DP is at first slightly accusative and calls out Muso as scum BEFORE any of the shenanies are revealed.
Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 12:54 DarthPunk wrote:On November 01 2012 12:44 Muso wrote:
I'm still at the start of page 6 sorry. Just read that you wanted claims so I thought I'd give you my info in while I read the rest so we can get going.
Kush got mason's and millers confused. It was probably a bad idea to claim.
Unless you are scum and are claiming with no proof. Do you have a breadcrumb? If I am reading this right he is saying that unless Muso has a BC (which obviously he doesn’t since that was his first post) he is probably scum. This seems like a decent way to try to force Muso to claim his partner and, if he refuses, to push him as scum. Remember at this point we had no real reason to doubt his claim (albeit it was an odd one).
Now, after suggesting that Muso is scum DP comes out with
Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 13:00 DarthPunk wrote:
Well. Let's just wait till he finishes reading the thread and see shall we?
Which is a buddying attempt mixed with a clear town read. “no guys, this guy seems legit, back off him for a minute” this is a direct contradiction of his earlier post.
Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 13:07 DarthPunk wrote:On November 01 2012 13:04 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 01 2012 13:00 DarthPunk wrote:
Well. Let's just wait till he finishes reading the thread and see shall we?
see what? lol.. i guess all we can really do is wait for his hypothetical mason partner to help him decide whether he wasnts to claim or not
should we ask him to claim his 2nd partner?
I honestly just don't know lol, quite baffled by the claim tbh... but my instincts are saying that he's telling the truth. seems like it'd be a really fucking bad move for scum to make
To see WTF is going on hopefully.
I am unsure if his second partner should claim if he even exists. I doubt he could verify his claim without his second partner however. And even if he did claim without breadcrumbs it could just be a mass fake claim.
This is pretty bad IMO.
Looking at DP’s next post I try to see the townie motivation for insisting that this claim is fake, sure some doubt is good but, again, there is no reason to be up in arms about this claim while, once again, DP fishes for the partner claim. Now I read this as a red move by DP but I could be good ole fashioned green Cartesian radical doubt (who knew philosophy would be helpful for mafia). Dp next says that Muso fake claim is terribad
Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 13:09 DarthPunk wrote:On November 01 2012 13:07 Release wrote:
Sounds like bait from Muso. Wants me to push the agenda with which i have already parted.
Muso...
WTF are you talking about. You realise that if he was scum trying to mislynch you with a fake mason claim that would be almost as retarded as claiming unaware nosy neighbour right?
Even though he had made it clear that he was doubting the claim himself. In his next post on the Muso situation he
Promises to vote Muso for fake claiming even though he has already said that 1) Fake claim as Scum is hurr durr and 2) release looks so pants-shittingly scummy it isn’t even funny.
When Release switches onto Draz (release who was sooo scummy) DP says he’d be down with hitting draz in reply to Release. How did DP’s top scum read suddenly get sheeped? Even though DP would be up for a Draz lynch he votes Muso.
There were three candidates d1 and DP was happy to lynch any of them. This ambivalence to the lynch makes him seem quite scummy (though since he was opposed to lynching me it will also make me look scummy if he flips red). The thing is he doesn’t even post on me until n1 when I am no longer a lynch candidate.
Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:
Welp. Muso got himself lynched by fake claiming for no fucking reason then playing dumb and then not playing dumb. All in all he played pretty dumb.
I am super hungover and TL went down Whilst I caught up. But I have a few reads.
Despite prplz looking scummy to many, It is my policy to judge replacement on their actions and not those of their predecessor. And prome has been very pro town IMO. Obviously I am worried as I heard that in his newbie scum game he looked very pro town also.
I am concerned at acro tunnelling prom despite prom looking very townie to me. And the fact that it is based on a few bad posts from prplz irks me.
My biggest scum reads from my cursory glance of the thread are Drazak and release. I plan to go into filters and take a look around presently.
If anyone has any questions for me or would like my perspective on anything feel free to ask. I currently don't have the grasp on this game that I would usually like so some discussion would be rewarding I feel.
OK that's it. Im going do more reading in between LOL games.
Why does this post start with that description? DP makes this lynch Muso’s fault even though he, DP, was on this lynch. This is a very obvious attempt to distance himself from a townie lynch which has a clear scum agenda behind it.
After all this he blah blah blahs about his party and hates on lists (which sure, are awful)
On November 04 2012 02:47 DP says he’ll be more involved and that his weekend wilds are behind him. That was a lie though I don’t know whether to ascribe it to town wanting to be more involved and fialing or to scum lying to skate by. Null tell.
DP jumps on Kush for a mistake in Kush’s posting where Kush says that he thinks that Muso is town and votes him. I think it was clear if you had read the thread up until that point that what Kush thought was that all the lynch candidates were town but that Muso had the best chance to flip red.
DP jumps on that mistake like a slutty girl on a dick and rides it for all he is worth. But as soon as Kush says what he meant DP is off him again. DP is trying to find a place where his focus can stick but no one seems quite scummy enough.
DP also fails to read Acro’s reasons for voting me and lumps Acro in with Kush as using a flavour reason, obviously not Acro’s reasoning.
DP actions next follow two paths 1) telling Kush to stop with his flavour theory and 2) defending me
Those are scummy actions right there. DP spams 1 for 1 with kush every time Kush says something about flavour DP tells him to stop. Spam.
When I am called scum he passionately defends me. Still buddying weak players.
DP get incredibly defensive when I call him out for buddying me,
Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 22:55 DarthPunk wrote:On November 04 2012 22:05 Promethelax wrote:
ebwop: follow up. DP, why are you buddying me this hard? You are the only one with a stated town read of me. We have played together before, you know me, but so do a lot of these other guys and some of the people coming after me must be town (I can't imagine a full mafia team going after me as a group, I'm just not worth it).
How is it that you have such a town read on me when literally no one else in this game does (or has stated it).
I am not buddying you. I know your town meta. And this game you are coming off strongly town to me. I am frankly astounded others can't/choose not to see it. I don;t give a fuck what you think of me to be honest. I don't want to mislynch. I think we will mislynch an active townie if we lynch you so i want to stop that.
And injects what felt at the time like fake emotion into his post. Re-reading it I get that same feeling.
So while DP feels less scummy to me than Fuba I could consolidate unto him to ensure a lynch. His play has been indicative of what is either a totally confused townie or a scummy scum. It is easier for me to believe that DP is playing scum scummily than it is to see him as a bad town. As such he is in my red column.
I see that he has posted again during my write-up. I am interested to see that I am his best town read (I assume since he’ll vote for “anyone else”) and I’d like to ask:
DP, why is it that I am more townie than anyone else in this game to you? Is this still a meta argument?
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