can an obs replace? if not remove me from obs.
also one of you better afk so I can replace. I love this cheesecake guy...but why did you have to bring up my fail TT

kushm4sta

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October 26 2012 12:10 GMT

#492

hi guys I'm the replacement.

ill bbl with scumreads.

ps I'm scared of djodref he plays amazing scum.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 13:00 GMT

#499

half way through but I have class now so I will finish later.

Thoughts so far:
stfu about confidence holy shit.

stfu about how hard it to post on the phone. just proofread.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 14:43 GMT

#527

When is lynch? Tonight in like 9 hours right?

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 15:30 GMT

#547

Hi guys I read the thread (not super close towards the end though because I wanted to finish).

I think we should lynch Daoud.

He is posting just enough to be considered not a lurker. This level of activity is exactly what you want to lynch d1.

He catches Djo in the classic "scumslip," which does not always indicate scum, but that's not important.
"Why did you call me town djo?"
Then he says oh there might be a sk I guess my point is invalid. Makes no sense.
Bringing it up in the first place is a null tell, because it's an easy catch. But dropping it for such a stupid reason, that is scummy.

This is his most significant post so far:

On October 26 2012 22:41 da0ud wrote:
Ebwop : sorry phone posting. Ill finsih the post :

Deb and rad have been so active and poking at each otjers that they actually look very townie to me. Pushing ideas, bringing content, putting pressure.

Talking about smileyDjo he has put a lot of pressure on people. Asking open questions etc. For having played a game with him where he played to nice lovable newbie card, I believe he is trying to step up and actually be a leader for town. I put him 90% town.

I totally hate the lurkers who actually do not post anything and hide to avoid potential suspicions. Id rather lynch lurking townie first day who doesn't help get info and push others to scumslip.

If scum are among active player we will have time to hunt them down. They will contradict themselves.

And we have semi lurkers like roco or blending ini. Which are pretty much as bad for town.

I would like to put my vote on Ini at the moment cause roco seems like a total newbie trying to stand out.

##Vote Ini

So he gives off some town reads. Djo is 90% town... what the fuck. I don't see how you can think that after playing last game with him. Asking open questions makes him 90% town? ok

I totally hate the lurkers who actually do not post anything and hide to avoid potential suspicions. Id rather lynch lurking townie first day who doesn't help get info and push others to scumslip.

This is such a weird time to talk about lurkers, unless he is giving that as his reason for voting Ini, but Ini isn't even close to the biggest lurker.

So why is he voting for ini? 2 words: "Blending in." Sick case bro.

##vote da0ud

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 15:42 GMT

#550

More on daoud:
He seems much more careful about what he says this game than last game.
Last games his posts were like WTF is this weird guy talking about.
This game they look like he doesn't want to catch anyone's attention.

Why we shouldn't lynch djodref today:
He does look pretty scummy. But I don't see how anyone can have a lot of certainty in that read.
Combination of high activity and low certainty means he should not lynch him.
Also realize that djodref is in a position where he NEEDS to evolve his meta whether he is town or scum.
His first game he played as a noob, understandable because it was his first game. His second game, he pretended to be a noob as a scum strat. I think showing that he is better than the newb he pretended to be last game would be the natural play for town djodref, and also scum djodref trying to appear as town djodref.

Djo: who out of the active players seems scummiest to you? Also why did you bring up how you want to lynch a lurker without even trying to pressure your scumreads?

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 16:34 GMT

#566

@debears
Djo does look scummy just from my first read through. I need to consider his case in more depth (planning on doing that after d1).
I'm not sure he is a viable d1 lynch though. This is because 1 he is active, 2 he is trying to change his meta. There is a lot of uncertainty regarding him.

@djodref

On October 27 2012 00:51 Djodref wrote:
@Kush

Debears and Rad are looking quite ok. I'm leaning town for both of them. I'm waiting for Cheese to post what he has to say about me because I'm still null on him.

I didn't like some posts from sylver but he had some nice reactions during our latest fight.
I need some time to look at dandel. I didn't like the way he voted Inig, but he said he was not sure even.

I would say sylver right now...

But I've been spending too much time defending myself. I need to calm down and re-read some filters for a while.

I didn't ask you for town reads. I asked you for scum reads.
You soft defend sylver in the wishy washiest way possible ("he had some nice reactions") then you give him as your biggest scumread.
Stop overdefending yourself. Start being helpful.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 19:29 GMT

#605

I'm at work and my boss is here so I actually have to so stuff.
I will address stuff people want me to address later. I think get off work 1 hour before lynch.

@daoud in our last game for part of the game you were hiking the himalayen mountains or some shit. I don't buy your excuse.
are you 100% phone or do you also have computer access?

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 19:54 GMT

#608

Inig's posts have improved. Recently he has been sharing his thoughts like crazy.

The cases against him: I think these are examples of mistakes that newbie townie could easily make.

He is a null/town read atm. I don't want to lynch him. Consider this a soft defense.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 19:59 GMT

#609

So this is daoud's reasoning for excusing the scumslip: even if djo was mafia he wouldn't know who town was because there's always the possibility that someone could be sk.

And that was enough to drop it completely? This is weak even for daoud reasoning.
I'm not saying the slip was a big deal, but daoud's reason for dropping it seems totally contrived.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 20:52 GMT

#616

This is an example of a daoud post midway through last game:

On October 14 2012 15:58 da0ud wrote:
Sorry just caught up on the chat and am currently hiking close to china border so poor network.

One first thing on my vote against San is at the time as default choice between two people I found scummy.
I found more content on sand than on the lurker ON. And at the time I put my votes there was already 11 votes on san. I was following the crowd.
Overnight the defense of Sand got pretty intense and sure would I have shifted my votes towards ON, not that it would have made a difference anyway.
Even if it is not confirmed I am fairly sure Sand is town cause he put his votes on ON to go to the final which would not make sense for a scum to push another scum to face him in finals.
At this stage I am pretty sure as well mementoss is scum. I already put it as second scum read from the round of 4 but now put him as top read.

It will be pretty incomprehensible if you weren't in that game. But notice how freely he speaks his mind, even in difficult posting conditions.
His early game posts that game were happy, jokey, and pretty random.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 21:20 GMT

#620

Ini voting dandel could have all sorts of different motives. At this point I think speculation about the matter is wifom and not particularly helpful. It gives of a null read to me.

@Sylver: I fail to see daoud's "great content". Could you point that out to me?
Also you shit on both bandwagons, which there is nothing wrong with, but you don't say who you want to lynch. That is a problem. There is less than 3 hours.left until lynch. What bandwagon do YOU think town should be riding?

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 21:21 GMT

#621

sorry sylver.. misread.. I thought.you were saying daoud had great content.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 22:21 GMT

#625

@debears I've seen newb town do it before, be the only one's voting someone d1. They have a hunch and they believe in it .
I don't think we can read too much into his vote for dandel, esp not before we see someone flip.

The choice is between 2 people. I want everyone to say which they want to lynch, if they haven't already, and say why.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 22:35 GMT

#629

@debears I did post quotes from daoud last game. The case isn't Omg great but there's not a lot to go off of and I think he is out best option.

Inig has contributed wayyy more. This is clear by sumply comparing their filters.

I don't get your point about the survival instinct. Scum have a stronger survival instinct than town. So unless daoud is scum, it seems like it makes more sense for him to vote daoud if he's scum.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

October 26 2012 22:53 GMT

#633

So I guess the mafia motivation for voting dandel comes from:
either
1.daoud is scum and he wants to protect his scumbud
or
2.daoud is town and he wants.to get town points when hw flips

is this what you guys are getting at? because I haven't seen someone explain why scum wouldn't vote daoud.