EPTOn September 25 2012 00:20 DarthPunk wrote:
Yeah. I was pretty surprised I didn't make you doubt yourself. Good Job!
Yeah. I was pretty surprised I didn't make you doubt yourself. Good Job!
that's because what you were doing was scummy as shit
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
that's because what you were doing was scummy as shit | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
On September 25 2012 00:37 marvellosity wrote: that's because what you were doing was scummy as shit Good to know. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
 edit: and it obviously succeeded, so well done. But it was definitely not townie :p | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
On September 25 2012 00:43 marvellosity wrote: No offence intended obviously, but all it did was shit up the thread and create confusion, while doing nothing to further town objectives edit: and it obviously succeeded, so well done. But it was definitely not townie :p I didn't take offence. LOL. I know I am bad. So whatever advice can help me Improve I will avidly listen to | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
With regards to you specifically, there were a couple of things that you could improve on: 1) you posted masses at the beginning, and then your posting dropped off markedly. Private life aside, this is a pretty big tell (BloodyC0bbler had you pegged as scum because of this) 2) At some point you said you were too lazy to make a case on someone. This is a tell for you particularly, because in that Newbie game you were the precise opposite of lazy as town with GK + co. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
On September 25 2012 00:48 marvellosity wrote: Hey, you won as mafia at lylo. Doesn't seem too shabby to me. With regards to you specifically, there were a couple of things that you could improve on: 1) you posted masses at the beginning, and then your posting dropped off markedly. Private life aside, this is a pretty big tell (BloodyC0bbler had you pegged as scum because of this) 2) At some point you said you were too lazy to make a case on someone. This is a tell for you particularly, because in that Newbie game you were the precise opposite of lazy as town with GK + co. Heh. I didn't lie about why I was absent. But I'll take it onboard. I don't know if it is because making cases is more difficult as scum or I am getting burnt out or something. But I was honestly too lazy to do cases like I did in my other games. Yeah Hapa PM'd me and pegged me as scum from that also. Obviously I need to work on it. Especially with the way you guys seem to use meta so much. I need to make my scum game the same as my town game. Thanks for the tips | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 25 2012 00:54 DarthPunk wrote: Heh. I didn't lie about why I was absent. But I'll take it onboard. I don't know if it is because making cases is more difficult as scum or I am getting burnt out or something. But I was honestly too lazy to do cases like I did in my other games. Yeah Hapa PM'd me and pegged me as scum from that also. Obviously I need to work on it. Especially with the way you guys seem to use meta so much. I need to make my scum game the same as my town game. Thanks for the tips It's precisely that, because as scum you know your cases are a lie, whereas as town your cases are honest. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On September 25 2012 00:48 marvellosity wrote: Hey, you won as mafia at lylo. Doesn't seem too shabby to me. With regards to you specifically, there were a couple of things that you could improve on: 1) you posted masses at the beginning, and then your posting dropped off markedly. Private life aside, this is a pretty big tell (BloodyC0bbler had you pegged as scum because of this) 2) At some point you said you were too lazy to make a case on someone. This is a tell for you particularly, because in that Newbie game you were the precise opposite of lazy as town with GK + co. most people actually treat the 2nd one as a major towntell because most mafias (especially new ones) are to scared to say something like that and they HAVE to be aware of what they're posting whereas townies sometimes (or "all the time", pick accordingly) post without thinking for a second. So most people really treat it as 1) unlikely a mafia would post that although it's obviously a flawed argument 2) likely a townie would post that No idea how he played in his last game though I wouldn't say that post was bad at all. Everyone changes something pretty much every game. It's never about whether or not something is right or wrong, it's just about what people make of it and in this case most people usually take it as a towntell. For some reason people also think talking about townreads is something "good" or talking nonstop about your reads in general (remember that one big list post with reads about everyone that basicly said "everyone's a null for me"? That was awful and I would have insta-vigged him as a townie day-vig) but that's another topic :p | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
On September 25 2012 00:55 marvellosity wrote: It's precisely that, because as scum you know your cases are a lie, whereas as town your cases are honest. hmm. I don't want to Sacrifice my town game for my scum game. I guess I just have to suck it up and do the hard work if I want to be any good at this. But yeah. Scum is way harder to play then town. For me at least. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On September 25 2012 00:59 DarthPunk wrote: hmm. I don't want to Sacrifice my town game for my scum game. I guess I just have to suck it up and do the hard work if I want to be any good at this. But yeah. Scum is way harder to play then town. For me at least. don't try to find scum as mafia, that's not possible and people will realize that. Try to find scummy behavior as mafia. Townies play scummy all the time. That requires reading though, which is the hardest part of playing mafia I guess. You know you don't have to figure people out after all so getting motivated really is harder than getting motivated as a townie. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
I assumed because I have never been in a game where it didn't say miller-type are unaware and palmars wording of the OP with the roles being exact there and only there that this was different... Meh it wasted a full 3 days lynching people cause of the chaos | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
On September 25 2012 01:02 Toadesstern wrote: don't try to find scum as mafia, that's not possible and people will realize that. Try to find scummy behavior as mafia. Townies play scummy all the time. That requires reading though, which is the hardest part of playing mafia I guess. You know you don't have to figure people out after all so getting motivated really is harder than getting motivated as a townie. That is good advice. Thanks. I tend to agree with you that it is harder to be motivated as scum. But I could totally just find scummy townies instead of trying to fake it, or just not really scum hunt at all like I did this game. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 25 2012 01:08 DarthPunk wrote: That is good advice. Thanks. I tend to agree with you that it is harder to be motivated as scum. But I could totally just find scummy townies instead of trying to fake it, or just not really scum hunt at all like I did this game. Yeah, I think there are few people who genuinely really enjoy playing scum. People like VE, Ace. Maybe wbg? I'm sure a couple of others. I'm pretty ok at scum but I waaaay prefer playing town. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On September 25 2012 01:08 DarthPunk wrote: That is good advice. Thanks. I tend to agree with you that it is harder to be motivated as scum. But I could totally just find scummy townies instead of trying to fake it, or just not really scum hunt at all like I did this game. Yeah as mentioned: This game had a shitton of townies who played scummy like crazy and getting rid of those instead of lynching vets like I (obviously) wanted would have been way better for town but it would have also given you a lot of oppertunities to just blend in there pointing at 2 or 3 townies, pointing out a bunch of mistakes / bad play, mix in one of your allies who plays alike and end in "there's no way those 4 people are posting like this as town. That's too many inconsistencies to be random-(bad)luck" and you're good to go. Obviously that's very basic advice and if you post like that you're going to get lynched but it's okay as a roadmap and you can change things up or make it fancy as you go, but that's the basic idea. On September 25 2012 01:17 marvellosity wrote: Yeah, I think there are few people who genuinely really enjoy playing scum. People like VE, Ace. Maybe wbg? I'm sure a couple of others. I'm pretty ok at scum but I waaaay prefer playing town. screw you. I'm not in that list? What's wrong with you  | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
It was like 10 minutes in the game and I vote sloOsh out of nowhere who ended up being the other Assassin. Must have looked pretty fishy for Assassin-#1 to vote Assassin-#2 within a couple of minutes :p Besides that, that opening was awesome. Literally the best opening I ever saw. Noone was talking about set-up bullshit and everyone was talking about the game instead. Quickest start to a game ever. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
I don't see how he could have been pegged as scum up until day 3. o that's right, I can edit now  | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
On September 25 2012 04:37 Z-BosoN wrote: problem with darthpunk saying he was too lazy to make a case is because everyone was too fucking lazy to make a case... I don't see how he could have been pegged as scum up until day 3. o that's right, I can edit now How would you have pegged me on day 3? Was it my drop off in activity? | ||
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