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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 06 2012 16:54 GMT
#1161
EBWOP. Also don;t misread me arguing with Ange/aRyuujin as trying to convince them. They will not be convinced it seems. It was a good method for getting as much info as possible into the open so people could make their own minds up. I wish people will read my filter. Maybe it is too long.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 06 2012 16:54 GMT
#1162
On August 07 2012 01:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 01:40 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:20 JingleHell wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:18 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:15 JingleHell wrote:
Misdirection. In context, it suggests that one of us would flip red. Of course, the one who will is you. It's also just one more shred of evidence, along with everything else that's piled up.

It does nothing of the sort, you are creating something that isn't there. you are obviously desperate to avoid a lynch. so I can forgive you for manufacturing scumslips from thin air. and then stubbornly calling the actual meaning misdirection.


I'm desperate? When I finally cave and stop being resigned to watching town self destruct and defend myself after literally everyone asks me to?

You're the one who's becoming increasingly frantic.


I know better than to try and alter your convictions when you have something stuck in your head. So i will leave it at I agree to disagree.


Why are you doing this for JingleHell, but spent so much time arguing against aRyuujin and Ange?

If you're convinced that aRyuu and Ange are scum, then shouldn't you be abandoning/ignoring them, and trying to persuade JingleHell?


Because I have read this game, His previous game. and the tech support forum. I tried to reason with him. But he won't have it. although it is somewhat suspicious. I am more suspicious of the guys getting me lynched. Right?


Uhm, bringing up the Tech Board is probably the worst thing you could do. Seeing as things there tend to be objective right/wrong. Ignoring, of course, the parts where that's not a game, and it's clearly just a desperate ad hom attempt to make me look stubborn.

Funny thing, if I'm so damn stubborn, why do my suspicions shift so readily with new information?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 06 2012 16:59 GMT
#1163
On August 07 2012 01:54 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 01:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:40 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:20 JingleHell wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:18 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:15 JingleHell wrote:
Misdirection. In context, it suggests that one of us would flip red. Of course, the one who will is you. It's also just one more shred of evidence, along with everything else that's piled up.

It does nothing of the sort, you are creating something that isn't there. you are obviously desperate to avoid a lynch. so I can forgive you for manufacturing scumslips from thin air. and then stubbornly calling the actual meaning misdirection.


I'm desperate? When I finally cave and stop being resigned to watching town self destruct and defend myself after literally everyone asks me to?

You're the one who's becoming increasingly frantic.


I know better than to try and alter your convictions when you have something stuck in your head. So i will leave it at I agree to disagree.


Why are you doing this for JingleHell, but spent so much time arguing against aRyuujin and Ange?

If you're convinced that aRyuu and Ange are scum, then shouldn't you be abandoning/ignoring them, and trying to persuade JingleHell?


Because I have read this game, His previous game. and the tech support forum. I tried to reason with him. But he won't have it. although it is somewhat suspicious. I am more suspicious of the guys getting me lynched. Right?


Uhm, bringing up the Tech Board is probably the worst thing you could do. Seeing as things there tend to be objective right/wrong. Ignoring, of course, the parts where that's not a game, and it's clearly just a desperate ad hom attempt to make me look stubborn.

Funny thing, if I'm so damn stubborn, why do my suspicions shift so readily with new information?


your an INTP? honestly jingle i don;t know you at all. these are just based off my perceptions of you. others have had the same perceptions. I am really not in a position to explain your behaviour better than you are. so I don;t know why you would ask me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 06 2012 17:02 GMT
#1164
You're the one accusing me of being stubborn, when it's not corroborated. Yes, in fact, I expect you to be able to justify it without an ad hominem attack based off of something I do elsewhere in the community that's utterly impossible to compare.

DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 06 2012 17:05 GMT
#1165
On August 07 2012 02:02 JingleHell wrote:
You're the one accusing me of being stubborn, when it's not corroborated. Yes, in fact, I expect you to be able to justify it without an ad hominem attack based off of something I do elsewhere in the community that's utterly impossible to compare.



I was hardly attacking you. I just cannot be bothered reasoning with you anymore than I already have. I have mentioned I want to go to sleep right. And based off everything I have read of you. you are incredibly difficult to argue with. it is 3.00am and I am done. Everything is in my filter. See you in postgame!
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 06 2012 17:07 GMT
#1166
EBWOP: closing the thread. If you need an answer to a question. it is 90% in my filter. but don;t ask me directly i will not respond. good luck town.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
August 06 2012 18:17 GMT
#1167
Sigh... This is what I get for going to bed

There's been so much activity last night as to make my head explode...


I honestly still don't see this damning evidence.

First, let's address this single point:
That my stance is if DarthPunk is scum, it was an uncoordinated bus, with Zork's post being really bad timing. And people have said they don't expect a bus, so why is this case against Darthpunk gaining such momentum? I still seriously can't follow what's going on. I've seen the points I've addressed already and one more:

That JingleHell is considered town by Darthpunk. This is very suspicious, I agree. Apparently enough so for Shady to vote for Darthpunk. But Jinglehell has been so suspicious I still feel he is a better lynch. To summarize Darthpunk's reasoning: whoever Ange attacks is town because Ange is scum. Very sketchy reasoning, but I still feel that JingleHell is a stronger read. And that this is the only point that seems to have any validity for lynching Darthpunk.

I'm especially for JingleHell over Darthpunk since I'm still not convinced scum bused Zork, and that's what had to have happened if Darthpunk is scum.

And regarding Darthpunk's OMGUS pointing at Ange and aRyuujin:

Scum doesn't need to avoid looking suspicious. Scum needs to stay alive as long as possible. People seem to just kind of handwave this fact: one more mislynch and it's MYLO for town every turn the rest of the game+ Show Spoiler +
(I said LYLO before, but that's not strictly true. I overlooked that a no lynch would not lead to a loss. Hence MYLO is the correct term here.)
. Honestly, if aRyuujin and Ange are scum, lynching one more innocent wouldn't be a bad play. I honestly don't see this town getting two correct lynches in a row the way it's coordinated right now...

Finally regarding Darthpunk's stance on "sheeping Shady's vote." Correct me if I'm wrong, but to secure a majority as town something like this needs to happen. I said I would follow a similar stance if that's what it took to secure a majority... I don't feel it limits discussion, as everyone can put forward their cases and indicate their favorite candidates with votes. It's just that by doing this, a majority can be secured around a confirmed town if things go wrong and town is too split to secure a lynch.

I said I would switch to Darthpunk, but the majority to lynch him has already been secured. Because the votes needed for the lynch have been secured, I will keep my vote symbolically with Jingle for the time being.


So there is my line of reasoning for not voting Darthpunk. Largely symbolic at this point, but at least, hopefully, you now know where I'm coming from.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
August 06 2012 19:44 GMT
#1168
Back home. Catching up.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 06 2012 20:09 GMT
#1169
On August 07 2012 04:44 Ange777 wrote:
Back home. Catching up.


Ange, just for your benefit, here are the big plays that have happened:

I shifted my vote to DP, because I don't see how he could know Jingle is town without knowing everyone's alignments through being mafia.
Alan reaffirmed his vote in Jingle but thinks DP is scum too. His only post in the past 24 hours.
GK thinks Jingle is bigger scum than DP so is voting Jingle
DP and Jingle have been having an argument in the thread
Jingle sounds less angry/more contributory
Что?
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
August 06 2012 20:25 GMT
#1170
I only saw your summary at the very end but still thanks :D
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
August 06 2012 20:28 GMT
#1171
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 06 2012 20:29 GMT
#1172
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
August 06 2012 20:30 GMT
#1173
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
August 06 2012 20:31 GMT
#1174
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
August 06 2012 20:32 GMT
#1175
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
August 06 2012 20:39 GMT
#1176
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2012 20:39 GMT
#1177
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
August 06 2012 20:49 GMT
#1178
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
August 06 2012 21:01 GMT
#1179
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
August 06 2012 21:03 GMT
#1180
FINAL VOTE COUNT FOR DAY 4:

DarthPunk ( 5 ): Ange777, aRyuujin, JingleHell, Obvious.660, Shady Sands,
JingleHell ( 3 ): alan133, DarthPunk, goodkarma,

DarthPunk was lynched by the town!
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
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