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On September 14 2012 14:30 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 14:27 Risen wrote:On September 14 2012 14:26 prplhz wrote:On September 14 2012 14:22 Risen wrote:
What justifies Dirk being best townie? He's the only real reason the lynch on me got off the ground.
I think that honor belongs to Ange. No one ever thought of lynching Dirkzor except a rampaging Bluelightz, and this is even though he survived until LYLO. That's really what you gotta do as townie, make sure no one is on your back.Ange777 didn't do anything this game at all since she was lynched on day1. I'm sure there would have been some more from her later (she even admits this after she died in the "man, i was just getting time for this game"-post). I mean she wasn't bad or anything but she simply wasn't alive enough to be any good. I disagree. I always thought the objective as town was to find scum, something Dirk did 0 of this game. Establishing yourself as town is at least almost as important as finding scum, if not as important.
100% agree. If you're extremely good at finding scum, then you can let your results speak for themselves, but generally, people have to trust you to listen to you.
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On September 14 2012 14:32 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 14:30 Keirathi wrote:On September 14 2012 14:27 Risen wrote:On September 14 2012 14:26 prplhz wrote:On September 14 2012 14:22 Risen wrote:
What justifies Dirk being best townie? He's the only real reason the lynch on me got off the ground.
I think that honor belongs to Ange. No one ever thought of lynching Dirkzor except a rampaging Bluelightz, and this is even though he survived until LYLO. That's really what you gotta do as townie, make sure no one is on your back.Ange777 didn't do anything this game at all since she was lynched on day1. I'm sure there would have been some more from her later (she even admits this after she died in the "man, i was just getting time for this game"-post). I mean she wasn't bad or anything but she simply wasn't alive enough to be any good. I disagree. I always thought the objective as town was to find scum, something Dirk did 0 of this game. Establishing yourself as town is at least almost as important as finding scum, if not as important. Look at Newbie XXVI that just ended. Scum crumbled because there was a townie circle forming and one guy picked up that because of it, the 3 scum were obvious. Granted, that only happened because of some poor NKs, but still! I don't see how Dirk established himself as town. If I was any of the other players he would have been my d2 lynch choice, and then my d3 lynch choice.
I wasn't specifically talking about Dirk. Just in general.
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On September 14 2012 14:32 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 14:30 Keirathi wrote:On September 14 2012 14:27 Risen wrote:On September 14 2012 14:26 prplhz wrote:On September 14 2012 14:22 Risen wrote:
What justifies Dirk being best townie? He's the only real reason the lynch on me got off the ground.
I think that honor belongs to Ange. No one ever thought of lynching Dirkzor except a rampaging Bluelightz, and this is even though he survived until LYLO. That's really what you gotta do as townie, make sure no one is on your back.Ange777 didn't do anything this game at all since she was lynched on day1. I'm sure there would have been some more from her later (she even admits this after she died in the "man, i was just getting time for this game"-post). I mean she wasn't bad or anything but she simply wasn't alive enough to be any good. I disagree. I always thought the objective as town was to find scum, something Dirk did 0 of this game. Establishing yourself as town is at least almost as important as finding scum, if not as important. Look at Newbie XXVI that just ended. Scum crumbled because there was a townie circle forming and one guy picked up that because of it, the 3 scum were obvious. Granted, that only happened because of some poor NKs, but still! I don't see how Dirk established himself as town. If I was any of the other players he would have been my d2 lynch choice, and then my d3 lynch choice. Edit: Prpl how on earth was dirk established as a townie? He was scummier than you, in my opinion, and he ended up being town lol
Quoting b/c I edited it and someone came in and posted after the edit happened oops :S
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I would like to know how there was such a huge disconnect between the people in the QT and the people in the game in terms of whether I was town or not, then :/
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On September 14 2012 14:32 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 14:30 Keirathi wrote:On September 14 2012 14:27 Risen wrote:On September 14 2012 14:26 prplhz wrote:On September 14 2012 14:22 Risen wrote:
What justifies Dirk being best townie? He's the only real reason the lynch on me got off the ground.
I think that honor belongs to Ange. No one ever thought of lynching Dirkzor except a rampaging Bluelightz, and this is even though he survived until LYLO. That's really what you gotta do as townie, make sure no one is on your back.Ange777 didn't do anything this game at all since she was lynched on day1. I'm sure there would have been some more from her later (she even admits this after she died in the "man, i was just getting time for this game"-post). I mean she wasn't bad or anything but she simply wasn't alive enough to be any good. I disagree. I always thought the objective as town was to find scum, something Dirk did 0 of this game. Establishing yourself as town is at least almost as important as finding scum, if not as important. Look at Newbie XXVI that just ended. Scum crumbled because there was a townie circle forming and one guy picked up that because of it, the 3 scum were obvious. Granted, that only happened because of some poor NKs, but still! I don't see how Dirk established himself as town. If I was any of the other players he would have been my d2 lynch choice, and then my d3 lynch choice.
But no one else found him scummy (except a scum). Ange777 figuratively had no impact on this game. I'm sure she would have done well if she had been allowed to survive past night1 and had time to show her worth but unfortunately (for her) she was an underrated townie and that spells doom when there is a medic around.
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On September 14 2012 14:35 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 14:32 Risen wrote:On September 14 2012 14:30 Keirathi wrote:On September 14 2012 14:27 Risen wrote:On September 14 2012 14:26 prplhz wrote:On September 14 2012 14:22 Risen wrote:
What justifies Dirk being best townie? He's the only real reason the lynch on me got off the ground.
I think that honor belongs to Ange. No one ever thought of lynching Dirkzor except a rampaging Bluelightz, and this is even though he survived until LYLO. That's really what you gotta do as townie, make sure no one is on your back.Ange777 didn't do anything this game at all since she was lynched on day1. I'm sure there would have been some more from her later (she even admits this after she died in the "man, i was just getting time for this game"-post). I mean she wasn't bad or anything but she simply wasn't alive enough to be any good. I disagree. I always thought the objective as town was to find scum, something Dirk did 0 of this game. Establishing yourself as town is at least almost as important as finding scum, if not as important. Look at Newbie XXVI that just ended. Scum crumbled because there was a townie circle forming and one guy picked up that because of it, the 3 scum were obvious. Granted, that only happened because of some poor NKs, but still! I don't see how Dirk established himself as town. If I was any of the other players he would have been my d2 lynch choice, and then my d3 lynch choice. But no one else found him scummy (except a scum). Ange777 figuratively had no impact on this game. I'm sure she would have done well if she had been allowed to survive past night1 and had time to show her worth but unfortunately (for her) she was an underrated townie and that spells doom when there is a medic around.
What are you talking about? There was absolutely 0 scum hunting after day 1. Day 2 was lynch the liar, and day 3 was lynch the cop vote. If there had actually been scum hunting day 2 and day 3 I think Dirk would have showed up easily as a lynch target.
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I don't know how Dirkzor was established as townie because I didn't really read the game, the only vote he ever got was from Bluelightz who was borderline delusional at that point, voting for confirmed cops and stuff like that.
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On September 14 2012 14:37 prplhz wrote:
I don't know how Dirkzor was established as townie because I didn't really read the game, the only vote he ever got was from Bluelightz who was borderline delusional at that point, voting for confirmed cops and stuff like that.
T_T
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On September 14 2012 14:37 prplhz wrote:
I don't know how Dirkzor was established as townie because I didn't really read the game, the only vote he ever got was from Bluelightz who was borderline delusional at that point, voting for confirmed cops and stuff like that.
WHAT? You weren't reading the game!?
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On September 14 2012 14:35 Risen wrote:
I would like to know how there was such a huge disconnect between the people in the QT and the people in the game in terms of whether I was town or not, then :/
Well partly because people in the obs qt don't get emotionally involved as much (and make quick reaction calls) and partly because they weren't a target of your accusations 
And idk about other people, but I don't think I read the thread until you got lynched and even then I really only skimmed it, so I didn't really notice anything special.
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On September 14 2012 14:36 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 14:35 prplhz wrote:On September 14 2012 14:32 Risen wrote:On September 14 2012 14:30 Keirathi wrote:On September 14 2012 14:27 Risen wrote:On September 14 2012 14:26 prplhz wrote:On September 14 2012 14:22 Risen wrote:
What justifies Dirk being best townie? He's the only real reason the lynch on me got off the ground.
I think that honor belongs to Ange. No one ever thought of lynching Dirkzor except a rampaging Bluelightz, and this is even though he survived until LYLO. That's really what you gotta do as townie, make sure no one is on your back.Ange777 didn't do anything this game at all since she was lynched on day1. I'm sure there would have been some more from her later (she even admits this after she died in the "man, i was just getting time for this game"-post). I mean she wasn't bad or anything but she simply wasn't alive enough to be any good. I disagree. I always thought the objective as town was to find scum, something Dirk did 0 of this game. Establishing yourself as town is at least almost as important as finding scum, if not as important. Look at Newbie XXVI that just ended. Scum crumbled because there was a townie circle forming and one guy picked up that because of it, the 3 scum were obvious. Granted, that only happened because of some poor NKs, but still! I don't see how Dirk established himself as town. If I was any of the other players he would have been my d2 lynch choice, and then my d3 lynch choice. But no one else found him scummy (except a scum). Ange777 figuratively had no impact on this game. I'm sure she would have done well if she had been allowed to survive past night1 and had time to show her worth but unfortunately (for her) she was an underrated townie and that spells doom when there is a medic around. What are you talking about? There was absolutely 0 scum hunting after day 1. Day 2 was lynch the liar, and day 3 was lynch the cop vote. If there had actually been scum hunting day 2 and day 3 I think Dirk would have showed up easily as a lynch target.
But.... in the game we just played that didn't happen and Dirkzor played the entire game without having anybody point fingers at him, thus not being a distraction for town at any point. I also really doubt your hypothetical, there's a reason Dirkzor has never been lynched (though I'm not entirely sure what it is).
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On September 14 2012 14:39 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 14:37 prplhz wrote:
I don't know how Dirkzor was established as townie because I didn't really read the game, the only vote he ever got was from Bluelightz who was borderline delusional at that point, voting for confirmed cops and stuff like that. WHAT? You weren't reading the game!?
Well, I evidently was following the game, you can see me describing a few distinct event from the game in that very same sentence that I could not have known if I hadn't actually followed the game.
Didn't read it all though don't know what you guys are so worked up about. Read some, skimmed some more, skipped the rest because it didn't matter.
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I was being sarcastic. I already knew you weren't particularly invested in the game because we talked about it on irc
Scum burnout is pretty understandable.
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Scum burnout? I wish I had a game as scum. It's been months since I was mafia T_T
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Nah if I were in this game risen for sure doesn't get lynched D1. But vader or dirk might have been because I really didn't suspect keir.
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On September 14 2012 14:47 HiroPro wrote:
Scum burnout? I wish I had a game as scum. It's been months since I was mafia T_T
Policy lynch Hiro next game I'm with him.
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On September 14 2012 14:47 HiroPro wrote:
Scum burnout? I wish I had a game as scum. It's been months since I was mafia T_T
Well prplhz has been scum in like 4 straight minis You should secretly trade accounts with him or something lol.
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On September 14 2012 14:48 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 14:47 HiroPro wrote:
Scum burnout? I wish I had a game as scum. It's been months since I was mafia T_T Policy lynch Hiro next game I'm with him.
Nah I would never request for roles lol. I don't think it's really fair to other players.
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Funny thing is that before that I had the longest town streak on teamliquid that I know about with like 21 games in a row.
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