Dwarf Fortress Mini Mafia - Page 33

Keirathi

United States4679 Posts

August 18 2012 17:13 GMT

#641

On August 19 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
DYH: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/gts8a2CDre3

as you will be able to tell I couldn't tell at all who was scum :/

I accused everyone except for Mord at some point...

What he said. We discussed it a lot after I died, and I could literally make a case on all 5 people at that point.

E: Also a bit of a series of unfortunate events. I actually had ##protect marvellosity typed out night1, but at the last second I changed it to sciberbia because I convinced myself that marv was scum and scib was the clear second choice.

However, that meant that I couldn't prot scib n2 now, when I was 99% sure he was going to be the one killed.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

August 18 2012 18:13 GMT

#642

Huh, I thought that Marv was a safe hit. I'm surprised that you wanted to protect him N1.

Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/ryeZJk6AxwZ

Keirathi

United States4679 Posts

August 18 2012 18:15 GMT

#643

If he was town, he was 99% going to be the hit. I don't see any scum-team out of the available players that would let him live, especially with his recent scum lynch streak.

I just convinced myself at the last second that he wasn't town.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

August 18 2012 18:24 GMT

#644

Good morning gents!

OBS QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/gts8a2CDre3
GOB QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/ryeZJk6AxwZ

Role list:

prplhz: Goon
DoYouHas: Goon
slOosh: Roleblocker

Marvellosity: Watcher
Keirathi: Doctor

HiroPro: VT
Custos Luna: VT
sciberbia: VT
ShiaoPi: VT
Forumite: VT
risk.nuke: VT
Mordanis: VT

Night Actions:

N1:
Scum: Shoot Marvellosity
Keirathi: Protect Sciberbia
Marvellosity: Watch DoYouHas

N2:
Scum: Shoot sciberbia
Keirathi: Protect slOosh

N3:
Scum: Shoot Keirathi
Keirathi: Protect DoYouHas

Keirathi

United States4679 Posts

August 18 2012 18:37 GMT

#645

From scum QT:

slOosh wrote:
Keir is definitely more quiet than usual meta, but I think its probably because this game is so stagnant and it feeds off itself.

Yea, I feel pretty bad about that, but you hit the nail on the head. My lack of motivation kept me from posting more to get conversation running, and the lack of conversation killed my motivation. Catch-22, and I feel pretty terrible for it.

Also: rofl at protecting scum n2 and n3

n2 was basically just a throwaway protect because I was pretty damn sure that scib was going to be hit, and I was pretty sure I wasn't going to want to protect slOosh n3.

The n3 protect was because I started thinking CL was mafia (because lets admit it, he had a lot of extremely scummy plays), and DYH was pushing him the hardest.

In hindsight, I should have been more suspicious of DYH's "Oh yea Keir, good point I agree. ##vote risk".

I dunno, my reads weren't really that great and like I said, at the end I honestly had no clue who the actual scum was because no one had done anything to appear especially townie, and everyone had things that could be construed as scum motivated.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

August 18 2012 18:37 GMT

#646

Holy crap. I got watched N1. I was the one sending in all the kills, so that is scary.

Something that I realized might give me away later was the final vote count from day 1. In a situation where votes are on 2 main candidates, mafia almost always split their vote between them. In this case it was only slightly less likely because prplhz was scum so all scum 'might' have piled onto Forumite. But still, as town, I would have held to the vote splitting theory. Here is where it gets a bit tricky.

prplhz(5): DYH, ~~Marvel~~, ~~Forumite~~, ~~Keirathi~~, ~~risk.nuke~~

After the hit on Keirathi, I was the only one from the original prplhz wagon left alive. All the others were townie. To me, this would have been a major red flag.

But you got to give me a little credit for those blue snipes.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

August 18 2012 18:39 GMT

#647

I was really floundering on what to do day 3. I didn't know who I wanted to go after. That is why I jumped on your wagon so quickly Keirathi. You gave me an out that also got rid of risk for us. Win-win.

Keirathi

United States4679 Posts

August 18 2012 18:43 GMT

#648

On August 19 2012 03:37 DoYouHas wrote:
Something that I realized might give me away later was the final vote count from day 1. In a situation where votes are on 2 main candidates, mafia almost always split their vote between them. In this case it was only slightly less likely because prplhz was scum so all scum 'might' have piled onto Forumite.

Marv and I actually talked about that specifically after I died (and I believe he talked to VE about it to). We were all of the opinion that all 3 piling onto Forumite to save prplhz wouldn't have been a terrible play, because TL Mafia meta in general is that "scum never does obviously bad things".

E: for reference:

+ Show Spoiler [IRC Chat] +

[08/16][16:49:25] <marvellosity> Dwarf is annoying me
[08/16][16:49:51] <marvellosity> i dislike not knowing the answer :<
[08/16][16:49:57] <Laggy> its been annoying me since i made terrible saves and let the two active people get lynched
[08/16][16:49:58] <Laggy> err
[08/16][16:50:00] <Laggy> NKd
[08/16][16:50:11] <Laggy> two active townies*
[08/16][16:50:12] <marvellosity> haha
[08/16][16:50:19] <marvellosity> your day 1 save
[08/16][16:50:20] <marvellosity> was not a bad one
[08/16][16:50:25] <marvellosity> just meant it fucked your day 2 save
[08/16][16:50:32] <Laggy> aye
[08/16][16:51:15] <marvellosity> games like that make it obvious why i get NKd, i mean i'm a reasonable scumhunter, nothing that glam... but i don't let towns go inactive
[08/16][16:51:23] <Laggy> i kind of wish i did save you though
[08/16][16:51:23] <marvellosity> fuck that shit
[08/16][16:51:27] <Laggy> and then wasted my n2 save
[08/16][16:51:31] <Laggy> then saved scib n3
[08/16][16:51:34] <Laggy> would have been epic
[08/16][16:51:39] <marvellosity> hehe
[08/16][16:51:40] <marvellosity> yeah

[08/16][16:51:50] <marvellosity> but like
[08/16][16:51:58] <marvellosity> scib came across townier than me day 1, so what can you do
[08/16][16:52:02] <Laggy> yea
[08/16][16:52:06] <Laggy> hard to make that choice
[08/16][16:52:26] <marvellosity> mm
[08/16][16:52:32] <marvellosity> especially when you had some suspicions of me
[08/16][16:52:34] <marvellosity> if you look back on it
[08/16][16:52:36] <Laggy> like i said, if you *WERE* townie, you were pretty obviously going to be the n1 hit
[08/16][16:52:37] <marvellosity> you can't blame yourself
[08/16][16:52:52] <marvellosity> mm
[08/16][16:53:01] <Laggy> i mean, scib might have been more townie than you, but i don't imagine any scum fancies trying to get you lynched
[08/16][16:53:08] <marvellosity> no
[08/16][16:53:23] <marvellosity> good luck to the one who tries
[08/16][16:53:25] <Laggy> and you were already voting prpl
[08/16][16:53:31] <marvellosity> mm
[08/16][16:53:35] <Laggy> so it made sense from their pov to kill you
[08/16][16:53:36] <marvellosity> in hindsight
[08/16][16:53:37] <marvellosity> yea
[08/16][16:53:40] <marvellosity> with my vote on scum
[08/16][16:53:43] <marvellosity> someone who keeps town active
[08/16][16:53:47] <marvellosity> who the fuck else are you going to vote
[08/16][16:53:52] <Laggy> aye
[08/16][16:53:55] <marvellosity> *NK
[08/16][16:53:59] <marvellosity> but that info isnt in the thread at the time
[08/16][16:54:18] <marvellosity> the day 1 votecount is seriously boggling me
[08/16][16:54:27] <marvellosity> if DYH isn't scum, scum went all-in on Forumite
[08/16][16:54:32] <Laggy> yea :o
[08/16][16:54:48] <marvellosity> more and more
[08/16][16:54:50] <marvellosity> i think
[08/16][16:54:57] <marvellosity> that's not actually a bad play like everyone thinks it is
[08/16][16:55:09] <Laggy> right, because everyone assumes you wouldn't do it
[08/16][16:55:15] <marvellosity> yes
[08/16][16:55:31] <marvellosity> and it's taken until now for it to become even remotely clear it's a possibility
[08/16][16:55:45] <Laggy> meta is clouding people's judgement
[08/16][16:55:59] <Laggy> mafia meta, not individual meta
[08/16][16:56:06] <marvellosity> yeah.
[08/16][16:56:20] <marvellosity> like
[08/16][16:56:29] <marvellosity> if 3 people pile on to scum
[08/16][16:56:40] <marvellosity> how are town supposed to determine the difference between the scum and the other townies??
[08/16][16:56:49] <marvellosity> if there's 2 on and 3 on, what's the difference
[08/16][16:57:10] <marvellosity> *if 3 scum pile on to a candidate
[08/16][16:57:17] <Laggy> yea
[08/16][16:57:30] <Laggy> i think you have to look at their other arguments to make sense of t heir vote
[08/16][16:57:39] <marvellosity> mm
[08/16][16:57:46] <Laggy> not just the vote count itself
[08/16][16:57:46] <marvellosity> it's why DYH's vote on risk was so weak
[08/16][16:57:51] <marvellosity> but so was sloosh's
[08/16][16:57:57] <marvellosity> this is why
[08/16][16:57:58] <Laggy> and mine, to be fair
[08/16][16:57:59] <marvellosity> townies
[08/16][16:58:01] <marvellosity> need to not play
[08/16][16:58:03] <marvellosity> fucking scummily
[08/16][16:58:26] <marvellosity> that's at least as important as benig able to find scum imo
[08/16][16:58:29] <Laggy> yea
[08/16][16:58:36] <Laggy> risk really did fucking NOTHING
[08/16][16:58:42] <Laggy> and then gets pissed when people call him scum
[08/16][16:58:42] <marvellosity> meh
[08/16][16:58:54] <marvellosity> i think i have more exposure to him
[08/16][16:58:55] <marvellosity> remember day 1
[08/16][16:59:01] <marvellosity> when i made the "people who don't care" post
[08/16][16:59:05] <Laggy> yea
[08/16][16:59:09] <marvellosity> it was prplhz/CL, not prplhz/CL/risk
[08/16][16:59:10] <Laggy> and it was just prpl and CL
[08/16][16:59:12] <marvellosity> mm
[08/16][16:59:23] <marvellosity> like
[08/16][16:59:28] <marvellosity> I thought his case on CL was a huge towntell
[08/16][16:59:36] <marvellosity> but i don't blame you at all for not seeing the same
[08/16][17:00:23] <Laggy> it reminded me of mattchew in I Can't Believe
[08/16][17:00:30] <Laggy> how he was just sheeping all of scib's cases
[08/16][17:00:43] <Laggy> well, making a case on the same person
[08/16][17:00:49] <marvellosity> yea don't do that
[08/16][17:00:52] <marvellosity> i used to do that
[08/16][17:00:59] <marvellosity> like
[08/16][17:01:13] <marvellosity> "person A did x and person A was scum, person B is doing x so person B is scum"
[08/16][17:01:22] <marvellosity> it's monumentally misleading
[08/16][17:01:28] <Laggy> yea i know
[08/16][17:01:34] <marvellosity> took me ages to learn it
[08/16][17:01:44] <marvellosity> made quite a few mistakes like that
[08/16][17:02:24] <Laggy> the one thing that made me actually second guess myself about risk was
[08/16][17:02:34] <Laggy> reading through his late-game filter in bureacracy
[08/16][17:02:42] <Laggy> he actually started trying
[08/16][17:02:46] <Laggy> once he was under suspicion
[08/16][17:03:03] <Laggy> in this game he just got angry
[08/16][17:03:11] <marvellosity> hm
[08/16][17:03:15] <marvellosity> i don't think that's much of a tell
[08/16][17:03:31] <marvellosity> the trick with risk
[08/16][17:03:35] <marvellosity> and it's superhard
[08/16][17:03:46] <marvellosity> is to work out if he's at all invested even when it seems like he isn't
[08/16][17:04:21] <Laggy> maybe
[08/16][17:04:31] <Laggy> hard to judge that having never played with them though
[08/16][17:04:34] <Laggy> or even know what to look for
[08/16][17:04:35] <marvellosity> yup
[08/16][17:04:37] <marvellosity> yup
[08/16][17:04:46] <marvellosity> dunno if you saw in QT
[08/16][17:04:56] <marvellosity> where i said that the risk lynch made me suspicious of DYH/sloosh
[08/16][17:05:06] <marvellosity> i.e. the two players who DO know what risk can be like.
[08/16][17:05:36] <Laggy> yea
[08/16][17:05:37] <Laggy> i saw
[08/16][17:05:44] <marvellosity> yea
[08/16][17:05:45] <marvellosity> that was why
[08/16][17:06:15] <marvellosity> do you know who voted prplhz day 2 that dind't day 1 by any chance?
[08/16][17:06:49] <Laggy> i deleted my notes that had my vote-count

[08/16][17:06:55] <Laggy> i can check though
[08/16][17:07:34] <marvellosity> only if it's not too much effort
[08/16][17:09:22] <Laggy> D1: DYH, you, me, forumite, risk.... D2: CL, Keirathi, sciberbia, sloosh, DYH, Mordanis, ShiaoPi
[08/16][17:10:08] <Laggy> so scib, CL, sloosh, mord, shaopi all new...risk not on the vote that time
[08/16][17:10:12] <marvellosity> mm
[08/16][17:10:30] <marvellosity> ugh
[08/16][17:10:52] <Laggy> yea doesnt help much
[08/16][17:11:11] <Laggy> 4 of the 5 people who switched at still alive :p
[08/16][17:11:44] <marvellosity> the interesting thing is where the tipping point is
[08/16][17:11:54] <marvellosity> unfortunately that requieres rereading the thread
[08/16][17:12:05] <marvellosity> i.e. where prplhz was a clear candidate for death
[08/16][17:12:26] <Laggy> well risk voted prplhz like a few hours after the day started
[08/16][17:12:45] <Laggy> then unvoted, and CL voted prpl
[08/16][17:13:00] <Laggy> then DYH made his case on CL and 3'ish people voted for CL
[08/16][17:13:13] <Laggy> then scib made the counter case, and I started the voting back on prpl
[08/16][17:14:12] <marvellosity> so if DYH is scum, it's likely CL is town
[08/16][17:14:30] <Laggy> fair assumption
[08/16][17:14:38] <Laggy> it was a pretty big case that was meant to get him lynched
[08/16][17:14:50] <Laggy> although DYH did give it up *kind* of easily
[08/16][17:15:03] <Laggy> but scib is pretty convincing, so I dunno for sure
[08/16][17:15:31] <Laggy> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15798886 DYH case
[08/16][17:15:56] <marvellosity> thing is
[08/16][17:16:01] <marvellosity> it's a really strong point he makes
[08/16][17:16:03] <marvellosity> on the sheeping
[08/16][17:16:23] <Laggy> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15811636 scib's follow-up that gets everyone back onto prpl
[08/16][17:17:29] <marvellosity> yea
[08/16][17:17:33] <marvellosity> it's why i've been confused on CL
[08/16][17:17:38] <marvellosity> scib makes some good points in his defence
[08/16][17:17:42] <Laggy> yea
[08/16][17:19:43] <Laggy> sometimes i felt like scib and I were sharing a brain in this game :o
[08/16][17:19:56] <Laggy> he would always say exactly what I was thinking
[08/16][17:26:16] <marvellosity> VE thinks all 3 were on foru day 1
[08/16][17:26:43] <Laggy> its quite possible
[08/16][17:27:33] <marvellosity> [23:23:55] <VisceraEyes> So they were probably all on Forumite
[08/16][17:27:34] <marvellosity> [23:23:57] <VisceraEyes> Is my guess
[08/16][17:27:34] <marvellosity> [23:24:04] <marvellosity> hmm
[08/16][17:27:34] <marvellosity> [23:24:08] <VisceraEyes> Mislynch right?
[08/16][17:27:34] <marvellosity> [23:24:10] <VisceraEyes> Forumite town?
[08/16][17:27:34] <marvellosity> [23:24:16] <marvellosity> yea
[08/16][17:27:36] <marvellosity> [23:24:21] <VisceraEyes> Then yeah
[08/16][17:27:38] <marvellosity> [23:24:32] <VisceraEyes> They piled on Forumite to save prplhz
[08/16][17:27:40] <marvellosity> [23:24:41] <VisceraEyes> Occams bro
[08/16][17:30:23] <Laggy> prplhz was leading with 6 votes to 4 on Forumite...then Hiro unvoted prpl and switched to Forumite, and ShiaoPi unvoted Mord and switched to Forumite
[08/16][17:30:29] <Laggy> then the Mord/CL thing
[08/16][17:30:34] <Laggy> made it 7/5
[08/16][17:30:53] <Laggy> err wait
[08/16][17:31:40] <marvellosity> fuck me
[08/16][17:31:41] <marvellosity> what was hiro doing
[08/16][17:31:42] <marvellosity> god damnit
[08/16][17:32:11] <Laggy> 6-3 when Hiro switched, which made it 5-4..then shiaopi made it 5-5
[08/16][17:32:19] <Laggy> yea, no clue
[08/16][17:32:25] <marvellosity> 5-4
[08/16][17:32:33] <marvellosity> ugh
[08/16][17:33:17] <marvellosity> that CL thing
[08/16][17:33:20] <marvellosity> is fucking everything up
[08/16][17:33:29] <Laggy> haha
[08/16][17:33:48] <Laggy> its so fucking dumb for either alignment
[08/16][17:34:15] <Laggy> that its hard to get a read on it
[08/16][17:34:15] <marvellosity> the fact we're discussing it
[08/16][17:34:18] <marvellosity> gives you the scum motivation for it
[08/16][17:35:17] <Laggy> yea, its easy to say "oh scum would never be that bad and call attention to himself" like scib said
[08/16][17:35:38] <Laggy> but if you know everyone is going to dismiss it because its so dumb, then you could pull it off
[08/16][17:35:44] <Laggy> WIFOM at its finest
[08/16][17:35:49] <marvellosity> yes
[08/16][17:35:52] <marvellosity> in LIII
[08/16][17:36:05] <marvellosity> Risen last-minute voteswitched between two candidates
[08/16][17:36:12] <marvellosity> causing the 2nd candidate to get lynched not the first
[08/16][17:36:18] <marvellosity> both candidates were town
[08/16][17:36:20] <marvellosity> Risen was scum
[08/16][17:36:38] <Laggy> haha
[08/16][17:36:47] <marvellosity> yeah
[08/16][17:36:49] <Laggy> yea someone mentioned that
[08/16][17:37:33] <Laggy> i want to play scum
[08/16][17:37:38] <Laggy> and just do all the most obvious things
[08/16][17:37:45] <Laggy> and see how long it takes me to get lynched
[08/16][17:37:54] <Laggy> might not work since i'm a relative newbie though
[08/16][17:38:00] <marvellosity> haha yea :p
[08/16][17:38:04] <marvellosity> VE thinks CL is town
[08/16][17:38:05] <Laggy> and people wouldn't be expecting me to not be dumb
[08/16][17:38:07] <marvellosity> didn't buy into scib's defence
[08/16][17:38:08] <marvellosity> er
[08/16][17:38:10] <marvellosity> CL is scum
[08/16][17:38:41] <Laggy> reading its filter, its really, really easy to make a case for him being scum
[08/16][17:38:45] <Laggy> his filter*
[08/16][17:39:30] <marvellosity> yes
[08/16][17:39:31] <marvellosity> super ez,
[08/16][17:39:54] <Laggy> his WIFOM posts about the NKs really boggled me too
[08/16][17:41:44] <marvellosity> so if we take away the mindboggling stuff
[08/16][17:41:46] <marvellosity> we're still left
[08/16][17:41:49] <marvellosity> with his bizarrre sheeping
[08/16][17:41:52] <marvellosity> and his total about turn on prplhz
[08/16][17:41:54] <marvellosity> right?
[08/16][17:41:59] <Laggy> yes
[08/16][17:42:05] <marvellosity> i mean
[08/16][17:42:07] <marvellosity> that's FACTS
[08/16][17:42:27] <marvellosity> like
[08/16][17:42:35] <marvellosity> his job was to save prplhz day 1 and bus him day 2
[08/16][17:44:10] <Laggy> and he didn't vote for risk on d3, he left his vote on Mordanis

P.S. sorry CL we were a bit harsh on you

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 18 2012 20:26 GMT

#649

[08/16][17:04:46] <marvellosity> dunno if you saw in QT
[08/16][17:04:56] <marvellosity> where i said that the risk lynch made me suspicious of DYH/sloosh
[08/16][17:05:06] <marvellosity> i.e. the two players who DO know what risk can be like.

obviously i didn't put enough weight on to this >.<

edit: and yes, DYH - we realised the voting pattern. But we thought it possible all 3 scum were on Forumite. Prevailing TL meta for that not to be the case is too strong though apparently ;p

edit edit: DoYouHasPerson was signed in when posted
08-07-2012
02:48 PM ET (US)
Initial read: marvelosity is blue

nicely done, DYH.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 18 2012 20:35 GMT

#650

On August 19 2012 03:39 DoYouHas wrote:
I was really floundering on what to do day 3. I didn't know who I wanted to go after. That is why I jumped on your wagon so quickly Keirathi. You gave me an out that also got rid of risk for us. Win-win.

yes, this was a scumtell for you. you had a couple (you had a bizarre post on CL at some point). sadly, so did shiaopi/CL :<

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

August 18 2012 20:42 GMT

#651

The absolutely biggest scum tell from me should have been my meta. If anyone bothered to look at my posting from past games it would have been stupidly obvious that I don't play town like I played this game. The only thing I did this game that looked anything like my town play was my case on CL.

Am I correct in saying what kept people from suspecting me was that case and the fact that I almost got prplhz killed day1? That was an accident btw. I asked him if I could go after him. He said bring it on. Then he almost didn't defend himself. All he had to do was post and my case against him would have been so easy to back off of. But then he didn't start posting and I was stuck bussing him.

E: I really lucked out with having slOosh on my team. He is the person I have played the most with, and we have butted heads a few times. He would have called me out on my meta day 1.

ItsMarvelBabyyy

Vatican City State135 Posts

August 18 2012 20:51 GMT

#652

Well I was dead for most of the game, but

1) I've never really played with you properly before (I remember offing you as scum in LIV I think)
2) the REST of the game was very inactive
3) related to 2), other people were doing scummy things and being inactive too

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

August 18 2012 20:54 GMT

#653

DYH saying that Keirathi's point on risk was good should have gotten him lynched. But honestly the game was over way before that.

Assuming that CL would play in a certain way was really bad on my part; I should have read his games before talking about him but I kind of wanted to say something as I knew I wouldnt be able to post after that. Sorry to everyone about having to leave. It wasnt something I expected to happen.

Town really never did anything, but I think scum played well in sniping the blues and avoid suspicion for pretty much the entire game. Time to read the QTs :/

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

August 18 2012 20:54 GMT

#654

Man, Marv, you really need to get your shit together with this Hydra account.

ItsMarvelBabyyy

Vatican City State135 Posts

August 18 2012 20:55 GMT

#655

why? I don't give a fuck

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

August 18 2012 21:02 GMT

#656

On August 19 2012 05:42 DoYouHas wrote:
The absolutely biggest scum tell from me should have been my meta. If anyone bothered to look at my posting from past games it would have been stupidly obvious that I don't play town like I played this game. The only thing I did this game that looked anything like my town play was my case on CL.

Am I correct in saying what kept people from suspecting me was that case and the fact that I almost got prplhz killed day1? That was an accident btw. I asked him if I could go after him. He said bring it on. Then he almost didn't defend himself. All he had to do was post and my case against him would have been so easy to back off of. But then he didn't start posting and I was stuck bussing him.

E: I really lucked out with having slOosh on my team. He is the person I have played the most with, and we have butted heads a few times. He would have called me out on my meta day 1.

Part of the reason I backed off prplhz was because of how passive you were :/

ShiaoPi

TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts

August 18 2012 21:23 GMT

#657

GG, damn I was sooo on the wrong track and doing scummy stuff all the time....
I played such a terrible game...I should probably just stop playing, feels like I am getting worse from each game to the next

ItsMarvelBabyyy

Vatican City State135 Posts

August 18 2012 21:26 GMT

#658

On August 19 2012 06:23 ShiaoPi wrote:
GG, damn I was sooo on the wrong track and doing scummy stuff all the time....
I played such a terrible game...I should probably just stop playing, feels like I am getting worse from each game to the next

naw, you live and learn. carry on brah <3

sciberbia

United States1359 Posts

August 18 2012 22:46 GMT

#659

gg all. Some thoughts:

Sloosh I was suspicious of because he was so under the radar. I felt like nobody was spending much time in his filter because he didn't give us a good reason to (kudos to him). I thought the death of me was great evidence against him once risk.nuke and HiroPro flipped town. Because I don't know why scum would have wanted me dead if sloosh was also town. Like I'd have just been leading town in all the wrong directions if I were alive D3 and sloosh was town. And they definitely risked a doc save to kill me.

DYH I never saw coming. I dont think any of us did, so we really didn't have a chance. He was one of the few players I didn't do any meta research on. Perhaps that would have helped...
Reasons I thought he was town:
Nearly getting prplhz lynched D1
His whole thought-of-in-the-shower case against CL
Being willing to back off a decent case on CL to kill prplhz

I think I constantly overvalue the correctness of people's reads and the amount of help they were in lynching known scum towards determining their alignment. Really gotta stop doing that..

Also @keirathi
I noticed your sharing-brain comment in irc with marv. I had the exact same feeling lol. Read the obs qt where I had a dream in which you were a mod confirmed super mason. Playing town with you was quite fun. Felt like I always had someone to confirm what I was thinking or let me know if I was misguided. Hope to do it again sometime

And @marv
Well you were killed partially as a blue snipe so hopefully you can forgive me for my analysis. Hope to play town with you sometime where you make it past N1. I always think "damn if only marv were alive he'd know what to do right now". Probably why u get killed in the first place lol

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 18 2012 22:49 GMT

#660

ha, thanks scib, i hope to see you in a day 2 as well. Although the obsQT makes it pretty clear I didn't know what to do! ^_^

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