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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 22:51:59
July 16 2012 14:01 GMT
#1
Newbie Mini Mafia XXII

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Marvellosity is helping me co-host this game. Any questions can be directed towards him or myself. [Marvellosity's filter]

Blzinghand the Magnificent will be providing coaching for the town. VisceraEyes the Terrifying will be providing coaching for the mafia team.



Filters!
  • Ange777
  • Keirathi
  • Promethelax
  • alan133
  • Mordanis
  • Obvious.660
  • MrMedic > JingleHell
  • aRyuujin
  • DarthPunk
  • goodkarma
  • Golbat
  • Shady Sands
  • Zorkmid



+ Show Spoiler [Flips] +

  • Golbat the vigilante was lynched Day 1.
  • Promethelax the vanilla townie was lynched Day 2.
  • Keirathi the mason was killed Night 2.
  • Zorkmid the goon was lynched Day 3.
  • Mordanis the vanilla townie was killed Night 3.
  • DarthPunk the godfather was lynched Day 4.
  • Obvious.660 the vanilla townie was killed Night 4.
  • Alan133 the mafia roleblocker was lynched Day 5.



+ Show Spoiler [Important Posts] +

  • Beginning of Day 1
  • End of Day 1
  • End of Night 1
  • End of Day 2
  • End of Night 2
  • End of Day 3
  • End of Night 3
  • End of Day 4
  • End of Night 4
  • Endgame

They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 15:21:59
July 16 2012 14:01 GMT
#2
Introduction:

Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.

The game is typically very active, so the thread will get big quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play. I will not compensate for ignorance.


Rules:

Cheating: Standard rules apply. If you're not familiar with them, please read them below.
+ Show Spoiler +
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
5. Posting screenshots of your inbox.
6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.
7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
10. Sharing accounts with other players unless cleared by the host in advance. Otherwise, only you may post on your account.
11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM.
12. Posting a false role PM phrased as if you received it from the host. You can still fake roleclaim, but you cannot make it look like you are posting a PM you received from the host.

Cheating is not tolerated here. The punishment will be severe.

Posting:

Mod Font:
This is mod font. It is reserved for moderators. Please do not use it.

Question Font:
This is question font. Use it to ask the moderators questions about the rules. Please do us a favor and read the rules before you ask anything.

Activity:
You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled.

Smurfs:
On April 26 2011 13:22 mikeymoo wrote:
Smurfs must PM the host because TL doesn't allow multiple accounts otherwise. If the host is unaware of smurfs, you (and/or your smurf) can be banned for having multiple accounts.


Spam:
Spam is not tolerated, nor is any off-topic material. Do not discuss Proleague here. Do not talk about Starcraft II here. Play Mafia here. This also means you should condense your posts when possible. 15 one-liners in 30 minutes is unacceptable.

Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be replaced. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. While I ask for everybody to post as concisely as possible, post again if you have to edit anything.

Inappropriate posts:
If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, Flamewheel, or Mig before involving the TL staff. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.

Reporting posts:
The report button is a nice feature for regular TL, but not for this forum. We prefer to deal with things in house if possible to avoid confusion among the TL staff. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, talk to the host, co-host, Flamewheel, or Mig before using your report button. Please do not use your report button for anything other than inappropriate posts which you feel are not being dealt with adequately.

Ban discussions:
Please wait until this game is over to talk about replacements/modkills and bans resulting from this game.

Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game.

You have been warned.



Out of thread communication:

It is common for mafia (and town circles if PMs are allowed) to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Please be mindful that other players may be more tech savvy than you and they may attempt impersonate members of your team or attempt to infiltrate your chat. You use these media at your own risk.



Voting rules:

1. Voting is done in this thread. Please keep votes here, and only vote here. Do not PM us your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance. To change your vote, post ##unvote, then vote normally.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
5. This game uses Majority Lynch. i.e. six players remain, four are needed to lynch.
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.


Signups:

This game is open to anyone who has played three or less games of Mafia on TL. Signups will remain open until all 13 spots have been filled.


Game-specific rules:

Modkills:
This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to it for questions about your punishment. If you want to use this game to sit out your ban, please PM Flamewheel or post in the Ban List.

Replacements
This game uses replacements. Replacements will be made in the game until Day Three. If a player is modkilled during the designated time, then they will be replaced by a player on the replacement list. Replacements are greatly preferred over modkills, so please PM one of the hosts if you are willing to replace in and don't ask for the obs QT.

Clues:
There are (no) clues.

PMs
PMs are (not) allowed in this game.

Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 48 hour day cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Currently the deadline is 21:00 GMT (+00:00), but that is subject to change. Actions/votes will be accepted up to and including the posted time, but not after.


Credits:
Thanks to anyone who has ever hosted a game. This list grows ever longer.
Thanks to everyone who helped balance this game.

If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I will not compensate for ignorance!
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 20:35:46
July 16 2012 14:01 GMT
#3
The Setup


This is a semi-open setup. You will know which roles may appear in the game but not the number. Well, there is at least one vanilla townie. But that's all you know.

This setup is based on the C9++ setup. Since this is a newbie game, I'll be making a few changes to make it more newbie friendly. Only the roles listed below will be included in the game.

Role PMs:

Vanilla Townie: You are a Vanilla Townie! The mafia has moved into your town, and you want them out. The only tools you have at your disposal is your wits and your votes. Use them well!

Cop: You are a Cop! Every night, you may investigate a single player to determine if they are Innocent or Guilty. You are guaranteed to be sane.

Doctor: You are a Doctor! Every night, you may check in on a player, and administer medical aid if necessary. You block one KP. Neither you nor your target are notified of a successful save.

Vigilante: You are a Vigilante! Once per game, you may take justice into your own hands and shoot another player in the game. If you are roleblocked, your bullet is refunded. If the target is medic'd, your bullet is gone.

Mason: You are a Mason! We've done everything we can to stop you from talking to your fellow townies, but gosh-durnit, are you stubborn. You will share a QT with another townie where you can communicate outside of the main thread.

Roleblocker: You are a Roleblocker! You're kind of a scary fellow. Every night, you may stand outside someone's house and convince them that it really is better to go back to bed, rather than whatever they had planned that night. Your target will always be notified of a roleblock.

Goon: You are a Goon! You and your scumbuddies came to this gentle town to try to take over… whatever it is they're doing here. You win when you outnumber the town, or nothing can stop this from happening.

Godfather: You are a Godfather! Because you're so horribly, horribly old, no one would ever suspect you of wrongdoing. Because of that, you return innocent to any cop checks.

Roleblocker: You are a Roleblocker! You're kind of a scary fellow. Every night, you may stand outside someone's house and convince them that it really is better to go back to bed, rather than whatever they had planned that night. Your target will always be notified of a roleblock.




Q&A

  • Town wins when there are no more scum.
  • Scum wins when they outnumber town or nothing can prevent this from happening.
  • Scum KP is fixed at 1.
  • It takes (players remaining)/2 rounded up votes to lynch somebody. ie, with 6 players in the game, it takes 4 to lynch.
  • The mason's ability cannot be roleblocked.
  • Doctor cannot target himself. Doctor cannot target the same player two nights in a row.
  • Role PMs may vary slightly from the ones shown here.
  • There are no 3rd Party Planer Dragons in this game. Probably.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 14:03:27
July 16 2012 14:01 GMT
#4
shamelessly stole this from EchelonTee. thanks mate!

Newbie-specific stuff


  1. It's already in the rules, but remember, no editing. If you feel you must correct your post, please make a second post to clarify your statements. You may put EBWOP ("Edit by way of post," a handy acronym invented by semioldguy) at the beginning of your post to indicate that you are clearing up a point you made. If your EBWOP post is several posts after your original, please quote your original post in your EBWOP post for the sake of clarity.

  2. Only sign up if you know you will have the time available to properly play the game. It is essential that players remain active in a newbie game, so only /in if you are able to play to your fullest.

  3. If there is any sort of issue, you are unsure about some mechanic, or you are just wondering if your devilish scheme is even allowed, feel free to PM me, or ask in-thread with green text. Don't feel shy; these games are meant to be a place to learn and be open.

  4. Behave as gentlemen (or ladies). Things get heated here, but personal attacks will not be acceptable, and will be dealt with accordingly. Remember, this is a game; have fun and happy scumhunting!

  5. glhf!





Useful Guides
  • A General Guide to Playing Mafia - very useful!
  • LSB's Newbie Guide
  • Mafiascum Newbie Guide
  • Introduction to Mafia (Flash)
  • Ver's town guide
  • Ace's Mafia Manifesto
  • Qatol's Town Guide
  • Qatol's Mafia VII Experience
  • Ace's Cop/Vigi guide
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 23:22:17
July 16 2012 14:02 GMT
#5
Game Analysis


This game had a lot of solid play from players on both sides. Here's a brief list of some of the analysis put down by the players of the game and the observers.

  • [host] ghost_403 and [host] Marvellosity's host notes [Finished through Night 2. I'm working on it!]
  • [host] ghost_403 on setup, game summary and MVPs
  • [coach] Blazinghand and [town] Shady Sands coaching QT
  • [coach] Blazinghand on player's performances, Part 1 and Part 2
  • [town] Keirathi on player's performances
  • [scum] DarthPunk on player's performances
  • [town] Shady Sands on player's performances
  • [scum] alan133 on Mafia team's game plan

A huge thanks to all the people who put their time and energy into analyzing this game!
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
July 16 2012 19:25 GMT
#6
/in

This would be my 4th and final game as Newbie
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 16 2012 22:20 GMT
#7
/in
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
July 16 2012 22:21 GMT
#8
/obs
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 17 2012 00:49 GMT
#9
On July 17 2012 07:20 Zorkmid wrote:
/in


is this game suitable for you?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 17 2012 04:22 GMT
#10
/ininininin
Not a goddamn chance I'll be modkilled
A very good chance that my 9pm-6am work schedule will make me wierd.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
alan133
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia159 Posts
July 17 2012 07:36 GMT
#11
/in
Missed the last newbie mafia, time for another one :D
alan133
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia159 Posts
July 17 2012 07:47 GMT
#12

Some questions:
  • Vigil shoots scum scum shoots vigil. What happens?
  • Both vigil and scum shoots same target. Is the bullet refunded for vigil?
  • I probably know this already but can medics heal themselves?
  • How do scums work? Only one scum is allowed to send in a kill, and if he is role blocked, the kill is blocked too?


marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 17 2012 11:51 GMT
#13
On July 17 2012 16:47 alan133 wrote:

Some questions:
  • Vigil shoots scum scum shoots vigil. What happens?
  • Both vigil and scum shoots same target. Is the bullet refunded for vigil?
  • I probably know this already but can medics heal themselves?
  • How do scums work? Only one scum is allowed to send in a kill, and if he is role blocked, the kill is blocked too?




As far as I know

- both die
- no
- no
- have to wait on ghost for that one
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#14
What Marv said, with the addendum that if the first one happened, it's gonna be super dramatic and suspenseful and stuff.

The scum work as a team, so one team member can send in the nightkill and any scum night actions (assuming the power role says it's okay). So, for example, if Marv, Chezinu and me were all scum, and I was a scum RB, Marv could send in
Chezinu kills Qatol, Ghost roleblocks Dreamflower

If Chezinu was roleblocked, the nightkill would not go through.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 17 2012 13:39 GMT
#15
Can a roleblocker block a roleblocker?
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 17 2012 13:42 GMT
#16
On July 17 2012 22:39 Zorkmid wrote:
Can a roleblocker block a roleblocker?


Both roleblockers are notified that they are roleblocked. If one of the roleblockers is supposed to carry out the nightkill, it doesn't go through.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 17 2012 13:47 GMT
#17
Is it correct that a Roleblocker would only really carry out a nightkill if he was the only remaining scum?
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 17 2012 13:58 GMT
#18
A single scum can carry out the nightkill and any night action they might have at any point in the game.

Can't say if that's a good idea or not.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
July 17 2012 23:53 GMT
#19
/in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+ Show Spoiler +
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Summer school's finally over, work's even-ing out, time to play my final mafia game :D:D:D:D:D
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
July 18 2012 00:08 GMT
#20
wb mordanis!
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