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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 24 2012 03:04 GMT
#2881
Yeah the reading the op and making assumptions was unfortunate
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 24 2012 03:08 GMT
#2882
I would like to cite a conflict of laws
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 24 2012 03:08 GMT
#2883
Grush having potential autowin as town is irrelevant to this, as it has to do with me making personal mistakes, and I need a different defense to properly suffice
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 24 2012 03:10 GMT
#2884
I would like to seek foreign jurisdiction towards Grush's activity in LYLO in relation to my time spent
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 24 2012 04:37 GMT
#2885
On September 24 2012 09:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 09:46 strongandbig wrote:
On September 24 2012 07:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
Reading the scum qt, my mad hatter idea was not that bad actually
As I had suspected, I was gonna get shot anyways. At least my death would confirm toad town/assassin, and in case a medic did indeed save toad, I would have gotten saved.


Your claim was really effective imo. Instead of shooting someone who actually looked townie we shot you to try and get a double kill. You basically managed to confirm toad and to make us use a shot to kill you instead of letting you get lynched.

And for this game - I disagree about the victory feeling hollow. I recognize that my play was terrible but I still feel pretty good right now.

Still pissed at mattchew though. That was just super dumb.



TBH I honestly do not feel his claim was "super dumb" as everyone makes it out to be. It was stupid in retrospect but the OP did not indicate that NN were unaware of their alignment and if you read the thread up until I outed him for it no one was attacking him for his claim being fake as hell, but that it was more oddly claimed.

Even before Palmar confirmed they did not know their alignment the town should have realized something was amiss when literally no one else claimed NN to verify mattchews claim. That in its own right should have been the proof to get him lynched barring a mod post. Had it not been for a player such as myself, and any other player who has hosted (very few I believe in this game) near no one else thought to even ask so the claim was only bad given that certain people were almost sure to ask questions.


For the rest of your team play though I think you guys were slightly too passive and should have exerted a bit more control. You guys could have easily pushed a misslynch onto a few people with a bit of effort and when it came down to the lynch snb died in I have no idea well, how you did. Given that a mafia member was required to get you lynched over a townie you could have coasted safely by never having allinson vote for your death thus auto win the game basically.





lynching me wasn't a team decision or anything. imallinson just did it while I was off playing dota, and I'm still not sure why he did.

and re the fake nosy neighbor claim, claiming like that is "super dumb" in an open setup where it is actually verifiable. If you're going to do it at all it should only be done either in games where self-aware millers are confirmed to exist or in games with a closed setup like deathnote, where I had just done the exact same thing but where I knew that the hosts wouldn't tell anyone how the miller mechanic worked or even whether there was one.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 24 2012 04:37 GMT
#2886
On September 24 2012 11:19 slOosh wrote:
I enjoyed being bulletproof. Please give me more such roles
I also dunno how the SnB lynch went down but that was fun.


at least we only shot you once, unlike toad.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2012 10:25 GMT
#2887
strongandbig
09-04-2012
09:34 AM ET (US)
Here's my plan.

I claim scum in thread and pretend to ragequit. However I say matt's not on the scum team but i'm ragequitting because there's no good players on the scum team and all the scum have slipped already.

Then goodkarma you swap your vote off of mattchew and onto me and try really hard to get people to vote me.

Then town lynches mattchew anyway because they're not morons.

Then during the night phase I reveal my breadcrumb that my ragequit post was fake and claim a vig shot on goodkarma, who suicide bombs.

Alternatively if we want to put even more of our eggs in one basket we could have darthpunk or someone else scummy as fuck do the attempt to swap the vote from mattchew onto me and we could use a scum kp on that person and have me deliver it.

You guys have like three hours to persuade me that we can win normally or else I'm doing it.


ROFL.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2012 11:53 GMT
#2888
yeah, I did have a bit of a giggle at s&b about that one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 12:58:55
September 24 2012 12:56 GMT
#2889
On September 24 2012 13:37 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 09:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On September 24 2012 09:46 strongandbig wrote:
On September 24 2012 07:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
Reading the scum qt, my mad hatter idea was not that bad actually
As I had suspected, I was gonna get shot anyways. At least my death would confirm toad town/assassin, and in case a medic did indeed save toad, I would have gotten saved.


Your claim was really effective imo. Instead of shooting someone who actually looked townie we shot you to try and get a double kill. You basically managed to confirm toad and to make us use a shot to kill you instead of letting you get lynched.

And for this game - I disagree about the victory feeling hollow. I recognize that my play was terrible but I still feel pretty good right now.

Still pissed at mattchew though. That was just super dumb.



TBH I honestly do not feel his claim was "super dumb" as everyone makes it out to be. It was stupid in retrospect but the OP did not indicate that NN were unaware of their alignment and if you read the thread up until I outed him for it no one was attacking him for his claim being fake as hell, but that it was more oddly claimed.

Even before Palmar confirmed they did not know their alignment the town should have realized something was amiss when literally no one else claimed NN to verify mattchews claim. That in its own right should have been the proof to get him lynched barring a mod post. Had it not been for a player such as myself, and any other player who has hosted (very few I believe in this game) near no one else thought to even ask so the claim was only bad given that certain people were almost sure to ask questions.


For the rest of your team play though I think you guys were slightly too passive and should have exerted a bit more control. You guys could have easily pushed a misslynch onto a few people with a bit of effort and when it came down to the lynch snb died in I have no idea well, how you did. Given that a mafia member was required to get you lynched over a townie you could have coasted safely by never having allinson vote for your death thus auto win the game basically.





lynching me wasn't a team decision or anything. imallinson just did it while I was off playing dota, and I'm still not sure why he did.

and re the fake nosy neighbor claim, claiming like that is "super dumb" in an open setup where it is actually verifiable. If you're going to do it at all it should only be done either in games where self-aware millers are confirmed to exist or in games with a closed setup like deathnote, where I had just done the exact same thing but where I knew that the hosts wouldn't tell anyone how the miller mechanic worked or even whether there was one.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with doing the following via pm:
"sup Palmar, your OP doesn't exactly state it but something in there *include whatever reason here* makes me think the millers/NNs are self-aware. Is that true? I'm kind of considering to claim that"
"no dude they're not"
"kk thanks, almost claimed NN! :p"

/// Edit: I mean even if Palmar answers with bullshit like "can't tell you that" that means that if someone else asks the same question they won't get confirmation either which means you're good to go. ///

I really don't get it how something like we had this game can happen. Matt's definitely the new VE when it comes to claiming I guess.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2012 12:57 GMT
#2890
On September 24 2012 21:56 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 13:37 strongandbig wrote:
On September 24 2012 09:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On September 24 2012 09:46 strongandbig wrote:
On September 24 2012 07:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
Reading the scum qt, my mad hatter idea was not that bad actually
As I had suspected, I was gonna get shot anyways. At least my death would confirm toad town/assassin, and in case a medic did indeed save toad, I would have gotten saved.


Your claim was really effective imo. Instead of shooting someone who actually looked townie we shot you to try and get a double kill. You basically managed to confirm toad and to make us use a shot to kill you instead of letting you get lynched.

And for this game - I disagree about the victory feeling hollow. I recognize that my play was terrible but I still feel pretty good right now.

Still pissed at mattchew though. That was just super dumb.



TBH I honestly do not feel his claim was "super dumb" as everyone makes it out to be. It was stupid in retrospect but the OP did not indicate that NN were unaware of their alignment and if you read the thread up until I outed him for it no one was attacking him for his claim being fake as hell, but that it was more oddly claimed.

Even before Palmar confirmed they did not know their alignment the town should have realized something was amiss when literally no one else claimed NN to verify mattchews claim. That in its own right should have been the proof to get him lynched barring a mod post. Had it not been for a player such as myself, and any other player who has hosted (very few I believe in this game) near no one else thought to even ask so the claim was only bad given that certain people were almost sure to ask questions.


For the rest of your team play though I think you guys were slightly too passive and should have exerted a bit more control. You guys could have easily pushed a misslynch onto a few people with a bit of effort and when it came down to the lynch snb died in I have no idea well, how you did. Given that a mafia member was required to get you lynched over a townie you could have coasted safely by never having allinson vote for your death thus auto win the game basically.





lynching me wasn't a team decision or anything. imallinson just did it while I was off playing dota, and I'm still not sure why he did.

and re the fake nosy neighbor claim, claiming like that is "super dumb" in an open setup where it is actually verifiable. If you're going to do it at all it should only be done either in games where self-aware millers are confirmed to exist or in games with a closed setup like deathnote, where I had just done the exact same thing but where I knew that the hosts wouldn't tell anyone how the miller mechanic worked or even whether there was one.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with doing the following via pm:
"sup Palmar, your OP doesn't exactly state it but something in there *include whatever reason here* makes me think the millers/NNs are self-aware. Is that true? I'm kind of considering to claim that"
"no dude they're not"
"kk thanks, almost claimed NN! :p"

I really don't get it how something like we had this game can happen. Matt's definitely the new VE when it comes to claiming I guess.


Matt has a splendid Normal resumé with LI and LVII
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 24 2012 13:01 GMT
#2891
On September 24 2012 21:57 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 21:56 Toadesstern wrote:
On September 24 2012 13:37 strongandbig wrote:
On September 24 2012 09:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On September 24 2012 09:46 strongandbig wrote:
On September 24 2012 07:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
Reading the scum qt, my mad hatter idea was not that bad actually
As I had suspected, I was gonna get shot anyways. At least my death would confirm toad town/assassin, and in case a medic did indeed save toad, I would have gotten saved.


Your claim was really effective imo. Instead of shooting someone who actually looked townie we shot you to try and get a double kill. You basically managed to confirm toad and to make us use a shot to kill you instead of letting you get lynched.

And for this game - I disagree about the victory feeling hollow. I recognize that my play was terrible but I still feel pretty good right now.

Still pissed at mattchew though. That was just super dumb.



TBH I honestly do not feel his claim was "super dumb" as everyone makes it out to be. It was stupid in retrospect but the OP did not indicate that NN were unaware of their alignment and if you read the thread up until I outed him for it no one was attacking him for his claim being fake as hell, but that it was more oddly claimed.

Even before Palmar confirmed they did not know their alignment the town should have realized something was amiss when literally no one else claimed NN to verify mattchews claim. That in its own right should have been the proof to get him lynched barring a mod post. Had it not been for a player such as myself, and any other player who has hosted (very few I believe in this game) near no one else thought to even ask so the claim was only bad given that certain people were almost sure to ask questions.


For the rest of your team play though I think you guys were slightly too passive and should have exerted a bit more control. You guys could have easily pushed a misslynch onto a few people with a bit of effort and when it came down to the lynch snb died in I have no idea well, how you did. Given that a mafia member was required to get you lynched over a townie you could have coasted safely by never having allinson vote for your death thus auto win the game basically.





lynching me wasn't a team decision or anything. imallinson just did it while I was off playing dota, and I'm still not sure why he did.

and re the fake nosy neighbor claim, claiming like that is "super dumb" in an open setup where it is actually verifiable. If you're going to do it at all it should only be done either in games where self-aware millers are confirmed to exist or in games with a closed setup like deathnote, where I had just done the exact same thing but where I knew that the hosts wouldn't tell anyone how the miller mechanic worked or even whether there was one.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with doing the following via pm:
"sup Palmar, your OP doesn't exactly state it but something in there *include whatever reason here* makes me think the millers/NNs are self-aware. Is that true? I'm kind of considering to claim that"
"no dude they're not"
"kk thanks, almost claimed NN! :p"

I really don't get it how something like we had this game can happen. Matt's definitely the new VE when it comes to claiming I guess.


Matt has a splendid Normal resumé with LI and LVII

you know what I was referring to sweetie
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2012 13:02 GMT
#2892
I know, I was just pointing out Matt's had 2 hilarious mishaps in Normals now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 13:10:11
September 24 2012 13:07 GMT
#2893
OH now I remember what LI was.
DUDE matt, what are you doing with the games I thought I already won when I'm playing them.

Edit: Wasn't Matt also the Pikachu in PTP that ended up shooting me with a rnd-23 roll and killed me n1 with that bullshit?
Wtf my mind is blown right now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 24 2012 14:09 GMT
#2894
damn I thought I might have had a win here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 24 2012 14:35 GMT
#2895
Poor Bill Murray so misunderstood. Those of you who aren't doing DrHs game should check out GSL 2 mini.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 24 2012 14:40 GMT
#2896
On September 24 2012 23:09 Mementoss wrote:
damn I thought I might have had a win here


I did as well

1-7 Record now QQ

Also guys sign up for GSL2 mini, DrH's game will take some time to fill up anyway!
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2012 14:52 GMT
#2897
On September 24 2012 23:40 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 23:09 Mementoss wrote:
damn I thought I might have had a win here


I did as well

1-7 Record now QQ

Also guys sign up for GSL2 mini, DrH's game will take some time to fill up anyway!

Sorry Shiao. You totally deserved it. <3
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 24 2012 15:03 GMT
#2898
On September 24 2012 07:37 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 18:36 Palmar wrote:
ShiaoPi the Tracker is dead

i thought i had until now

2 days later


You should probably ask before making assumptions like that, especially when the OP states the deadline is at 22:00.

Anyway, if that was unclear I'm sorry, but in general it's always best to ask.
Computer says mafia
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 24 2012 15:05 GMT
#2899
On September 24 2012 23:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 23:40 ShiaoPi wrote:
On September 24 2012 23:09 Mementoss wrote:
damn I thought I might have had a win here


I did as well

1-7 Record now QQ

Also guys sign up for GSL2 mini, DrH's game will take some time to fill up anyway!

Sorry Shiao. You totally deserved it. <3


Ah well, should probably started to play properly earlier, could have avoided the entire ugly endgame that way
Also, you deserve the win as well. Your angry raging townie act was pretty good!
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2012 15:20 GMT
#2900
On September 25 2012 00:05 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 23:52 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2012 23:40 ShiaoPi wrote:
On September 24 2012 23:09 Mementoss wrote:
damn I thought I might have had a win here


I did as well

1-7 Record now QQ

Also guys sign up for GSL2 mini, DrH's game will take some time to fill up anyway!

Sorry Shiao. You totally deserved it. <3


Ah well, should probably started to play properly earlier, could have avoided the entire ugly endgame that way
Also, you deserve the win as well. Your angry raging townie act was pretty good!

Yeah. I was pretty surprised I didn't make you doubt yourself. Good Job!
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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