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On October 09 2012 12:41 Mattchew wrote: also, i don't believe that even you could come up with all of that as scum so yeah i believe it I always envy those scum guys that have such an imagination to claim the stuff they do. I don't know how they do it  I never fake-claimed blue in my scum life...meh it's just not my thing. | ||
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On October 09 2012 12:49 Keirathi wrote: I fake claimed being roleblocked in my only scum game. But I also shot down prplhz's incessant desire to claim Cop because it really is a super hard thing to pull off. However, as someone else pointed out to me on day 2 when I started defending S&B before I claimed, its canon for scum in super-themed games like this to be given fake claims. Yeah. If I was scum I think I would have asked for a safe-claim this game (always do...even though hosts don't give me any most of the time )I wouldn't really have the time or effort to fake-breadcrumb and conceive very weird situations and reports/checks/stuff as scum though, it's just too tiring and most of the time people that claim weird shit get lynched anyways so why even try? (I'm not good at "cause chaos" thingy either to be honest, which is another reason to claim that stuff as scum) | ||
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On October 09 2012 12:53 strongandbig wrote: i looove fake claiming when im scum its so much more fun i believe your claim atm though. it sounds like the ikind fo role those hosts would put in this game. mattchew - did you claim role name? given that cave johnson flipped town i no longer trust flavor but w/e. actually we should probably just mass claim right now because so many people have claimed already. mass claim go go go If Chell claims and then dies don't you go lynching me later if everybody supports a massclaim. | ||
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He just chose to visit you initially | ||
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*you were bussed | ||
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Does someone know why the hell my N1 report was fucked up or is it just some thing scum did? I'm still worried about ghost visiting Hiro and swapping positions....although if that's his sole role it doesn't make much sense :/ (it fits more in Death Factory mafia not here >_> ). Well Hiro, seems like you are the popular kid in this game everybody visits you every night. Mattchew, I'd like your explanation on these: n1 i bussed draz and ghost cause I thought ghost might be shot for the amount iamperf went at him and wanted draz dead Why the hell would ghost get shot? How about...I dunno Xfire which you yourself said was basically confirmed town because of hammering IAMP? How about Hiro who was "pretty much town" for the same reason? Also why Drazerk out of everybody? How about Keirathi who you even speculated to last-minute switch late-D1? Damn, you don't really write in night-phases at all so it's impossible to check if what you are saying is true or not :/ n2 i bussed gonzaw and keirathi trying to get gonzaw shot cause I thought theres a chance of him being scum Why? Why didn't you bus keirathi and maybe Drazerk or ghost? Why did you think there was a chance of me being scum? On October 05 2012 01:52 Mattchew wrote: gonzaw how do you know the numbers of the scum team? On October 05 2012 07:17 Mattchew wrote: i am running out of possible scum gonzaw looks like a decent lynch maybe hiro pro? These are the only quotes where I remember you mentioning me in a "scummy" way, but you explain nothing at all anyways. Oh, the "Hiro is scum" explanation would also be welcomed. | ||
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Meh, I guess that role makes sense. Doesn't bring quite a lot of information into the table though, specially about your alignment/or if it's your actual role (even though you "breadcrumbed" by not voting Kei first and that "wool" comment). So...Hiro/Jingle/ghost are the only ones that haven't claimed yet, and we haven't had conflicting reports yet, so one could assume all of us claimed our own roles and didn't fake-claim (whether those roles are from one alignment or not it's another question). I'd want ghost to claim to explain the N2 shenanigans. I'd want Hiro and Jingle to claim just to complete the massclaim and not let any of them just stand there hiding while everybody else claimed if one of them is scum, or if they have some new information to give us. Other than that I don't see why they should claim though. Also, can someone please claim if they are in a rat den? Matt can bus guys there for protection or at least Kei/S&B don't waste their saves on you since you are jailed. I don't know if it would just be better for Matt to claim Chell once and for all and have Keirathi/S&B target him each night so he's 100% safe. Then right before the deadline Matt claims his targets and why he chose them (so at least we can have some explanation for them), specially why he chose his "scum" target (i.e the guy we want to bus a bullet into) and why he chose his "victim" target (i.e the guy that would have gotten shot initialy) if we want him to bus scum with town. Hey Jingle, am I town now? Or am I a super mastermind scum who elaborated this complicated scheme since D2 so town would so easily fall into my trap MWAHAHAHAHAA ? Also, since my win-con and shit is dependant on other people's role names...do you guys think some BS/RS/maybe 3rd party is also dependant on people's role names? Also I wonder how the hell Drazerk figured this out: On October 05 2012 02:10 Drazerk wrote: There are roles out there that kill people based on role names I wondered if he had something similar to me in his role PM or had a DT ability that checked those things (or his role just warned him of that). I forgot about it later though | ||
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Wait no, Nisani watched Matt and nobody visited him.... Hell if I know...maybe Matt lied? | ||
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On October 10 2012 01:27 austinmcc wrote: Unlikely, given one of iamperfection's JOAT abilities: IAMP was dead D1, he couldn't have used that ability (and I suppose that's the only ability like that in the game) I also thought it was possible Nisani was actually driven with Mementos/Mattchew, so he actually protected Mementos and got nobody visited him, which is why I tracked him to Mementos... ...then again the only bus driver seems to be Matt that didn't claim that, plus if Nisani protected Mementos he wouldn't have been killed and he would have seen scum visiting Mem....so no that doesn't make sense either | ||
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Also as long as all actual claims are true, ghost isn't RS either. Who the hell is RS then? Hiro/Jingle? Unless we try to get paranoid about you/S&B or get into WIFOM land about Matt (or if I get accused again like usual). | ||
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If any of you is townie and has this alternate win condition please claim it. Also, this is another reason why I didn't believe the "3-3 scum team"... I mean, 6 scum plus 1 or more smie-traitors? That's basically unwinnable for town. | ||
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On October 10 2012 01:56 Mattchew wrote: JH's role sounds pretty good for a black scum team with no KP im just saying Well your role sounds good for like any scum ever as well. Matt, either claim Chell or be a townie, explain yourself/scumhunt/do shit/etc. | ||
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Well, I can track him tonight and if he doesn't visit austin (the guy below him in the player list) he's lying. It's possible that as BH/RS he'd have another "harmless" ability and would target austin for that reason though | ||
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Again, if you claim Chell at least we'll be like 99% sure you are not RS (flavour-wise, and also because my alternate win condition wouldn't make any sense "Kill all the RS scum team, once you do that you can win with the RS scum team!") and 80% sure you are town (again barring the possibility of Chell being recruited to BS or some shit like that). If you don't want to claim Chell or claim something else prove your innocence the old-fashioned way: contribute and do shit. | ||
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On October 10 2012 02:27 JingleHell wrote: I'm only bulletproof IF the person below me is alive to visit. Also, I assume I can be tracked there since I'm visiting them, which has a nasty ability to backfire. As to that being good for black scum, I can't even imagine my role being balanced that way, since the scum team's wincons seem to require working at cross purposes, putting red in a position where they can only kill a rival by forcing a lynch seems risky, especially with a role that would reveal that they had no other choice. Anyone who pushed it would promptly be under scrutiny. That would be an "I win" button for black. Also, if we have a vigi with bullets, confirming me tonight wouldn't be so bad. I repeat the question: Am I still scum or not Jingle? I don't really like these lack of information roles that have been claimed (i.e they don't give any direct info), like austin's or Jingle's. It's quite possible one of them is a fake-claim....if we don't find any contradictory information with all the remaining claims (which would indicate that the people that claimed they had info most likely didn't fake-claimed). Anyways....dayum it's time to use logic! Hmm, where to start? I'll try to think about all these shit and see if I can figure out some fake-claim or what actually happened or what scum's abilities they have In the meantime: ##Vote: ghost Player list swapper that's not Chell, hasn't claimed yet and hasn't participated in the thread at all. Until he claims, vote goes on him. | ||
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On October 10 2012 04:06 HiroPro wrote: I'm the Discouragement Redirection Cube. I can pick a target and a random action that targets me at night will get redirected onto the target. I picked nisani n1, gonzaw n2, and no one on n3 (figured I would definitely get protection from keirathi). If this is true then then Hiro and ghost's swap is completely irrelevant (at all I would have been swapped with ghost). Hmm, Hiro, can you post explanations on why you chose those targets? On October 10 2012 04:42 austinmcc wrote: Oh ghoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooost. Would you like to claim? If everyone is being truthful, you used something on HiroPro N2. And HiroPro redirected to Gonzaw N2, so barring funny business, your action should have actually ... taken place on Gonzaw? HiroPro/Gonzaw, do either of you know how the tracking would come out in that situation? I've only asked what happens when my targets/me/my targets visitors are bussed. I think my tracking report doesn't change at all whethe ghost's ability is done on me because Hiro redirected it or if ghost used it on me directly. Again, it depends on what ghost's ability is which can fuck my report (if he has a "fucks this person's checks" role) Actually, if that role visited Hiro it's possible it's ghost didn't visit Hiro at all (so my report on ghost is fucked). On October 10 2012 02:17 Mattchew wrote: yeah im chell Okay Mattchew is 92.5% not an Aperture Science Member Take note of that You can still be black considering the effort you've been putting into this game :/ But meh we have better things to take care of On October 10 2012 02:24 Mattchew wrote: also, im a vet + bus driver so that shot wasn't protected against me. I didn't even get notice that i was shot just that i should be careful because i don't have an extra life anymore and gonzaw those questions are bad and loaded. draz was playing like (insert whatever you want here) and ghost was all the attention of iamperf (which i never noticed but he didn't vote for him)... I didn't know there was 2 scum teams so i figured he would be a townie that was likely unprotected but hard to lynch. Again, what about Hiro/Xfire? You think they were too "obvious" pro-town targets that scum wouldn't try to shoot them (in fear of medic saves)? Meh nevermind, that's probably the answer you'll give me. | ||
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That night I got that ghost visited you. I concluded that ghost visited you to swap your position in the player list with him. But if ghost actually visited me, that couldn't have happened. Wait Hiro: Are medic/bodyguard saves affected by your ability? E.g could you have protected Nisani on N1 when S&B protected you? | ||
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