On August 10 2012 07:10 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:On August 10 2012 06:59 JingleHell wrote:
Especially since I showed up and everyone was happy to see me after XXI. Where I played EXACTLY that way. When I did it here, it was scummy. And everything subsequent that I did was scummy. Including making cases against both of the remaining scum after Zork. That's seriously scummy behavior. As is breathing, using punctuation, speaking English, and tickling Elmo. Yeah, from what I hear, if people are against you, verbally lambasting them and insulting them repeatedly is the easiest way to convince them to join your side. When I have a disagreement with my father, for example, I just start calling him a moron, and it solves the problem. To be fair, I tried reasoning with them first. But when I realized that they were going to interpret anything and everything I said as scummy, I gave up. I thought I did a fair job keeping my temper in check.
as a fellow player with this same problem, sometimes if you get to that point it's just worth taking a break from the game. I know I'm going to be taking a break from playing for a while because from my experience some recent games have been so frustrating there's no way I can keep a level head for the short term future.
Ultimately even if you are justified in raging you should strive not to do it because it ruins the game for other players.
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GG town,
I spent 3 hours writing the summary of the game from my PoV, and the my browser crashed ._.
I couldn't spend another 3 hours on this, so I am going to address lightly what I said.
My Strategy
- Play as pro-town as possible
- Provide fair analysis
- Say only things that I can back them up with a townie motivation
Day 1
I defended Golbat hoping to gain some towncred, and even if they see through this, I had good reasons to defend him: Why would scum Golbat reconsider his vote when so many others has voted for the same person?
Night 1
Picked Kei for kill, picked non to block. No block reasons being there is no clear target to block, and I don't want town to know a role blocker exist. Kill Kei: reasons being there is some "blue" signs, and safe kill (so we thought): not particularly active, not particularly townie in our eyes.
Suggested look at the Golbat vote. Little information to get from there. Mordanis correct call that one or even two scums aren't behind the lynch.
Suggested be careful what to post at night. Mistake by me. Too townie for my own good, could have make use of bad reads.
Posted small case on Kei. Reasons being: show some active "scum hunting" while freeing myself up to push for other people based on the situation in day 2. "My main fos in night 1 died  "
Reread filter, thinks Zork scummy, asked if disinterested in playing and if we can bus, got strongly retaliated.
@Zork
Did not meant to be hash, sincerely thought you were disinterested or not free. Thought can lift your burden and we can gain some advantage from it, not a "OMGUS uninstall game plz".
Day 2
Kei saved. Knew it was Medic save. No one RB-ed. Suggest hunt for medic in Scum QT. Made use of my "small case" on Kei to try to draw medic out. No one else paid attention to Kei so was not very successful.
Identified Mordanis and Promethelax as potential medics. Former due to the only one who paid attention to Kei day 1, later because of his buddying up Kei. DP initiated the PrometheWagon, succeed.
Would like to see the reason for buddying up Kei:
I have an explanation for the buddying thing that you are unhappy with that I will reveal before the end of the night cycle. It has a good motivation and I promise town that I will explain it before the end of n2.
Could be strong townie reads, interested to see why.
Night 2
Picked Kei block Mordanis:
Kill because 4 reasons:
- blue sign
- safe kill (no two saves on same person in a row)
- Kill cleared town in case Medic claimed
- Thought could lead a lynch on Obvious (but we failed to follow through)
Block was not a decision by me. Told DP to make the decision for me, probably to block "potential medic".
Positioned into pushing Shady Sands.
Jingle joins replacing MrMedic. Really followed NMM XXI, sincerely admired play, good logical-analytical skills. Awesome pressuring skills. Knew about the straw man bussing potential. Thought could make use of, but didn't plan to keep you alive for long.
Day 3
Kei dies, clears Shady Sands, not a big fan of the outcome. Jump on Mordanis bandwagon, interrupted by Ange's Zorkwagon. Suggested to bus at 4 vs 4 votes. Reasons being: Thinks that Zork's case overwhelms Mordanis' case. Momentum is on Zork's lynch, but if bus here, on the surface, Alan secured a Zork lynch, could have bussed with more arguments against Zork I collected on day 1. Massive town credit.
However, plan not well received. Zork was not here. DP thinks Zork can be saved. Scrapped my plan, tried to save zork. Accidentally brought my frustration into the post. Thought it was a bit careless, but could have make excuses: "Was not only mad at Zork, but also all the lurkers, and people don't look at my case. Also mad at Jingle for silly tunnelling"
Distracted Jingle, Jingle thought no one understands the word motivation. Planned to further provoke Jingle. Wanted to counter Jingle's post with "Not everything can be explained by a motivation. I accidentally ran over an elephant. I feel sorry for elephant, but I don't have the "motivation" to kill said elephant". Scrapped it last second because Jingle voted for Mordanis. Bad play from me. Should have pressured Jingle. Discredit Jingle, easier lynch. Had potential to swing the Zork lynch to Jingle lynch
Asked Zorkmid to claim medic. Sincere request to Zork so he can clear himself, or at least bring down medic with him, not the silly "obvious fake claim" to switch vote "less scummy-ly" that people thinks. Half-assed attempt by Zork, everyone knows how it went.
Night 3
DP lost motivation. So is Alan. Communication broke down.
Kill Mordanis role blocked Jingle
- Kill because Mordanis looks like medic.
- Kill because Mordanis knew about role blocker
Block for no particular reason. Thought Jingle could be medic, but he will certainly say something about it.
Day 4
Mordanis flips VT.
Jingle brought attention by talking about role blocker. Townie distrust him. Everyone voted for him. Thought case set. Positioned myself to get aRyu lynched next day, but will forced to vote for DP if people are after him. aRyu read my plan perfectly, as with any scum plan I had I can rub it off with townie explanation, but ground is shrinking.
Missed DarthPunk's post about defending Jingle and pushing on GoodKarma. Huge mistake by me for missing it. Bad decision by DarthPunk. - Everyone but scums thinks Jingle is scum-100% townie thinks Jingle is scum
- Lose position to push Jingle if other candidates were brought up
- Distant himself from this mislynch means distant himself from the crowd, hence exposing himself
@DarthPunk
Thought you played a good game. Bet no one really suspect you among the 4 lynch candidate prior to slip. Feel bad for you, you were playing really well but had to fall because of one single mistake.
Jingle reacted immediately. Although given up on the game, caught DP pants down. Instant vote on DP, huge town credit, no way to call bus. aRyu burst into Godlike posting mode. Strong analytical posts on DP. No way to refute. One of the main lynching force behind DP
Both came out with massive town credit after DP flips.
Night 4/ Day 5
Killed Obvious, blocks no one. No particular reason, almost given up.
Meant to end my last post with a case, looked through filter, could not attack anyone. Everyone is good at establishing themselves as townie, even the supposedly gave up Jingle can't be accused without involving WIFOM. Town could afford another mislynch, so even if with good case I would most probably be lynched. Dug a hole and stuck my head inside. Sorry for giving up so early, could be more entertaining.
Summary
Sorry for this shorten version of what is supposed to be my long summary post. Addressed everyone at one point or another in the original post that disappeared along with my browser crashing. Please bear with grammatical error and spelling errors 
Things I learnt
- Hard to be pro-town as scum. Scum buddies to cover, confirmation bias
- Pro-town scum not good play. Too defensive, not enough distraction for town
- Bussing is a huge investment. If I knew this in NMM XVII I could have avoided focusing on confirmed townie in that game.
Again, GG all, nice playing with you all.
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