Newbie Mini Mafia XXIX

On October 26 2012 22:41 da0ud wrote:
Ebwop : sorry phone posting. Ill finsih the post :

Deb and rad have been so active and poking at each otjers that they actually look very townie to me. Pushing ideas, bringing content, putting pressure.

Talking about smileyDjo he has put a lot of pressure on people. Asking open questions etc. For having played a game with him where he played to nice lovable newbie card, I believe he is trying to step up and actually be a leader for town. I put him 90% town.

I totally hate the lurkers who actually do not post anything and hide to avoid potential suspicions. Id rather lynch lurking townie first day who doesn't help get info and push others to scumslip.

If scum are among active player we will have time to hunt them down. They will contradict themselves.

And we have semi lurkers like roco or blending ini. Which are pretty much as bad for town.

I would like to put my vote on Ini at the moment cause roco seems like a total newbie trying to stand out.

##Vote Ini

I totally hate the lurkers who actually do not post anything and hide to avoid potential suspicions. Id rather lynch lurking townie first day who doesn't help get info and push others to scumslip.

On October 27 2012 00:51 Djodref wrote:
@Kush

Debears and Rad are looking quite ok. I'm leaning town for both of them. I'm waiting for Cheese to post what he has to say about me because I'm still null on him.

I didn't like some posts from sylver but he had some nice reactions during our latest fight.
I need some time to look at dandel. I didn't like the way he voted Inig, but he said he was not sure even.

I would say sylver right now...

But I've been spending too much time defending myself. I need to calm down and re-read some filters for a while.

On October 14 2012 15:58 da0ud wrote:
Sorry just caught up on the chat and am currently hiking close to china border so poor network.

One first thing on my vote against San is at the time as default choice between two people I found scummy.
I found more content on sand than on the lurker ON. And at the time I put my votes there was already 11 votes on san. I was following the crowd.
Overnight the defense of Sand got pretty intense and sure would I have shifted my votes towards ON, not that it would have made a difference anyway.
Even if it is not confirmed I am fairly sure Sand is town cause he put his votes on ON to go to the final which would not make sense for a scum to push another scum to face him in finals.
At this stage I am pretty sure as well mementoss is scum. I already put it as second scum read from the round of 4 but now put him as top read.

On October 27 2012 09:50 debears wrote:
LOL. I really need a breathe of fresh pony mafia air :D

On October 28 2012 00:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
So you're saying, his meta is actually the same to you? After you tried to make it out as if there was some huge meta divergence?

Right. I call Bullshit, Kushyboy.

On October 28 2012 00:04 debears wrote:



Wowwowowowowo. Kush mentioning not getting nked again. Did it his last two newbies as scum.

On October 28 2012 01:43 Djodref wrote:
Also if anyone has some questions regarding my case, it might be a good time to discuss about it now
So if you have some points against me that you feel that I didn't correctly addressed,
I have a feeling that you guys are considering defense as important as scumhunting so I'm willing to defend myself as much as I can now.

@ Kush

I'm not totally sold on you being scum right now: there is still a possibility for you to be town in my opinion.

@ everyone
I would recommend everyone to be wary because it could be very easy for mafia to mislynch Kush right now if he is town. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I was mafia in my last game and we benefited from the greatest mislynch ever on D2 because nobody took the time to think about the lynch twice.

On October 28 2012 03:56 Dandel Ion wrote:

What?
He played an ENTIRE game, with debears IN his scumteam, both surviving the whole game.

And you just believe him, because .... Hell, I don't know why you would. You sure as hell didn't say.
Really...

On October 28 2012 04:12 Rad wrote:
@kush







You /obs and then drop /obs JUST in case you get the chance to replace someone.

You've replaced someone. You're in! You can talk to mr. cheesecake now!

Why haven't you said one thing to him or about him yet?

On October 28 2012 04:16 Rad wrote:


But you /obs'd, and then asked to be removed for the sole reason of wanting to play with mr. cheesecake.

It makes no sense that you wouldn't at the very lease say something to him when you finally get the chance to play the game for the sole reason you wanted to play the game.

On October 27 2012 01:13 debears wrote:
@Djo

On Alsn

The main part of Alsn's case is his meta and his FOS on you.

In terms of meta, Alsn has not been fitting his activity and involvement of the last game when he was town. However, he has stated suitable IRL reasons and has recently picked up his activity level with his active discussion with others. Right now, his meta is a null tell.

Then, with the FOS. I believe his FOS was suitable. He was wishy washy quite a bit last game. It seems to me more indicative of his looking at both sides of the motivation behind posts.

Alsn is a null read right now. I expect him to pick up his activity level day 2. If he doesn't, then we can do something about it. Lynching him today is a poor option.

On October 28 2012 08:02 Rad wrote:


Ahh yeah, I see.



@Kush, why wouldn't debears make a good coach?

On October 25 2012 13:47 sylverfyre wrote:
Also geez, as much as I like lynch a Lurker... isn't it a bit early? We're like 10% into day 1! If someone's still lurking when we're getting closer to lynch time, I could be convinced, but I feel like policy lynching lurkers should be something to resort to if we can't find anyone else being sketchy.

With that, I'm going to bed. I'll be around most of tomorrow!

On October 26 2012 21:35 sylverfyre wrote:
Running under the assumption that imcasey and Roco get modkilled if they don't show up, I'd lynch Djo. You say Inig has a lack of scumhunting but scrutinizing people and saying that you can only read town out of them is not a lack of scumhunting.

For now, I'm going with lynching the confusing lurker. If he either becomes A) not confusing, B) makes no action at all and makes me believe a modkill is incoming, or C) is replaced and the replacement can make some contribution.

Vote Roco69

On October 27 2012 00:24 sylverfyre wrote:




To make it a more comprehensive list

- poor responses to accusations in the past
- "You sure are taking policy seriously" -> Attack lurkers aggressively (the contradiction inherent here)
- accusing ini of "not scumhunting" when he posted his reads on people, simply because none of those reads were reads of scum (they were townie or null reads, and ini blatantly admitted such)
- Emotional levels running awfully high as people mount pressure on you, but not much defense from accusations.
- "I don't care if alsn has a FOS on me" is your only defense against him for a long time. Only just now did you even acknowledge his accusations as legit.
- Accusing me of sheeping when I've made it clear that I was suspicious of you pretty early. Since then, you've given me more reasons to suspect you.