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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On August 26 2012 03:44 Lvdr wrote: Can i get a sound off of who is here? I'm here at least until the night post | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
WeeTee (1): thrawn2112 kushm4sta (2): Shady Sands, WeeTee lvdr (1): mkfuba07 Shady Sands (1): Spaghetticus Dandel Ion (2): lvdr, alsn With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Presently, no one is set to be lynched! ~2 hours remain in Day 1! Dandel Ion, kushm4sta have yet to vote! e: I swear, the guy writing these posts is an idiot. Time left fix'd. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Dandel Ion is one of the most experienced players in this game, yet he has also been one of the most lurky. He has offered almost nothing but filler posts to appear active while doing basically no scumhunting. He is much too experienced to be as passive as he has been. The only time he has offered a FOS it has been to lightly suspect me, at a time when it was EXTREMELY safe to do so. This is a flat out lie. I have played a SINGLE game of mafia so far. (not counting the half-day that got restarted) lvdr, shady and mkfuba have all played more games, thrawn just as many. I didn't really push anyone but you yet, since all the "cases" so far were pretty much just screaming "bad newbie" to me, instead of "scum". Then there was you VS Shady, which I consider to have not much to do with this game. Well, since that is the extent of your case, I consider it adressed. Since you all seem to want my reads, here we go. (thoughts on other people coming after this, I'm getting pretty annoyed by the whole OMGOMG I'M WAITING FOR HIS POST, so I just decided to split it up.) WeeTee: The extent of his first ~10 posts was either 1) insulting people, 2) not contributing or 3) both. His last post (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=14#266) reads to me like he's just trying to secure a lynch on somebody else, no matter who it is I will put a FoS on Alsn for this But it is undeniable that kushm4sta is rubbing everyone the wrong way. Let me know what you think about Alsn Fos-ing Kush, Does Alsn see an easy opportunity to take someone out? and why is he the only one that chirped up for the obvious? In an earlier post, he FoS'd Alsn for going for the "easy lynch". Behold, just a little later he is doing the SAME thing, to the SAME person. Even though he soft-defended him earlier. The only other thing he has done so far is argue with thrawn. He's not contributing and contradicting his own words. Thus, Weetee is my strongest scum read at the moment | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
##Vote WeeTee | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
I am also looking askance at kush for not voting at all!! or being in the thread!! As far as I can tell, Shady is MIA as well. | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
On August 26 2012 03:52 Dandel Ion wrote: To start things off, responding to lvdr's case: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=15#285 This is a flat out lie. I have played a SINGLE game of mafia so far. (not counting the half-day that got restarted) lvdr, shady and mkfuba have all played more games, thrawn just as many. I didn't really push anyone but you yet, since all the "cases" so far were pretty much just screaming "bad newbie" to me, instead of "scum". Then there was you VS Shady, which I consider to have not much to do with this game. Well, since that is the extent of your case, I consider it adressed. Since you all seem to want my reads, here we go. (thoughts on other people coming after this, I'm getting pretty annoyed by the whole OMGOMG I'M WAITING FOR HIS POST, so I just decided to split it up.) WeeTee: The extent of his first ~10 posts was either 1) insulting people, 2) not contributing or 3) both. His last post (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=14#266) reads to me like he's just trying to secure a lynch on somebody else, no matter who it is In an earlier post, he FoS'd Alsn for going for the "easy lynch". Behold, just a little later he is doing the SAME thing, to the SAME person. Even though he soft-defended him earlier. The only other thing he has done so far is argue with thrawn. He's not contributing and contradicting his own words. Thus, Weetee is my strongest scum read at the moment I think we can safely bandwagon onto Dandel now. Please lynch I take full responsibility!! First of all, dandel tries to claim my case is mostly about experience or meta reads. Let me be clear: Dandel's filter has HARDCORE LURKING in it. Scummy, mafia, lurking. Second, I think a good case has been laid out for WeeTee being a BAD choice of D1 lynch. Dandel's vote here is essentially 'I pick the more scummy of kush vs. WeeTee.' This also SCREAMS mafia. Also, if you read the end of Newbie III D1 (second time around) you see that Dandel is capable of decisive action towards a quality lynch for town. WeeTee is not a quality lynch! | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On August 26 2012 04:01 Lvdr wrote: Dandel's vote here is essentially 'I pick the more scummy of kush vs. WeeTee.' This also SCREAMS mafia. I'm not seeing it, where did you get that from? | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
##Vote WeeTee | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On August 26 2012 04:10 kushm4sta wrote: Ahhh sorry guys I was sleeping. Yup I'm going to vote for WeeTee because I defended him then he voted for me?? That is an awful reason to vote for him. Your vote needs to be based on more than you being pissed off. At some point you're going to HAVE to start being more reasonable or you will eventually get lynched. ##FOS kushm4sta | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Alsn is my strongest town read at the moment. Posts well thought-out cases, seems to think about the game, nothing even remotely scummy. Just good play. thrawn is being very active, but doesn't do "that much" actual scum-hunting. "that much" means in relation to his post-count. He did contribute though, and I get a solid town read on him. mkfuba has been relatively quiet compared to thrawn/Alsn/lvdr, but he has contributed, and not shown flaws of logic. most likely town. Spag has been the least active of those, in terms of posts. But I don't see anything in his posts that suggests he's scum. They also had good quality. Out of my town reads, he's closest to being a null-read, but I think it more likely he's town. About 60 : 40 if you don't mind me putting it in %. Null reads: Shady seems quick to jump onto people, for seemingly no strong reason. (This is actually indicative of his town "meta", when he was scum against me in XXIII, he was far more hesitant and reserved. I don't put too much stock into meta in general though) Had a big argument with lvdr for no apparant reason, except that they most likely carried the argument over from the other game. I don't like it, but I don't think it's scummy per se. kush: I am reserving what to think about him until day 2. It's useless to speculate on him now, we'll see if his claim holds true or not. There's no rush here. For the record, I don't and didn't believe him. It's a possibility, but I'm not buying it yet. But since he is a terrible day 1 lynch, I won't vote him. lvdr's interactions with Shady are null to me, as I already outlined. He's been active and tried to keep the discussion alive day 1, which would be good for town, but he's done it in a... weird way, like his whole "shady is town" spiel at the start. I wouldn't be confident about him one way or the other. As I write this, he's trying very hard to get my lynched. Maybe I'll have to change my judgement on him very soon, but for now I'll leave what I wrote in. That leaves WeeTee as my only scum read atm. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On August 26 2012 04:09 Lvdr wrote: Dandel had to make a pick for his vote. Kush and WeeTee have been two of the most scrutinized players, and they are by far the most obvious and non-controversial targets. He needs to provide a better lynch target than himself and those two are the major possibilities. To be fair, the current options are kush, weetee, yourself, himself, and shady. Most of us have made it clear that they don't want to vote for Shady atm, he won't vote for himself, most people have issues with my case (which I am agreeing with now that I feel you're contributing) and that leaves WeeTee and kush. | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
Dandel actually looks scummy. I don't know wtf kush is doing, but the first move is to pick off Dandel! | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
Seconding the ##FoS on kushm4sta for his rage vote. We're really trying to give you a chance to step up. Don't OMGUS vote, don't use only WIFOM to support your reasoning, and actually comment on something that isn't a direct threat to you. Townies defend themselves most strongly through their actions, and you've been doing it in a pretty scummy way. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On August 26 2012 04:01 Lvdr wrote: I think we can safely bandwagon onto Dandel now. Please lynch I take full responsibility!! First of all, dandel tries to claim my case is mostly about experience or meta reads. Let me be clear: Dandel's filter has HARDCORE LURKING in it. Scummy, mafia, lurking. Second, I think a good case has been laid out for WeeTee being a BAD choice of D1 lynch. Dandel's vote here is essentially 'I pick the more scummy of kush vs. WeeTee.' This also SCREAMS mafia. Also, if you read the end of Newbie III D1 (second time around) you see that Dandel is capable of decisive action towards a quality lynch for town. WeeTee is not a quality lynch! Are you even reading my responses? It was 2 paragraphs: 1 saying you LIED about the experience thing. 1 saying I didn't HAVE strong reads to push. just "bad-town" reads. I was also too busy to spam this thread with useless posts like you did, hence why I'm "Lurking" Make up your mind. You attack some for being too fast to push for easy and obvious lynches, you attack me for not pushing easy and obvious lynches. I think you are trying very hard to cover up your blatant lie with your spam right now. And I can't see a town motivation for that. | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
On August 26 2012 04:18 mkfuba07 wrote: To be fair, the current options are kush, weetee, yourself, himself, and shady. Most of us have made it clear that they don't want to vote for Shady atm, he won't vote for himself, most people have issues with my case (which I am agreeing with now that I feel you're contributing) and that leaves WeeTee and kush. This is so spot on. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On August 26 2012 04:09 Lvdr wrote: Dandel had to make a pick for his vote. Kush and WeeTee have been two of the most scrutinized players, and they are by far the most obvious and non-controversial targets. He needs to provide a better lynch target than himself and those two are the major possibilities. Kush is not an option for me day 1. It'd be far better to leave him until day 2. I don't wanna risk him being the JK, no matter how small I think this risk is. (and as I said, I do think it small) weetee is my ONLY real option right now, apart from maybe shady or you. I ain't gonna vote my town reads. And I'd much rather vote a scum read, than a null read. | ||
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