EPTAs this is day 1, I propose everyone is suspicious until they post at least once.
Newbie Mini Mafia XXIII - Page 7
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
As this is day 1, I propose everyone is suspicious until they post at least once. | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
Discuss. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On August 06 2012 09:45 Lvdr wrote: Also it seems to me that if golbat was a failmafia in his last game, he probably got set as town in this one. Discuss. I know that's not 100% serious, but roles are random, right? No "I want to be DT"s or anything like that. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On August 06 2012 09:11 Golbat wrote: Well, that's the point of the lynch. If a bandwagon forms on a player who afterwards flips green, the bandwagon formers, (as well as people who hopped on late with no reason) are under huge scrutiny and suspicion. It's one of the best ways to catch mafia early imo. At the very least, we get good discussion and that can set us up for future lynches as well. Yep. Encouraging lots of activity is the best way to play the game--what most people don't realize is that a town that is busy accusing each other and a town that is totally quiet both have about equal chances of drawing mislynches early in the game, but a town that is busy accusing each other makes it much harder for scum to hide. And once scum start accusing, they either have to bus or push mislynches, either of which is hard to pull off, and gives scum a greater chance of making a mistake. | ||
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Golbat
United States499 Posts
On August 06 2012 09:45 Lvdr wrote: Also it seems to me that if golbat was a failmafia in his last game, he probably got set as town in this one. Discuss. What do you mean by "failmafia"? I was town in my last game, hence, "overeager townie". Reading comprehension is important, yo. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 06 2012 09:35 Synystyr wrote: LOL I believe that not lynching players simply because they are active is a good way to go about things. You could be scum using that as an excuse to cover up. While I do see the benefit in lynching a lurker versus an active player, I do not believe this should be the sole reasoning on how we lynch someone. Well of course it won't be the only reason we lynch someone. Doing something like lynching the lowest postcount D1 would be absurd. However, I hope you do agree that we should be putting our suspicion (atleast on D1) on less active players. On August 06 2012 09:45 Lvdr wrote: Also it seems to me that if golbat was a failmafia in his last game, he probably got set as town in this one. Discuss. Erm dude, Golbat wasn't mafia in his last game. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On August 06 2012 09:55 Golbat wrote: What do you mean by "failmafia"? I was town in my last game, hence, "overeager townie". Reading comprehension is important, yo. On August 06 2012 09:59 Hapahauli wrote: Erm dude, Golbat wasn't mafia in his last game. Scumslip or most obvious scumslip? Discuss. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On August 06 2012 09:13 Hapahauli wrote: @ Golbat: Welcome! @ Dandel Ion: I disagree to a certain extent - not all scum will suddenly become active and incriminate themselves to bandwagon a player. Many scum in newbie games are comortable staying out of the thread and never being active. I do not believe that the "sudden activity read" it is an excuse to not be concerned with "scum lurkers" early in the game, and we should smoke-'em out as early as possible. I think you over-estimate the power of mafia. Mafia only have 3 votes as opposed to town's 9 votes. Furthermore, if Mafia violently forces a bandwagon, it reveals their hand and makes them easy lynches in subsequent days. I was reading through the OP and host said that we would know which roles are in the game, but not the number of roles. I'm not sure how Hapahauli knows there are only 3 scum in the game. Also, why is Promethelax so quiet? In the last game I played him, he racked up 10 posts in the first six hours of the game. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874¤tpage=6#108 Day 1 post dude. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On August 06 2012 10:12 Shady Sands wrote: I was reading through the OP and host said that we would know which roles are in the game, but not the number of roles. I'm not sure how Hapahauli knows there are only 3 scum in the game. Also, why is Promethelax so quiet? In the last game I played him, he racked up 10 posts in the first six hours of the game. EBWOP: Just read that there are 3 scum players left and 9 town players left. Sorry about that, my mistake. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 06 2012 10:07 Dandel Ion wrote: Scumslip or most obvious scumslip? Discuss. Scumslip or not, I want to hear an answer for how Lvdr managed to post false-information that he could have verified in a 10-second search of Golbat's posting history... FOS Lvdr | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
Just got back from dinner, so I'm going to go through the posts so far and get back to you with my thoughts. | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
I'm really just trying to get some opinions going. | ||
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Golbat
United States499 Posts
On August 06 2012 10:12 Shady Sands wrote: I was reading through the OP and host said that we would know which roles are in the game, but not the number of roles. I'm not sure how Hapahauli knows there are only 3 scum in the game. Also, why is Promethelax so quiet? In the last game I played him, he racked up 10 posts in the first six hours of the game. Promethelax might be trying to be quieter than last game, because those 10 posts in six hours were a big part of getting him lynched, were they not? I should probably be doing the same, but posting is just so much DAMN FUN. | ||
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Golbat
United States499 Posts
On August 06 2012 10:24 Lvdr wrote: I guess I misunderstood. I thought golbat was a mafia that got lynched d1. I'm really just trying to get some opinions going. Then share a real opinion. In all honesty, it was probably just a misunderstanding due to low level reading comprehension, but shape up man. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On August 06 2012 09:48 Dandel Ion wrote: I know that's not 100% serious, but roles are random, right? No "I want to be DT"s or anything like that. I don't take requests. | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
Could be mafia sowing confusion. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9649 Posts
I have come around in my thinking from previous games and agree that lynching lurkers is a good policy to have. When the town is inactive or loses its active players it is very easy for the scum to start leading the town. In my first game my scum buddies were able to dominate the conversation. In my last game that son of a bitch hapa cost me my perfection and i have been in mourning ever since. Its redemption time On August 06 2012 10:12 Shady Sands wrote: Also, why is Promethelax so quiet? In the last game I played him, he racked up 10 posts in the first six hours of the game. Alright lets not go accusing people of lurking in the first 2 or so hours into the game. We have 48 hours and while i want to see activity its important to remember this is forum mafia there will be times people can be active and not active. On August 06 2012 10:24 Lvdr wrote: I guess I misunderstood. I thought golbat was a mafia that got lynched d1. I'm really just trying to get some opinions going. You can easily go back and see the results of that game. takes 2 seconds and now people are going to start questioning your effort http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353315 Speaking of previous games i would like to know how yourharry is going to aproach this game. If we are going to get your logic that makes no sense where your "sure" sombody is town or mafia i say we lynch you know before your logic festers and contaminates the town. One of the reason i lynched calgar in my previous game is because he actually used your logic in his own defense. Unforgivable in my view. Your thoughts? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On August 06 2012 10:54 iamperfection wrote: Speaking of previous games i would like to know how yourharry is going to aproach this game. If we are going to get your logic that makes no sense where your "sure" sombody is town or mafia i say we lynch you know before your logic festers and contaminates the town. One of the reason i lynched calgar in my previous game is because he actually used your logic in his own defense. Unforgivable in my view. Your thoughts? Now, now, let's wait until he actually posts... | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On August 06 2012 10:54 iamperfection wrote: Sup everybody I have come around in my thinking from previous games and agree that lynching lurkers is a good policy to have. When the town is inactive or loses its active players it is very easy for the scum to start leading the town. In my first game my scum buddies were able to dominate the conversation. In my last game that son of a bitch hapa cost me my perfection and i have been in mourning ever since. Its redemption time Alright lets not go accusing people of lurking in the first 2 or so hours into the game. We have 48 hours and while i want to see activity its important to remember this is forum mafia there will be times people can be active and not active. You can easily go back and see the results of that game. takes 2 seconds and now people are going to start questioning your effort http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353315 Speaking of previous games i would like to know how yourharry is going to aproach this game. If we are going to get your logic that makes no sense where your "sure" sombody is town or mafia i say we lynch you know before your logic festers and contaminates the town. One of the reason i lynched calgar in my previous game is because he actually used your logic in his own defense. Unforgivable in my view. Your thoughts? I'm not accusing Prome of lurking, I'm just saying that his behavior this game doesn't match up with his behavior last game (when he flipped green) and his behavior in XIX (when he was scum). On August 06 2012 10:28 Golbat wrote: Promethelax might be trying to be quieter than last game, because those 10 posts in six hours were a big part of getting him lynched, were they not? I should probably be doing the same, but posting is just so much DAMN FUN. That's exactly my point. In XIX Prome was scum and led discussions actively from D1. In XXII Prome was town and posted a ton of fluff, and posted a bunch of weak cases. In XXIII, Prome is not posting. Weird | ||
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