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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
July 30 2012 16:03 GMT
#21
This game likely wont start before thursday right?

if so /in
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
July 31 2012 01:59 GMT
#25
On July 31 2012 06:49 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 01:03 iamperfection wrote:
This game likely wont start before thursday right?

if so /in


oh shit yeah! How goes it my perfect buddy.

not good lost last game.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 02 2012 23:26 GMT
#66
On August 02 2012 20:14 Promethelax wrote:
to those of you in this game, I want this in my filter before we start.
I generally work
Mon ---
Tues 10a-530p
Wed 7p-6a
Thur 9p-6a
Fri 9p-6a
Sat 7p-6a
Sun ----

Sometimes I work sundays and sometimes those 7s and 9s get switched. I am going to do my best to never mention this in game because I got lynched last game partially for giving too many RL excuses for my absence which I generally feel is good play however I don't want to do it again since it got my lynched when I was town.


fos promthelax

preemptively making excuses for lurking is Mafia behavior.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 06 2012 01:54 GMT
#138
Sup everybody

I have come around in my thinking from previous games and agree that lynching lurkers is a good policy to have. When the town is inactive or loses its active players it is very easy for the scum to start leading the town. In my first game my scum buddies were able to dominate the conversation. In my last game that son of a bitch hapa cost me my perfection and i have been in mourning ever since.

Its redemption time

On August 06 2012 10:12 Shady Sands wrote:
Also, why is Promethelax so quiet? In the last game I played him, he racked up 10 posts in the first six hours of the game.


Alright lets not go accusing people of lurking in the first 2 or so hours into the game. We have 48 hours and while i want to see activity its important to remember this is forum mafia there will be times people can be active and not active.

On August 06 2012 10:24 Lvdr wrote:
I guess I misunderstood. I thought golbat was a mafia that got lynched d1.

I'm really just trying to get some opinions going.

You can easily go back and see the results of that game. takes 2 seconds and now people are going to start questioning your effort
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353315


Speaking of previous games i would like to know how yourharry is going to aproach this game. If we are going to get your logic that makes no sense where your "sure" sombody is town or mafia i say we lynch you know before your logic festers and contaminates the town. One of the reason i lynched calgar in my previous game is because he actually used your logic in his own defense. Unforgivable in my view.

Your thoughts?

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 06 2012 02:04 GMT
#141
On August 06 2012 10:59 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 10:54 iamperfection wrote:
Sup everybody

I have come around in my thinking from previous games and agree that lynching lurkers is a good policy to have. When the town is inactive or loses its active players it is very easy for the scum to start leading the town. In my first game my scum buddies were able to dominate the conversation. In my last game that son of a bitch hapa cost me my perfection and i have been in mourning ever since.

Its redemption time

On August 06 2012 10:12 Shady Sands wrote:
Also, why is Promethelax so quiet? In the last game I played him, he racked up 10 posts in the first six hours of the game.


Alright lets not go accusing people of lurking in the first 2 or so hours into the game. We have 48 hours and while i want to see activity its important to remember this is forum mafia there will be times people can be active and not active.

On August 06 2012 10:24 Lvdr wrote:
I guess I misunderstood. I thought golbat was a mafia that got lynched d1.

I'm really just trying to get some opinions going.

You can easily go back and see the results of that game. takes 2 seconds and now people are going to start questioning your effort
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353315


Speaking of previous games i would like to know how yourharry is going to aproach this game. If we are going to get your logic that makes no sense where your "sure" sombody is town or mafia i say we lynch you know before your logic festers and contaminates the town. One of the reason i lynched calgar in my previous game is because he actually used your logic in his own defense. Unforgivable in my view.

Your thoughts?



I'm not accusing Prome of lurking, I'm just saying that his behavior this game doesn't match up with his behavior last game (when he flipped green) and his behavior in XIX (when he was scum).

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 10:28 Golbat wrote:
On August 06 2012 10:12 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 06 2012 09:13 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Golbat: Welcome!

@ Dandel Ion: I disagree to a certain extent - not all scum will suddenly become active and incriminate themselves to bandwagon a player. Many scum in newbie games are comortable staying out of the thread and never being active. I do not believe that the "sudden activity read" it is an excuse to not be concerned with "scum lurkers" early in the game, and we should smoke-'em out as early as possible.

On August 06 2012 08:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
...
On August 06 2012 08:41 Hapahauli wrote:
I do not agree with not lynching players just by merit of being active. But since it is highly unlikely that we find a big scumslip on day 1 (though one may hope), I would be fine with getting rid of a lurker day 1. I would also be okay with a no-lynch on day 1, since the chances of correctly lynching without information is 25%, so basically it's a crapshoot. But I'll understand if I find few supporters for that idea... Just putting it out there.


No-lynching Day 1 is a terrible terrible idea. Even in the event of a mislynch, town gains so much information from the voting process that even a lynch with "poor odds" is beneficial. Furthermore, I believe town has a higher than 25% chance of lynching mafia if we don't bandwagon on an active/controversial poster (this is where most of the mislynches come from in the recent games I've seen). A no-lynch gives mafia a free night-kill while keeping the town in the dark.

But with scum being able to coordinate themselves, I'd imagine it's very easy for them to force a bandwagon on a townie, no?


I think you over-estimate the power of mafia. Mafia only have 3 votes as opposed to town's 9 votes. Furthermore, if Mafia violently forces a bandwagon, it reveals their hand and makes them easy lynches in subsequent days.


I was reading through the OP and host said that we would know which roles are in the game, but not the number of roles. I'm not sure how Hapahauli knows there are only 3 scum in the game.

Also, why is Promethelax so quiet? In the last game I played him, he racked up 10 posts in the first six hours of the game.


Promethelax might be trying to be quieter than last game, because those 10 posts in six hours were a big part of getting him lynched, were they not?

I should probably be doing the same, but posting is just so much DAMN FUN.


That's exactly my point. In XIX Prome was scum and led discussions actively from D1. In XXII Prome was town and posted a ton of fluff, and posted a bunch of weak cases. In XXIII, Prome is not posting. Weird

Or its been only three hours and its sunday night and he dosent work on monday so he is getting drunk. Or like he stated before the game starts he some times works on sundays.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 06 2012 02:12 GMT
#142
alright i just took two sleeping pills be back in the morning.

(havent been able to sleep since the last mafia game hence the sleeping pills)
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 06 2012 13:15 GMT
#166
For the people that are conerned about policy lynching

Its important to remember that a policy is not and end all be all statement if we dont want it to be. The fact is the more we force scum to post the more likely the things they post will start not making sense. This is because their goals are diffrent than ours. If we construct an enviroment where the scum feel it is neccesary to post they are more likely to screw up.

That said were as the game goes on we are not gonna lynch someone just because they are lurking we will have more information and we will take the whole case into consideration.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 06 2012 13:24 GMT
#167
The two people that have not posted yet are:
TolEranceNA
Sideni

If you are scum well fuck you but if your town its time to get active. Now i know it can be intimidating and you probally dont know what to say but you aint helping us be being silent. Just jump in the water feels great.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 06 2012 13:25 GMT
#168
ebwop

Im espcially curious of you sideni since you seemed kind of anxious to get the game started before but now your a no show.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 06 2012 13:44 GMT
#172
On August 06 2012 22:42 YourHarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 18:54 Promethelax wrote:

On August 06 2012 16:50 YourHarry wrote:
Shit LOL messed up the quotes. Oh well, more work for you guys.

I'm pretty sure this post is a joke but this does not show a town mentality
##FoS: that dude, Harry or whatever

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm high as balls. I don't know how much of this makes sense. If you need a translator ask tomorrow


This is scummy. Discuss.

Care to enlighten us on why? Also you didnt vote right.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 00:23 GMT
#235
On August 07 2012 07:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
While YourHarry plays the scummiest out of all of them, I just can't determine if he actually IS scum.




Thats the problem with yourharry. We keep him around and he will just confise the town with his nonsense. I dont see why would should invest him and carry him to the end of the game. Plus his play from this game has been less than desirable. He made no response to my calling him out early in the game ( A sign that he dosent read the thread) and his hard to follow logic i think will just be detriment going further.

On August 06 2012 23:10 YourHarry wrote:
He is sure that my post was a joke, but still suspects that I am scum at the same time. Scum Harry may intentionally mess up the quotes to make it more difficult for town, in which case I won't be joking. Town Harry would accidentally mess up the quotes and joke about not fixing the quotes.

So it seems to be a forced argument to show commitment and throw fake "reads" out there. This is scummy because scums have harder time coming up with genuine reads because they have to build a case on someone they know is town.


He basically just shows how it can be shown as wifom and then just throws a vote out there for no real reason. I want people going forward that will stand behind logic and look to strong cases.

## Vote Yourharry

I see we only have one lurker left. You see how sidini didnt get his head bitten off just post dude

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 01:02 GMT
#247
On August 07 2012 09:36 Lvdr wrote:
Synyster apologizes for fluff... with more fluff.

YH: the whole point of being scum is to confuse the town. Being a confusing townie only makes people suspicious: as you no doubt have noticed.

iamperfection: other than YH's incompetence, who do you think is actually mafia?

I want to make it clear that i still think yourharry is the best bet for flppping to scum.

also to the defense that this is his town "meta" we dont really have a yourharry scum meta to go off now do we.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 01:21 GMT
#254
On August 07 2012 10:11 YourHarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 09:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:44 YourHarry wrote:
Looking through Dandel Ion's filter, I don't see why he thinks I am scummy. @Dandel Discuss.

You start off with the unreadable post, instead of fixing it you make a joke. Yes that point is old, and we've been over it already.

Then you vote without giving a reason:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=9#169
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=9#170

Just to jump onto somebody else right after (note that none of either players you accuse have posted inbetween):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=9#174

Both players have also FoS'd you before that, so you respond by voting for them.

When pointed out by the powers that be that you are voting wrong, you go back to voting Promethelax instead
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=9#177

I'd like for you to make sense of that, for I cannot.
Your play is confusing to me, because as town, I don't see why you'd do that.


That's how I play. When I make a read, I post it. Sometimes I ask others to guess the reasons behind my vote. And sometimes, reasons behind my suspicions can seem trivial, especially in the beginning of the day. And as Hapha pointed out, I throw in different theories out there and see what people think of them and which one sticks. And they do a good job generating plenty of discussions early in the day. To be fair though, the second link referenced by "Just to jump onto somebody else right after" was actually me fixing my previous post regarding my suspicion on mkfuba. I guess that means you didn't read my original "messed" up post, because the contents were identical.

And it seems that iamperfection seems to be blaming me for us losing the XXI game. I admit that I did not have a very good track record in voting or even in my reads that game. Though, I did suspect that calgar that game was town, which basically got ignored, understandably. I got some coaching though, and I think I am improving. You may disagree, but let's see how I do this game. I have a confidence in myself this game. Just trust me

simple question

Why was calgar town?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 01:22 GMT
#256
ebwop i also dont blame you i blame myself.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 01:32 GMT
#262
On August 07 2012 10:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:21 iamperfection wrote:
On August 07 2012 10:11 YourHarry wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:44 YourHarry wrote:
Looking through Dandel Ion's filter, I don't see why he thinks I am scummy. @Dandel Discuss.

You start off with the unreadable post, instead of fixing it you make a joke. Yes that point is old, and we've been over it already.

Then you vote without giving a reason:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=9#169
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=9#170

Just to jump onto somebody else right after (note that none of either players you accuse have posted inbetween):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=9#174

Both players have also FoS'd you before that, so you respond by voting for them.

When pointed out by the powers that be that you are voting wrong, you go back to voting Promethelax instead
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=9#177

I'd like for you to make sense of that, for I cannot.
Your play is confusing to me, because as town, I don't see why you'd do that.


That's how I play. When I make a read, I post it. Sometimes I ask others to guess the reasons behind my vote. And sometimes, reasons behind my suspicions can seem trivial, especially in the beginning of the day. And as Hapha pointed out, I throw in different theories out there and see what people think of them and which one sticks. And they do a good job generating plenty of discussions early in the day. To be fair though, the second link referenced by "Just to jump onto somebody else right after" was actually me fixing my previous post regarding my suspicion on mkfuba. I guess that means you didn't read my original "messed" up post, because the contents were identical.

And it seems that iamperfection seems to be blaming me for us losing the XXI game. I admit that I did not have a very good track record in voting or even in my reads that game. Though, I did suspect that calgar that game was town, which basically got ignored, understandably. I got some coaching though, and I think I am improving. You may disagree, but let's see how I do this game. I have a confidence in myself this game. Just trust me

simple question

Why was calgar town?


Please keep discussion of XXI and other games out of this thread. Your question doesn't do anything for this game.

Also, I asked you some questions about your suspicions on YourHarry - could you please answer them? Thanks!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=13#249 (Here for reference)

What can i say i disagree with you. If he could answer that question with logic i would be more inclined to believe that there is some logic to his madness. If he cant i think my points stand. Do i have a note here that says he is scum no but i also dont have anything from anyone else that someone else i 100 times better so i think my logic stands on getting him out of the game.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 02:15 GMT
#266
On August 07 2012 10:33 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Sideni - I don't mind you voting early, but try to make sure you're availible near lynch-time (~20 hours from now) to change your vote if necessary.

I like your case against iamperfection, and I question the motives of his vote. He charges in when a bunch of people are FOS'ing YourHarry for very suspect reasoning (bad play as opposed to mafia motive).

FOS iamperfection

Hapa i know your afraid of revisting that game because of your scum meta but its definitly fine to revisit it.

Like i said before if he could explain how he came to that conclusion i would be more likely to believe there is a method to the madness.

Introducing cahos is a scum motive in my view. Thats what yourhrry does with his posting he introduces chaos. Do i have some other motives for lynching him yes. Do i not like how he plays yes. Do i not want yourharry by my side if god forbid i make it that far yes. You might not like that hapa but its the truth.

Also i did not charge in i called out yourharry in my very first post and he ignored it. yourharry is my case his posting in this thread just confirmed to me what i already knew. He is reckless and i want him out.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 02:23 GMT
#268
If you would be so kind vote count please when possible
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 02:43 GMT
#274
On August 07 2012 11:37 Lvdr wrote:
What do you mean there are only 3 mafia? Why can't everyone be mafia!

In all seriousness, my FOS point to only 2: synyster and iamperfection

For the record, YH and golbat are likely townie reads in my opinion.

edit by way of refresh
damint hapa sniped me

At least give us some reasoning buddy.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 02:55 GMT
#276
On August 07 2012 11:51 Lvdr wrote:
I will still observe them (just like everyone) but Synyster and iamperfection are the ones I am confident enough to FOS.

Golbat is average suspicion, and YH is inscrutable.

Right now (and I reserve the right to change my mind when more posts are made) I think iamperfection would give us more information. If he flips red, YH looks much less suspicious. Hard to believe he would bus YH that hard D1.

Synyster is still a good lynch because of the cases brought so far. Unfortunately, because he has said basically nothing, the connections would be less obvious. Voting trends are always useful though.

That makes no sense why would me flipping red have anything to do with yourharry. If you believe what has been said ive been using reasoning outside this game and the fact i dont think he is a good player to lynch him. Yourharry really hasent commented on the situation that much.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 03:40 GMT
#280
On August 07 2012 12:11 Hapahauli wrote:
@ iamperfection:

Ya know, this post isn't going to go away just because you tried to pick a fight with Lvdr:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=14#269

I still want answers for the following:
1) Are you accusing me of being mafia?
2) You called out YourHarry in your first post - why did you do this before he even posted/ was worthy of suspicion?
3) And while we're at it, what do you think of the cases against Synystyr?


1) no. My thinking was this hypothetically harry flips town then boom someone can attack you with meta from the last game thats why i think you could be worried about that.

2) i dont like the way he plays i think ive made that quite clear. Did i have an agenda to get him out of the game yes thats the truth. You dont have to like it. its not nice. its not even fair but i think the longer yourharry is in the game he does more damage than good. You dont have to agree with that but im just stating my thinking behind why i wanted him lynched.

3)Synyster has five posts. Its hard to say he is "scum" cause there isnt much to go on. I think he might be somewhat fearful in posting. His accusations seem to focus on productivity which is wierd because he is very unproductive himself.

If forced to guess i would say awful town.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 03:40 GMT
#281
bed time ill be back in the morning.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 17:31 GMT
#308
whoever came up with the idea for a restart is a smart man.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 17:31 GMT
#310
/in
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 17:47 GMT
#331
this next game is going to be awesome.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 07 2012 17:50 GMT
#336
On August 08 2012 02:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 02:46 Keirathi wrote:
On August 08 2012 02:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 08 2012 02:40 Blazinghand wrote:
YH actually played perfectly to his town meta, that wily fox.

kamikaze scum is best scum?

Its not that. Its just that he played EXACTLY the way he did in XXI, in which he got lynched for it. People that were in that game with him would see that he was playing the same way, aka still a "bad townie" rather than a scum.

It might night have worked forever, but I was certainly reading town on him this early as an outsider.


Perfection caught on right away. +2 coolness points to him for that.

so perfect dont even need evidence to catch scum
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August 07 2012 17:53 GMT
#339
On August 08 2012 02:50 Shady Sands wrote:
The whole scum strategy was to push Syn and Prom as lynches, and hopefully get Prom to wagon Syn hard, so we could set Prom up as the D2 mislynch.

Who were you thinking of killing?
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August 07 2012 18:05 GMT
#351
BANDWAGON GET ON THE TRAIN

## Vote ToleranceNA
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#357
On August 08 2012 03:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 03:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
If there is anything, could the coaches say if there were some obvious tells, or opportunities to apply pressure were missed by town?
I know it was barely 2 days, so I don't actually expect anything big to be in there, but just in case, I'd like to know


The only thing that really stands out to me as far as mafia tells is mkfuba's quick 180 after his Promethelax case. Even then, that would have been pretty hard to catch until town had some allignment info.

I think my plan of looking scummy enough to let live yet not get lynched would have worked. THen hopefully i would have made good checks.
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August 07 2012 20:13 GMT
#370
On August 08 2012 03:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'd like to know what the next things mean : Fluff, OMGUS, WIFOM, FOS !


Fluff - posting nothing worthwhile
OMGUS - stands for "Oh My God U Suck", and is mafia shorthand for voting someone because "they suck".
WIFOM - http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM
FOS - "Finger Of Suspicion", a symbolic "i am suspicions of you"

always answer wifom with the video its a great scene
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August 07 2012 20:29 GMT
#375
On August 08 2012 05:21 marvellosity wrote:
I just love the line about land wars in asia. so random and good

i think its before this video starts but it goes something like "ever heard of plato aristotle socrates"yes" morons". my favorite line
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#392
On August 08 2012 11:22 Golbat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 10:51 Blazinghand wrote:
The details are hidden in my previous post. You get +1 pets if you crack the gopher


Marv and iamperfection were playing strip trivial pursuit, and instead of take off his socks Marv told iamperfection Hapahauli's alignment.

prplhz found out about this (because he was creeping on them through a hole in the wall) and immediately cancelled the game.

GG Marv, next time just wear two pairs of socks.

This is cannon now.
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August 09 2012 00:39 GMT
#416
I think its important to remember that when i was pushing for the yourharry lynch it made more sense from my perspective.

1. i was the cop i wanted to appear to be somewhat scummy to stay alive as long as possible and gain more information.

2.i knew yourharry was not cop or and likely not any other power role since i knew i was a cop.

3. I think yourharry outside of the game has shown himself to be quite intelligent i encourage him if he is town to join us in a less chaotic tone.
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August 09 2012 00:40 GMT
#417
also policy yadadadada dont fucking lurk
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August 09 2012 01:25 GMT
#428
On August 09 2012 10:18 YourHarry wrote:
Guys, just because I act erratically in the beginning doesn't mean it's scummy. I just like getting reactions, OK? Is this allowed? I think after the last game, if I show an inkling of trolling, I would be policy lynched. Do I have a permission to be myself without having to worry about being lynched?

Thanks much <3

Why do you think its necessary? I think you can contribute a lot more with just some staight up logic no? It didn't do so well in xxi
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#435
On August 09 2012 11:06 Lvdr wrote:
Both hapa and yh are mafia or both are town?

If your going to say something like that at least explain.
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#459
On August 09 2012 14:13 YourHarry wrote:
@Hapha

I mixed up Calgar and Hapha, LOL. I meant to say, "Hapha, agreed?"

@mkfuba

Do you agree that Hapha is most-likely town? Your last post, though, is basically a fluff and it also makes me wonder how you possibly missed Hapha's change in stance against lynching me. Did you draw scum again?

the change with no reason given. you made one post and hapa changed his stance. I would like hapa to give some reasoning for his switch.
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#467
On August 09 2012 14:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 14:13 YourHarry wrote:
@Hapha

I mixed up Calgar and Hapha, LOL. I meant to say, "Hapha, agreed?"

@mkfuba

Do you agree that Hapha is most-likely town? Your last post, though, is basically a fluff and it also makes me wonder how you possibly missed Hapha's change in stance against lynching me. Did you draw scum again?

the change with no reason given. you made one post and hapa changed his stance. I would like hapa to give some reasoning for his switch.

i didnt see the spolier where he said he was joking never mind
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August 09 2012 18:07 GMT
#479
@Lvdr Please do not lurk even though their is a lot of suspicon on you right now. I think mkfuba makes a lot of good points most specifically the fact that you stated they are either both town or both scum.I think that you need to address and i will be intrested to see what you have to say. However Trust me you can get out of suspicion i know both from my own experience and seeing other players do it themselves there is always a way out.

but fos Lvdr

@hapa
On August 10 2012 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Regarding YourHarry's "Town Read" on Me:

I get the feeling no one read my spoiler quote T_T
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=21#415
"I'm joking of course, but given how much thought YourHarry put into his scum play for the last two days, I have high expectations of him if he's town. "


yes. I think we should only use spoilers for very large detailed cases. i think ( ) would do better for little asides like that.



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#481
On August 10 2012 03:29 Promethelax wrote:


I'm doing my best to catch up read and re-read. I already have one crazy connection theory which is too dumb to post so good news on that front.



Dont be a tease you are among friends.

Also what do you think about lvdr making the statement about them either being both town or both scum specifically what do you think of that specefic comment.

Also i will be quite honest with you. From my previous interactions with you i thought coming into this game that you would be very active your tone has come across to me as wierd. Even though we were scum together in our previous game i still expected you to be a leading force among the town regardless. You came across to me as a very thoughtful player so im just take aback somewhat by your whole approach. Do you have a reason for this?
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August 09 2012 18:58 GMT
#482
ebwop
i know that you are busy but still something has seem off i was expecting more from you
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#485
On August 10 2012 04:01 Lvdr wrote:
I was writing a breakdown of Yh's town claim... then I read that it got retracted. So much for that.

Given that the claim was retracted and YH (according to him) didn't know his alignment when he made the claim we cannot really draw any conclusions based on it. Any argument would be a WIFOM from YH's point of view, but even YH didn't know what his alignment was.


ok

but why did you state this
On August 09 2012 11:06 Lvdr wrote:
Both hapa and yh are mafia or both are town?

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#491
Do you think we should still policy lynch yourharry?
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#493
ebwop i was asking dandel ion
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#511
On August 10 2012 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
So let's kick things off:

FOS iamperfection

I feel like you've been going with the flow so far this game. You haven't started any original suspicions and you've been alternating between criticisms of players and piggybacking off other player's suspicions. This is completely different from your town play in the aborted game, where you tunneled YH from day 1.



I believe i gave reasons already why im not gonna tunnel yourharry ಠ_ಠ
On August 09 2012 09:39 iamperfection wrote:
I think its important to remember that when i was pushing for the yourharry lynch it made more sense from my perspective.

1. i was the cop i wanted to appear to be somewhat scummy to stay alive as long as possible and gain more information.

2.i knew yourharry was not cop or and likely not any other power role since i knew i was a cop.

3. I think yourharry outside of the game has shown himself to be quite intelligent i encourage him if he is town to join us in a less chaotic tone.


And apparently trying to get people to talk more is scum motivated??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I want people to partcipate and fully flesh out their reasoning when they do something. The more people talk in the long run i think we can find scum. I was honest with prom he has seem wierd to me on both days and i think he can partcipate more and i want him to. For your other crap i will continue to get people to talk more its not idle suspicion im throwing out its just trying to get people to talk more. I'll be hunting scum while you do whatever it is that you do.
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#514
On August 10 2012 07:02 Lvdr wrote:
@hapa - What do you think of my analysis of link 4 in your case?
I agree that iamperfection hasn't offered much of his own, but his play has really mirrored your own in terms of questioning many people.

@iamperfection - I encourage you to make a case of your own. While you have encouraged plenty of discussion, you haven't contributed a lot of your own analysis.

I aint going to fabricate a case just to defend myself.
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#518
On August 10 2012 07:09 Lvdr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 07:06 iamperfection wrote:
On August 10 2012 07:02 Lvdr wrote:
@hapa - What do you think of my analysis of link 4 in your case?
I agree that iamperfection hasn't offered much of his own, but his play has really mirrored your own in terms of questioning many people.

@iamperfection - I encourage you to make a case of your own. While you have encouraged plenty of discussion, you haven't contributed a lot of your own analysis.

I aint going to fabricate a case just to defend myself.


If you have no analysis to make doesn't this make you useless to the town? The idea behind lynching lurkers is that continued activity makes it very difficult for mafia to hide. In this case you are refusing to put yourself out there; essentially that would make you a lurker.

Very well you want some orginal content?

On August 10 2012 06:05 Lvdr wrote:
@hapa I don't think the case you're making against iamperfection is really scummy.

link 1: iam clearly does not trust yh, especially given what happened last game. understandable.

link 2: he is looking for more information. yes he doesn't offer an opinion, but it seems like a null read, not scummy.

link3: as you said he missed the joke spoiler. null read.

link 4: confirms that he missed the spoiler mentioned in link 3 and shows a proportional amount of suspicion on me. reads town to me because mafia have no interest in encouraging me to mount a good defense.

link 5: follows his established pattern of encouraging others to put out more information and reads.

This reads as a very flimsy case and even a bit of a reach.

Lvdr defends me because he knows im town in hopes that i will go after someone else. Lvdr then encourages me to make new case in hopes to get attention on someone else.

there you go

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#520
i am so glad to have gained 1 point on lvdr's town scoreboard. (this post contains sarcasm)
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#634
On August 11 2012 04:29 Hapahauli wrote:
To be honest, I'm shocked at how little attention that Axero is getting. He's laying low and has demonstrated some clear anti-town behavior. Some players have mentioned having suspicions of him, but no one has so much as FOS'd him.

Go with me a bit here:
If Axero was town, wouldn't he be a REALLY EASY MISLYNCH FOR MAFIA? Why has NO ONE voted for him? I'm inclined to think that his mafia buddies are covering for him!

Your so called case on axerro boils down to one line to me.

On August 10 2012 09:56 Axero wrote:

Haha, no I wasn't planning on lurking. I was actually going to go ahead with my plans without checking the forum at all, but someone coaching me suggested i still check.


You have to think of like this if he is mafia his plan was to refrence coaching as a means for his defense. I find this unlikely. I am more inclined to believe that this statement was truth and if he was away there was only one way he would recieve notification from a coach. He was pm'ed and i think this statement
On August 10 2012 10:03 Axero wrote:
My friend who introduced me to mafia told me


after he received another pm after being scolded for refrencing coaching. Thats what determines it for me.
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#640
On August 11 2012 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:

after he received another pm after being scolded for refrencing coaching. Thats what determines it for me.


There's nothing in the rules against referencing coaching. I confirmed this with one of the hosts this game.
[/QUOTE]
There isnt? In a previous game i refrenced coaching and got immediatly scolded so that is why i think the same thing happened to axxero.
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August 10 2012 19:49 GMT
#642
On August 11 2012 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:
There's nothing in the rules against referencing coaching. I confirmed this with one of the hosts this game.

ebwop
There isnt? In a previous game i refrenced coaching and got immediatly scolded so that is why i think the same thing happened to axxero.
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August 10 2012 20:35 GMT
#669
On August 11 2012 05:33 Axero wrote:
EBWOP:

@ Hapa

If I were scum, how would it benefit me to fos you? Surely there's easier people to go after that wouldn't bring so much attention to myself.

Get that wifom shit out of here. I know almost everthing can be wifom but come on.
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August 10 2012 20:39 GMT
#671
On August 11 2012 05:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 05:35 iamperfection wrote:
On August 11 2012 05:33 Axero wrote:
EBWOP:

@ Hapa

If I were scum, how would it benefit me to fos you? Surely there's easier people to go after that wouldn't bring so much attention to myself.

Get that wifom shit out of here. I know almost everthing can be wifom but come on.


Funny thing is, ge isn't "going after" me. He's just casting idle "gut-feeling" suspicion on me.

????
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#672
oh he lol
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August 10 2012 20:43 GMT
#677
alright im gonna be working on the votecount. if someone could check me if i make a mistake please.
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August 10 2012 20:54 GMT
#686
Vote count

Mkfuba07
1. yourharry Yourharry

LVDR
4.mkfuba07,iamperfection, Axero, Sideni

Sideni
4.Lvdr , dandel ion, promthelax, good karma

Dandel Ion
0. Sideni

Axero
0.Hapa refresh ftw
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August 10 2012 20:54 GMT
#687
someone check me plz i think im right
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August 10 2012 20:55 GMT
#689
oh there we go i think were right dandel ion
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August 10 2012 20:56 GMT
#690
escept hapa just unvoted
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August 10 2012 20:56 GMT
#692
ebowp except
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August 10 2012 20:57 GMT
#694
On August 11 2012 05:49 Dandel Ion wrote:


with 12 people, it should take 7 to lynch, but it says 6 in the day1 post? So we could in theory lynch 2?

I think the person that gets to 6 first would be lynched
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August 10 2012 21:10 GMT
#709
##unvote
## Vote Sideni
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August 10 2012 21:14 GMT
#716
On August 11 2012 06:04 Sideni wrote:
Reading through Mkfuba's filter. Please, someone, help me build a case for him ...
I really don't know who to vote for anymore =/


help me build a case for him. Thats all the reason i need.
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August 10 2012 21:19 GMT
#725
On August 11 2012 06:16 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 06:14 iamperfection wrote:
On August 11 2012 06:04 Sideni wrote:
Reading through Mkfuba's filter. Please, someone, help me build a case for him ...
I really don't know who to vote for anymore =/


help me build a case for him. Thats all the reason i need.


Why isn't your case on lvdr valid anymore? I can't figure out how to word this right but essentially is that quote alone enough to make him more suspicious for you?

What case on LVDR my tounge and cheek comments against him werent really a "case" plus he seems to be trying to promote discussion in both his defense while still hunting so Yes that quote alone is enough for me.
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August 10 2012 22:01 GMT
#747
On August 11 2012 05:53 Dandel Ion wrote:
Alright I thought about it.
I think this is how I want to proceed:

We lynch lvdr.

He flips town, we lynch Sideni day 2 and probably mkfuba on day 3
He flips scum, you guys probably lynch me day 2

I'm pretty sure we get at least 1 scum with that.

I won't lie, I'd like to have Sideni out of the game as fast as I can, but we all make our sacrifices....


It was silly for dandel ion to post that. We have no idea what is going to happen at night or what new information may come to light.
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August 10 2012 22:19 GMT
#758
Time check and vote count plz
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August 10 2012 22:23 GMT
#763
On August 11 2012 07:22 Hapahauli wrote:
We have a couple of people here, me, Dandel Ion, lvdr, and Sideni confrimed. ShadySands and Kronen have posted recently. Between us 6, we can swing a lynch in a better direction.

Possible Lynch Tarets

GoodKarma - hasn't stuck his neck out, has played semi-lurky, and has tunneled suspicion on Axero and Sideni. It's his lack of involvement in this game that I find strange. Townies are naturally suspicious of several people and constantly switch suspicions (unless emotional). GoodKarma has played suspiciously "clean," and I think he could be mafia tunneling suspicion on two easy targets.

Axero - his "ragequit" gives me a slight townie read, but I find his other behavior suspicious. I've made my views clear.

Promethelax - Comes in, points a lot of fingers, picks a fight with Dandel Ion, then leaves. Call it a gut feeling, but I find his behavior strange.

i dont count as being here?
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August 10 2012 22:31 GMT
#772
On August 11 2012 07:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh sup iamperfection - what do you think of the recent preceedings? We think Sideni's reactions make him a horribad townie. I also have a bad-townie read on Lvdr. Any of those players seem suspicious? I think we're heading in the waaaaay wrong direction as it stands with votes piled on Sideni.

Ive already stated why i dont like axxero as a lynch i think he was being honest in his first posts. I think goodkarma of the lurkers looks like scum to me. He has tendancy to make little things seem to be more important than they really are. Such as sedini grap of the english language as well as making a big deal about jokes
On August 11 2012 05:35 goodkarma wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 01:46 Axero wrote:
EBWOP:

Spooning required, clothes optional.


This is spam. It adds no content to the thread and drowns out valid arguments which are critical for us to see so close to the voting deadline.

Axero is definitely looking scummier than he did before. But I'm not ready to rule out his actions as being those of a bad townie yet.


Also he seems to be setting himself to sofetning the blow he ends up switching his vote on to axxero.
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August 10 2012 22:37 GMT
#781
i have to go do we have enough votes to do this? i dont want a no lynch.
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August 10 2012 22:38 GMT
#783
## Unvote
## vote goodkarma
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August 10 2012 22:38 GMT
#784
i have like 10 mins and i still have my phone
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August 10 2012 22:39 GMT
#786
what do we got 4?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 10 2012 22:45 GMT
#796
alright im off to dinner onto phone can make emergency vote if required
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2012 00:59 GMT
#837
lol

hit my music

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2012 02:49 GMT
#848
you forgot to list yourself confirmed townie
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2012 02:52 GMT
#851
On August 11 2012 11:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ iamperfection - I kinda assumed everyone thought so at this point lol

yourharry is in this game.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2012 15:20 GMT
#890
Since some people have askes for some explanation i will just state the truth.

On August 11 2012 07:31 iamperfection wrote:
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On August 11 2012 07:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh sup iamperfection - what do you think of the recent preceedings? We think Sideni's reactions make him a horribad townie. I also have a bad-townie read on Lvdr. Any of those players seem suspicious? I think we're heading in the waaaaay wrong direction as it stands with votes piled on Sideni.

Ive already stated why i dont like axxero as a lynch i think he was being honest in his first posts. I think goodkarma of the lurkers looks like scum to me. He has tendancy to make little things seem to be more important than they really are. Such as sedini grap of the english language as well as making a big deal about jokes
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On August 11 2012 05:35 goodkarma wrote:

On August 11 2012 01:46 Axero wrote:
EBWOP:

Spooning required, clothes optional.


This is spam. It adds no content to the thread and drowns out valid arguments which are critical for us to see so close to the voting deadline.

Axero is definitely looking scummier than he did before. But I'm not ready to rule out his actions as being those of a bad townie yet.


Also he seems to be setting himself to sofetning the blow he ends up switching his vote on to axxero.


When i made this post i thought we were going to have a bit of discusion on who of the lurkers that were presented to us. I made this mini case because i thought goodkarma was the best and i have previously stated why i didn't think axxero was mafia. The suspicion piled up on goodkarma on other just before that and i was reading the filters of goodkarma and prom. If you look at the time stamps people started stating their gut feelings just before i posted my mini observations. I think this gives a little more credit to me as town.

The voting happened very quickly after that and my concern for a no lynch was legitmate because i didnt know how many people were here so that is why i didnt vote right away. That is also why i followed up with the comment about me making an emergency vote if neccesary to avoid a no lynch.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 12 2012 00:22 GMT
#957
## vote promethelax

prom has not given any good reason not to.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 12 2012 00:24 GMT
#963
On August 12 2012 09:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Would anyone be up for voting for a 24-hour day? I can try to arrange this with a mod, since we all seem to be on the "lynch Promethelax" train.

i support this lets get this to the intresting part.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 12 2012 22:38 GMT
#1009
On August 13 2012 07:35 prplhz wrote:
Shady Sands is replacing out.

oh god.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 12 2012 22:41 GMT
#1011
My last two games dont give me any help in the decesion here.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 12 2012 22:42 GMT
#1012
ebwop i have seen both town and scum quit.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 12 2012 22:53 GMT
#1014
On August 13 2012 07:35 prplhz wrote:
Shady Sands is replacing out.

Does that imply you have someone ready to replace him or is a modkill possible?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 13 2012 15:11 GMT
#1062
im kind of dissapointed that prom did not use this opportunity to at least mock us some more before he got lynched.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 14 2012 00:35 GMT
#1093
well that was anti climatic
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 14 2012 00:37 GMT
#1097
i vote sideni mvp for not giving up on day 1. suck it hapa
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 14 2012 01:32 GMT
#1132
On August 14 2012 10:21 Blazinghand wrote:
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On August 14 2012 10:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:17 YourHarry wrote:
Hapa, you were not suspicious of Sideni?

He pretty much soft-claimed cop. If I were you, I may have counter-claimed and went after Sideni...


But there was like, NO way Sideni was scum.

He's not the best at logic and shit, so we can only speculate until he explains this.

On August 14 2012 10:18 Blazinghand wrote:
oh no did I ignore you! I'm so sorry ;_;

top 3 coaching right here


NO WAIT I DID HELP HIM, I FOUND THE SENT PM:

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Baller Coach:
Original Message From YourHarry:
Hi Blazinghand,

I would like to be coached to improve my scum hunting ability. Please let me know what I am doing wrong and what I should do more of. Thanks.

I am a vanilla townie.


That's a bit too general. I can offer some vague advice though:

Step 1 is to vote your top scumread, and explain why to the thread. Now that you’re voting, what to do to further your contribution to the town, I wonder? It’s really simple: you need to strengthen your read. You almost certainly aren’t immediately convinced someone is 100% scum. No, rather, you’re far more likely to have a weak—at best—read.

How do you further that read?

You think someone is scum. (Alternatively, you have formed an opinion that someone is town, and you believe it is important enough to mention in-thread.) I hate to assign hard percentages to the concept, but because I figure you probably want some, let’s just say You’re more than 33% sure they’re scum, but not more than 80%.

You want to draw attention to them.


You vote them, (or support them if you think they’re town) and at this stage, you most likely explain why you have that opinion. Note that you don’t have to explain the opinion in order to express it. Even a one-liner, even a question…they’re your statements on a subject, even if they’re not fully visible. If you ask someone “Why did you do X?”, it’s not that hard to form the conclusion that you find X to be a questionable activity, something worthy of scrutiny, and almost always, at least slightly suspicious—yet you might not ever say you find X to be suspicious.


Essentially, anything you decide to post is meant to draw attention to that player, and express your opinion on them, be it that they’re town, or that they’re scum. The latter is more likely than the former. (You tend not to need to want to draw attention to a player you think is town, though there are situations where you will.)

They will be forced to react, generating new information.

With that additional information, your read will either be strengthened, or weakened. And from there, you will be capable of forming a more solid opinion on a matter, which is a good thing.


Got to be careful when you ask vague questions it sometimes leads to trouble...........
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 14 2012 02:02 GMT
#1136
thats quite the claim with little proof
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 14 2012 02:07 GMT
#1138
gk had you pegged as blue from your first post props to him.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 14 2012 14:06 GMT
#1157
On August 14 2012 23:02 Sideni wrote:
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On August 14 2012 16:35 Keirathi wrote:
On August 14 2012 15:57 Sideni wrote:
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People thought I was the cop ! xD The only thing I had in mind was to let one of my suspicions call a power role and just look at them not die during the night. After that, they would obviously be mafia ...

I really don't understand what you mean by that.

Lets say, for instance, that Hapa told you he was cop. The mafia don't know that he's the cop, so they aren't necessarily going to kill him.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?


Well, that's why I didn't ask Hapa what role he was !
I asked non-confirmed townies.
If mafia players only have 1 lead for a power role, they would try to kill it at night !
If this player doesn't die, it would mean that he's mafia :D

but then what if mafia dont kill them just for that reason to set up a miss lynch.
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