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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 16:30 GMT
#1561
With the amount of people complaining about roles being fucked with I don't think Mattchew is lying about last night tbh
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 28 2012 16:32 GMT
#1562
On August 29 2012 01:30 Drazerk wrote:
With the amount of people complaining about roles being fucked with I don't think Mattchew is lying about last night tbh


I don't particularly either, was just pointing out that we shouldn't exclude it as a possibility. I've also mentioned my bizarre gym badge idea (Giovanni WAS part of Toad's role, and we didn't see that part of the PM after all), as well as the possibility of extended confusion.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 16:36 GMT
#1563
On August 29 2012 01:32 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 01:30 Drazerk wrote:
With the amount of people complaining about roles being fucked with I don't think Mattchew is lying about last night tbh


I don't particularly either, was just pointing out that we shouldn't exclude it as a possibility. I've also mentioned my bizarre gym badge idea (Giovanni WAS part of Toad's role, and we didn't see that part of the PM after all), as well as the possibility of extended confusion.


Badges only effect traded pokemon

this would mean the following evolution lines -

Town Ekins
Town Oddish
Town Mankey
Town Growlife
Town Syther
Town Electrabuzz

Scum Sandrew
Scum Vulpix
Scum Belsprout
Scum Magmar
Scum Pinsir
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 16:37 GMT
#1564
Wait I forgot Meowth lol
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 16:42 GMT
#1565
add these regardless of alignment -

Mr. Mime
Nidoran (F)
Nidoran
Lickitung
Jynx
Farfetch'd
Seel
Electrode
Tangela
Abra
Nidoran (M)
Nidorino
Slowbro
Poliwhirl
Spearow
Ponyta
Raichu
Venonat

Now that I think about it almost all pokemon would have been effected by a gym badge effect T_T
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
August 28 2012 16:44 GMT
#1566
On August 29 2012 01:29 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 01:26 Dirkzor wrote:
So your conclusion is that Mattchew is lying?


My conclusion is that it's possible, and comes with the other possibilities that also came to mind. Why are you trying to turn me saying "plausible" into me saying "absolutely"?


I didn't. I asked if I had understood what you wrote correctly. Why are you trying to make it sound like I'm putting words in your mouth? (See what I did there?)

Anyway I believe Mattchew hit trying to kill wiggles and me as he said he was. Doesn't make him town though. Just makes him not a liar.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 28 2012 16:44 GMT
#1567
I know badges only affect traded pokemon as a rule, but my whole point is we don't know what's up with the Giovanni thing, and it's dangerous to make assumptions. It could be purely a GF type role flavor, it could be badge related, we don't know.

What we do know is that powers seem vaguely unreliable lately, whether that's due to interference from scum or some external mechanic we're not aware of.

Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
August 28 2012 16:44 GMT
#1568
Draz I have no clue what you are talking about. I've never played that much pokemon so care to explain it in full?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 28 2012 16:46 GMT
#1569
On August 29 2012 01:44 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 01:29 JingleHell wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:26 Dirkzor wrote:
So your conclusion is that Mattchew is lying?


My conclusion is that it's possible, and comes with the other possibilities that also came to mind. Why are you trying to turn me saying "plausible" into me saying "absolutely"?


I didn't. I asked if I had understood what you wrote correctly. Why are you trying to make it sound like I'm putting words in your mouth? (See what I did there?)

Anyway I believe Mattchew hit trying to kill wiggles and me as he said he was. Doesn't make him town though. Just makes him not a liar.


I'm not putting words in your mouth. Your "clarification" ignored so much of what I said as to cease being paraphrasing, and start being a blatant misquotation.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 16:48 GMT
#1570
On August 29 2012 01:44 JingleHell wrote:
I know badges only affect traded pokemon as a rule, but my whole point is we don't know what's up with the Giovanni thing, and it's dangerous to make assumptions. It could be purely a GF type role flavor, it could be badge related, we don't know.

What we do know is that powers seem vaguely unreliable lately, whether that's due to interference from scum or some external mechanic we're not aware of.



Mewtwo also died which adds even more possibilities :S
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 16:48 GMT
#1571
On August 29 2012 01:44 Dirkzor wrote:
Draz I have no clue what you are talking about. I've never played that much pokemon so care to explain it in full?


If you trade pokemon you need badges for them to obey you - all the pokemon I listed are traded pokemon
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
August 28 2012 17:01 GMT
#1572
On August 29 2012 01:48 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 01:44 Dirkzor wrote:
Draz I have no clue what you are talking about. I've never played that much pokemon so care to explain it in full?


If you trade pokemon you need badges for them to obey you - all the pokemon I listed are traded pokemon
Was this a first generation rule? I rememeber a few evolutions were only possible after trades, but nothing about badges.

Fe fi fo fum.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 17:02 GMT
#1573
On August 29 2012 02:01 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 01:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:44 Dirkzor wrote:
Draz I have no clue what you are talking about. I've never played that much pokemon so care to explain it in full?


If you trade pokemon you need badges for them to obey you - all the pokemon I listed are traded pokemon
Was this a first generation rule? I rememeber a few evolutions were only possible after trades, but nothing about badges.



Its why you actually get badges in the games
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 17:02 GMT
#1574
Oh and to learn surf / cut I guess
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 28 2012 17:03 GMT
#1575
On August 29 2012 02:01 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 01:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:44 Dirkzor wrote:
Draz I have no clue what you are talking about. I've never played that much pokemon so care to explain it in full?


If you trade pokemon you need badges for them to obey you - all the pokemon I listed are traded pokemon
Was this a first generation rule? I rememeber a few evolutions were only possible after trades, but nothing about badges.



Yes, it's just that the levels on the badges were absurd, so you were really unlikely to have trouble with it unless you got something WAY the fuck above your level passed to you, and then actually tried to use it, which would have just screwed the rest of your pokemon over.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 28 2012 17:03 GMT
#1576
Actually, IIRC, aside from HMs and traded pokemon, there was no other use for badges first gen, all the crazy stuff came later, didn't it?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 17:05 GMT
#1577
On August 29 2012 02:03 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 02:01 austinmcc wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:44 Dirkzor wrote:
Draz I have no clue what you are talking about. I've never played that much pokemon so care to explain it in full?


If you trade pokemon you need badges for them to obey you - all the pokemon I listed are traded pokemon
Was this a first generation rule? I rememeber a few evolutions were only possible after trades, but nothing about badges.



Yes, it's just that the levels on the badges were absurd, so you were really unlikely to have trouble with it unless you got something WAY the fuck above your level passed to you, and then actually tried to use it, which would have just screwed the rest of your pokemon over.


In first generation you only need to use Blastoise (Red / Blue) or Nidoking + Zapdos (For yellow) to beat the entire game (HM slaves excluded)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 17:05 GMT
#1578
On August 29 2012 02:03 JingleHell wrote:
Actually, IIRC, aside from HMs and traded pokemon, there was no other use for badges first gen, all the crazy stuff came later, didn't it?


There is no other use for badges even in fifth gen other than story triggers
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 28 2012 17:06 GMT
#1579
On August 29 2012 02:05 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 02:03 JingleHell wrote:
Actually, IIRC, aside from HMs and traded pokemon, there was no other use for badges first gen, all the crazy stuff came later, didn't it?


There is no other use for badges even in fifth gen other than story triggers


Nah, there's stat boosts in some of them.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 17:08 GMT
#1580
ok they gave stat boosts up until 3rd generation
In D/P you can't buy revives until you have 4 badges
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