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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 28 2012 07:07 GMT
#1521
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 28 2012 07:09 GMT
#1522
On August 28 2012 06:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Really?

REALLY?

REALLY????????????
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 28 2012 07:40 GMT
#1523
On August 28 2012 10:29 Zephirdd wrote:
I'm pretty sure the reasoning is that he has a DT ability or that he created my role and knows exactly why I'm playing this way.

You claimed medic day one and I know it wasn't a bad play, so yes, I created your overpowered role!
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
August 28 2012 08:04 GMT
#1524
On August 28 2012 16:09 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 06:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Really?

REALLY?

REALLY????????????


Really? Now you care? You haven't cared all game long. The only reason you aren't dead yet is because everyone else also look like scum. You have been useless and almost invisible this game. So clap yourself on the shoulder and go back to hiding.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 28 2012 11:51 GMT
#1525
On August 28 2012 17:04 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 16:09 Kenpachi wrote:
On August 28 2012 06:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Really?

REALLY?

REALLY????????????


Really? Now you care? You haven't cared all game long. The only reason you aren't dead yet is because everyone else also look like scum. You have been useless and almost invisible this game. So clap yourself on the shoulder and go back to hiding.

You know, i saw this game won from day 1. I had nothing to say, everything i wanted to say had already been said. So I just agreed with some things and tried to let bandwagons flow the right direction

BUT NOOOOOOOO
you guys were stupid enough to lynch an almost confirmed town
U KIDDIN ME?
what the fuck?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 11:51 GMT
#1526
On August 28 2012 06:09 Kurumi wrote:
Drazzie how do I evolve?
t-t


Don't use harden for two cycles in a row. For people in the thread - if Kurumi uses harden he becomes immune to lynches so yeah shoot him in the face but unable to do anything for the rest of the game so he will be stuck in an eternal harden loop.

As for the VE lynch... this is why we lynch the scum in front of us rather than the last minute cases brought forth by someone who half of you was voting for and even used the shot as a reason to call him scum which I told everyone to ignore for obvious reasons.

So here is how tomorrow will work. We shoot Misder or Kenpachi or any other shit lurker tonight and we all become MUCH MUCH MUCH more active ( If you have less than 10 pages filter by the next cycle you're doing it wrong (No I don't care if it makes the thread hard to read for you lazy asses long discussions are good and its something we horribly need at the moment) ) and we lynch the scum in front of us like Misder.

And non of us go to sleep during the deadline times no matter how tired I am.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
August 28 2012 11:59 GMT
#1527
I know your filter is long, but how come you start berating the rest of us when you did close to nothing yourself d3?

While I do agree that everyone should be more active you can't go around throwing rocks when you yourself live in a house made of glass.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 12:04 GMT
#1528
Sleeping during the only period of time where there was any activity at all... yeah thats why I did nothing.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
August 28 2012 12:09 GMT
#1529
If one of these people don't die and flip scum tonight I will be pissed:

Misder
Grush
BioSC
Kenpachi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 28 2012 12:12 GMT
#1530
I am not shooting tonight.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 12:13 GMT
#1531
On August 28 2012 21:12 Mattchew wrote:
I am not shooting tonight.


Why?
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
August 28 2012 12:14 GMT
#1532
On August 28 2012 21:12 Mattchew wrote:
I am not shooting tonight.


Do you not trust jinglehell?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
August 28 2012 12:27 GMT
#1533
Mattchew. Just shoot. Even if Jinglehell is scum, redirect your shot you still have a change to kill someone. Also Jingle might not even be scum. Just don't claim who you shoot before night ends and it will all be wifom if he should redirect you or not.

Shoot away!
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
August 28 2012 12:27 GMT
#1534
chance to kill someone who is scum*
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
August 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#1535
Okay drazark. Lets crank up the activity. I know its night and all but we have to start somewhere.

You have mentioned Misder more then once and that we should kill him. You never said why or mentioned any case on him. Explain to my why you think he is scum.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 28 2012 13:17 GMT
#1536
Shooting is irresponsible and selfish as hell, I have yet to actually hit my target and now jingle said he didn't misdirect my last shot which means scum could be picking my target. I refuse to shoot until this is figured out, I don't want my shots to result in the death of town
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
August 28 2012 13:24 GMT
#1537
I think all night actions are random. Something fishy is up with the night actions in some way since my action night 1 didn't really do what it was supposed to do.

Yes i just claimed to have night actions O_o
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 13:44 GMT
#1538
On August 28 2012 21:51 Dirkzor wrote:
Okay drazark. Lets crank up the activity. I know its night and all but we have to start somewhere.

You have mentioned Misder more then once and that we should kill him. You never said why or mentioned any case on him. Explain to my why you think he is scum.


I don't mention cases generally since I demand people read the thread and when the cases are in place its obvious I've read them and based my opinions from them its rarely my job to convince people to join a bandwagon I simply jump up and down and shout at people until they vote for who I want.

It looks like he knows more than us (This post stuck out for me especially)

On August 25 2012 04:37 Misder wrote:
Really, this lynch is between 3 townies. This is ridiculous.



he has been jumping on bandwagons (Latest one)

On August 28 2012 05:50 Misder wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 28 2012 05:10 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 04:24 Mementoss wrote:
On August 28 2012 04:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On August 28 2012 04:10 BioSC wrote:
Whelp. As it turns out, MLG weekend + TI2 Weekend plus lots of procrastinated homework means one inactive Bio. Combine that with a general "woe is me" about my reads in general makes it hard to put forth the effort. Well, here we go again.

My 2 choices are misder or VE. Misder for his active lurking + the play around the time of yesterday's lynch.

VE, because the case by HiroPro
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 27 2012 09:03 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 07:34 Mementoss wrote:
On August 27 2012 07:31 HiroPro wrote:
hm, wiggles sounds legitimately annoyed. Can't decide whether to kill biosc or misder, drrrr.

##Unvote


What are your thoughts on VE /dirkzor


I haven't really read much since Toad died, so fresh look and all lol.

Dirkzor I think is town. His early play I think was mostly just because of how much pressure he was under from BC and I think he's actually trying to contribute.

I think VE is scum now for a couple of reasons.

First, the thing with grush still strikes me as really uncharacteristic of town VE. VE is someone who throws out policy lynches as town, but it's almost always "if we have no strong scum reads, we should lynch a lurker". For him to push a policy lynch on a person for their play in other games is just mind-boggling. VE has always emphasized that there is no such thing as an "useless townie" because they're still a member of town to count against the mafia wincon, yet now his views have suddenly flipped. If you look at the LVI postgame (the last game with VE and grush in it), there's nothing to suggest that VE was unduly mad. Yes, I know he made some comment pregame about how grush would likely just lurk and troll, but at least before VE pushed the policy lynch, grush had seemed ok in activity and was at least responding to others.

Next looking at the whole Wiggles-BC feud: Beforehand VE had said that he thought Wiggles was scum. But then when the cases come out, literally the only thing VE has to say about those two cases is a mild dislike of one of BC's points. Otherwise he just says afterward " BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched" and "Then he's absent for half of today, only to build a case against one of town's stronger scumhunters and disappear again.". That doesn't look like VE analyzing someone's play and reaching a conclusion based on that. It looks like him making a preconceived judgement and fitting what happens around it.

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 17:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why does BC keep referencing Bugs' post as if Bugs is accusing Wiggles? He's said it twice I think now, and I don't think Bugs was accusing Wiggles at all.


Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 18:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
But it won't be - Bugs is alive to say "no guy, I think Wiggles is town (as my post indicates), LTR"

That's my point - it won't be Bugs' fault at all.


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:16 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:11 grush57 wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:09 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles

Nah, Wiggles attacking bc is a null tell in my opinion. Look at the timing of this hit, if they wanted to kill bc they would do it faster, it smells like a frame to me.

Yeah I considered that aswell, but wiggles has been scummy HMMMMMMMMMMMM idk man

also biosc where u been at man!

Wiggles scummy ? He seems the only person devoting his time to this game. Some guys dont have enough time , yadda yadda. Although his theory on the lynch sounds wrong... Well I think Dirk is scum based on one post... I did not vote him because of my doubts (his points about viscera were good) it is hard to reread the thread on the phone, eh.


Is this a joke? First of all, Wiggles posted like ONE time D1, and that was to vote me and DISAPPEAR. He had NO inclination to affect the lynch yesterday and, as Bugs and Wiggles will tell you, scum seemed to be perfectly content with the way the wagons were going too.

Then he's absent for half of today, only to build a case against one of town's stronger scumhunters and disappear again.

In what way is Wiggles "devoting his time to this game"?

This is strikingly similar to his play in LV - vote, disappear, return to build a case, vote, disappear. I'm voting Mr.Wiggles because I think he's scum. I hope you guys will join me.


Then, the amount of times VE promises thoughts and reads but then when he comes back has pretty much nothing useful to say.

I know someone is going to bring up the shot done by Toad, but frankly I think it could just be separation. Toad knew it was only 0.5 KP and not going to pose a threat to VE actually dying.

Maybe I'm being an idiot right now in ignoring BC lol, but it's not like I've been doing anything this game for some time now.

##Vote VisceraEyes


Makes sense to me.

And the more I go through cases and stuff, the less confident I am about them. Great.

Tell you what. I'm going to go sheep the veteran flipped townie. My reads are shit and I know it.

##Vote Wiggles

Ahahahahahahahaha


Now that your here who do you think are scum.

VE is scum.

Day 1 he came out posting about policy lynching Grush. His reasons were not based on alignment. He put the onus of scumhunting onto other people, telling them it was their responsibility to convince him to lynch someone other than grush. Not convince him that their targets were scummier than grush, because his policy lynch wasn't based on grush being scummy, just that it would be better to try to lynch scum than a random person.

After he was rightfully called out on his posting, VE pulled a 180. Some kind of sentiment that VE was town was created, as he very quickly jumped in between three different targets, with only one of them being somewhat original. What puts me off about this, is how quick of a turn-around it was and how badly it reeked of wanting to appease the people out for his blood. First, VE didn't defend his policy lynch on Grush, he just jumped to accusing other people after being accused. As well, VE didn't just accuse one person and attempt to get them lynched, he made a big show of jumping in-between three different targets and saying that he thought all of them were scum. This looks a lot like he was trying to go, "Hey, look at me! I'm scumhunting!", especially when contrasted with his play earlier. So, it looks as though the sudden spurt in apparent scum hunting and effort was made to avoid pressure, which makes sense, since after Day 1 the pressure dropped and so did the contributions from VE.

After Day 1, the "scumhunting effort" from VE stopped. His play from then on has consisted of sheeping the lynch sentiment against myself and Misder while adding nothing of value to the cases against either of us. As pointed out by others, VE has been making promises of contribution, but has not been keeping them. Notably, making a case against either myself or Misder. As well, he failed to comment on either my case against BC or BC's defense and case against me while BC was alive. VE makes this post:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 16:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Before I comment on your case Wiggles, what do you think of Dirkzor? You derped around and kept your vote on me all day while a townie got lynched, and today you don't even mention the counterwagon except as a footnote in your case on someone else. Do you think Dirkzor is town?

Saying he will comment on my case. However, even though he was in the thread for the next two or so hours, he never comments directly on the case either by myself or BC, even though he has clearly read them. He avoids taking a side in the conflict between us, which supports VE's general play this game of laying low and avoiding attention, especially if his team was already planning on using their shot on BC.

After BC dies, VE comes back and uses the death of BC to put a vote on me. However, read the post where he did so:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles

In this post, VE does not make mention of BC having a good case, or even agreeing with the case BC made against me. Instead he insinuates that the death of BC was a result of trying to get me lynched, and uses the fact that BC has flipped town as a point for people to sheep to in support of him. The point of this post isn't to say that BC made a good case and town should lynch for it, it's to try to manipulate people into voting me because BC wanted to. It relies on an appeal to authority and the assumption that because BC was town, he was correct. Coming from a player with as much experience as VE, this isn't a simple mistake in logic. It's an attempt to cash in on an emotional response to BC dying and flipping town to try to push a mislynch.

As for supporting meta, VE usually plays somewhat aggressively and is very outspoken, to the point where he is often lynched early into the game as he forces focus and attention towards himself. This is markedly different from how he has been playing this game, where he has played very passively and avoided attention. This difference could be explained with role considerations giving VE a reason to act as he is, but VE is not playing in a way that he is contributing to the town while maintaining a low profile, he is instead playing in a way that he only does enough to keep people off his back before sinking into passivity again.

Altogether, this makes him scum.

I like. Still confused why scum would shoot their own scumbuddy (at least the way Toad did it), but I can roll with this.
##Vote: VisceraEyes



all the while he has been actively lurking (Still doesn't have a second page on his filter)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 28 2012 13:44 GMT
#1539
On August 28 2012 22:24 Dirkzor wrote:
I think all night actions are random. Something fishy is up with the night actions in some way since my action night 1 didn't really do what it was supposed to do.

Yes i just claimed to have night actions O_o


I think claiming a power is pretty safe in this game lol
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
August 28 2012 13:53 GMT
#1540
My night action didn't go through for the record either last night. I'm not claiming where or what it was so don't bother.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
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