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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 17:21 GMT
#2188
On July 21 2012 02:16 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 02:01 rastaban wrote:
On July 21 2012 01:49 Foolishness wrote:
On July 21 2012 01:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 21 2012 01:14 Foolishness wrote:
On July 21 2012 00:57 Palmar wrote:
your persistence is amazing kurumi.

Did I mention katina is scum? How about you look into her?

Don't trash one of the few people that's making sense this game.

looool
Your contributions to this game have been overwhelming foolishness, I have seen the light and realized that katina is indeed valuable to the town. How could I have not seen this before... riiiiiight.

Anyway we need to all make sure kurumi dies today. There's no excuse if he somehow wiggles out of this again. People need to remember this, it doesn't matter what alignment sandroba is at this point, kurumi got caught hook line and sinker. It'd be actually retarded if he somehow gets away.

It's great to discuss more potential lynch targets but everyone needs to make sure the kurumi lynch happens today. I've seen a couple people call him town in the last couple pages (cough rastaban cough) this is just grossly negligent failure to read the thread, don't let this sentiment somehow take hold. Again, if you think about it, it doesn't matter which side sandro is on for kurumi to be scum.

Well you should have seen it a lot of earlier. Can you give me a name of someone who makes more sense? I can only think of two people in which you can make an argument for.

It's fine to discuss potential lynch targets, the issue is that it is day two and literally every player has been accused. There's absolutely zero focus. One page people are talking about Zealos, 3 pages later it's about Chezinu. With so many cases it's hard to tell who is actually trying to make a case (townies) and who's just fueling the fire (mafia). From what I can see though the people of interest in this regard are Blazinghand (should be obvious by now), marvellosity, and HiroPro. supersoft, Mattchew, Probulous, Palmar and yourself are somewhat guilty but not to the same extent.


Other than BM where should the focus be? Don't you beleive that Kurumi and Zealos are scum? We have BH after both of them. I am confused on what you want to focus on, is their more to discuss on these 3 players? I am just confused as to what you mean by wanting to focus. It seems to me that town is pretty agreed on the next, 2 if not 3 lynches.

Clearly there's still plenty more to discuss as the number of times I've seen a unique "Player X should be our day 3 lynch" is substantial.

Kurumi yes (that's why I've voted for him), Blazinghand yes, Bill Murray yes, Zealos I'm not convinced at all. Frankly there's no real case against him. You and blazinghand and Kurumi (as well as a few others) have all claimed he's mafia but have yet to provide more than a single sentence explanation. It was the same thing that happened with austin yesterday; nobody really made a case against him, everyone just decided to sheep along with one persons' thoughts and jump ship. Until someone actually makes a case there's no reason why Zealos should be getting killed.


LIES

LIES AND SLANDER

On July 20 2012 04:09 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 05:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 19 2012 05:16 Zealos wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:
On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die

Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you?

Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip.

You are making this so easy.
I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me?

._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now.


That is super odd to me. Clearly his logic makes no sense, and he's trying to buddy up to who he thinks will be an influential town player.


LOL WUT

LOL

"an influential town player"

Kurumi at that time? Are you fucking kidding me? Kurumi was caught scum and was self-destructing, and I figured on the off chance he was town I'd give him some advice on what to do before he died so that after the flip he'd look good. Are you even paying attention? Kurumi? Did you read the thread?

Come on, man, there's tons of evidence against me, tons of qutoes you could use, and you used THAT ONE? Did you just quote a random post from me or what? Put some serious effort in. It's not THAT HARD.

LOL

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On July 19 2012 05:47 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 19 2012 05:44 HiroPro wrote:
On July 19 2012 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
pretty likely scum. from what i've seen he doesn't really afk as town yet he got himself modkilled as scum in LV for no apparent reason.

Flip flopping on BH due to his self-vote past the deadline. Now I don't particularly like that either, but it's not like he didn't admit to it straight away. Then he's justifying his read with the crap about influential town Kurumi.

clearly smacks of not reading the thread and if you're attempting to make a case knowing nothing about thread happenings then actually you're just shitting things up = scum.




Everyone please read the last 3/4 page with Zealos and his filter. He's scum.


I concur. I hate to OMGUS but I really can't see a town player doing what zealos did, which was to not read the thread, find someone who's a bit scummy and pressure him in a shitty way that reveals unwittingly that he hasn't been reading the thread at all.

At first I just couldn't stop laughing at how bad it was, but it's just super clear Zealos is scum, so he'll have my vote come daybreak.


Case basically writes itself.

Much kudos to HiroPro for staying on Zealos this whole time. Zealos should be the D3 lynch imo

On July 20 2012 04:12 Blazinghand wrote:
Like, I wish I could write MORE on Zealos, but his strategy this entire game has been to never post except to show up and call things "odd" and "weird" and then dissappear and lurk more. His attack on me is scummy as dicks, and then this:

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On July 19 2012 05:26 Zealos wrote:
I'll just go ahead and vote for BH at the start of day2 then leave you guys to it. bb,


like, what? What about kurumi, what about making a real case, what about checking in on things or being remotely helpful?

This is scum trying to skate by, every one of his choices this game is clearly undefendable from town motivation, but easily has scum motivation.




That plus Sandro's claim against him, whatever credibility you hold in Sandro, is the Zealos case
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 17:31 GMT
#2192
Man why is foolishness all up in my butt about zealos, shouldn't he be attacking me for a myriad of other reasons
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 17:41 GMT
#2198
On July 21 2012 02:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
I find it interesting that you didn't take issue with the FIRST assumption, that if he is UNABLE, then he's certainly scum bussing his department...which is more of an empirical statement and actually more of an assumption. :/

I'd like everyone's thoughts plz.


Lynch Zeal + Kuru, but in the meantime test sandro (since one or both could be bus)
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 17:43 GMT
#2200
On July 21 2012 02:41 sandroba wrote:
Rofl, I can't believe the retardation going on in the last pages. And no I'm not going to message a person you choose. If you want to find out if I'm mafia or not without using your heads I guess you are going to have to lynch me.


I don't like your attitude in this post. Shouldn't you be wanting to be as confirmed-townie as possible?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 17:46 GMT
#2203
On July 21 2012 02:45 sandroba wrote:
I don't like your lack of logic. I guess we are even.


Well. I'm just saying, one of us is like a super baller town leader who's helping town to supposedly get 2 good lynches, and the other is sandro and should stop being butthurt and help the town
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 18:12 GMT
#2212
On July 21 2012 03:10 Foolishness wrote:
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On July 21 2012 02:45 HiroPro wrote:
You know what I find interesting Foolishness? The fact that Kurumi's response to sandroba's message is enough for you to kill him, but Zealos's response to sandroba's message isn't even worth mentioning in your read.

Your "case" against him is taking things completely out of context. Zealos said early on he didn't like the BH lynch cause it was overtunneled and had weak reasons. He changed his opinion later on and he even said so and gave a reason why. I'm pretty sure I can find at least two other people who didn't like the BH lynch at first either but then changed their minds later (Probulous and VE come to my mind, correct me if I'm wrong though).

What's the rest of your case about? It seems to me to be all about not voting BH and then deciding to vote him. He clearly explained himself (yeah I agree not the best explanation in the world, but you're nitpicking at nothing).

Again, post a case otherwise there's no reason to be talking about lynching this guy.


Don't forget the parts where he's not doing anything helpful and then gets outed by sandro.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 18:20 GMT
#2216
On July 21 2012 03:18 austinmcc wrote:
- Kurumi's PM said to do something, which he did
- Zealos didn't say anything about his PM

The responses are different. Kurumi obeyed a PM when we didn't know anyone but mafia could send messages. Zealos didn't mention his PM, and either hasn't read thread or is pretending not to read thread and know about Sandroba's claim, and either didn't understand that the message sounded like mafia orders or is pretending not to understand what it sounded like.


the natural response, as a townie, if you received a PM that looked like orders, is to post it to the thread. why would you do anything but that? The only reason you wouldn't is if you were scum and you thought those orders were for you.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 18:23 GMT
#2219
On July 21 2012 03:21 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 03:12 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 21 2012 03:10 Foolishness wrote:
On July 21 2012 02:45 HiroPro wrote:
You know what I find interesting Foolishness? The fact that Kurumi's response to sandroba's message is enough for you to kill him, but Zealos's response to sandroba's message isn't even worth mentioning in your read.

Your "case" against him is taking things completely out of context. Zealos said early on he didn't like the BH lynch cause it was overtunneled and had weak reasons. He changed his opinion later on and he even said so and gave a reason why. I'm pretty sure I can find at least two other people who didn't like the BH lynch at first either but then changed their minds later (Probulous and VE come to my mind, correct me if I'm wrong though).

What's the rest of your case about? It seems to me to be all about not voting BH and then deciding to vote him. He clearly explained himself (yeah I agree not the best explanation in the world, but you're nitpicking at nothing).

Again, post a case otherwise there's no reason to be talking about lynching this guy.


Don't forget the parts where he's not doing anything helpful and then gets outed by sandro.

Here's a list of people who aren't doing anything helpful:

Sloosh, HiroPro, Bill Murray, MZ, austin, syllogism, GGQ, yourself, Kurumi, Mattchew, marvellosity, risk,nuke, Qbertz, Palmar, and Zealos.

Hardly a reason to be killing Zealos when I can easily say the same thing about any of the above players. Furthermore from what I understand sandroba sent him a message and he didn't post it. From his filter it's quite clear to me the guy has no idea what's going on in the game, I don't see anything unnatural about how he handled the situation. Dumb/bored townie != mafia.


AND he hasn't been reading the thread. Are all of these things just coincidences in your mind? Is Zealos just magically at the crossroads of all these scummy behaviors and patterns, each of which, sure, might individually happen t a townie, but all of which together point towards scum? It's like if you walk by someone and they make a weird face, ok, fine, but if you walk by 10 people and they all make weird faces it's time to check your deoderant
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 18:25 GMT
#2220
On July 21 2012 03:23 Foolishness wrote:
sandroba didn't send Kurumi a PM
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 02:49 sandroba wrote:
Yes I am denying it. I didn't message kurumi. There are 9 mafia in this game so I guess I'm one short I'm sorry. And yes I didn't know katina was mafia for sure until her recent post that says she is mafia. Please teach me so I can do better.


Even more reason to lynch Zealos instead!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 18:36 GMT
#2228
On July 21 2012 03:34 syllogism wrote:
Stop arguing with mafia, in particular Foolishness.

Katina how come you don't want to lynch Foolishness tomorrow?


Because she's mafia with him.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 18:57 GMT
#2236
On July 21 2012 03:51 austinmcc wrote:
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On July 21 2012 03:46 sandroba wrote:
And by the way, 2 people messaged kurumi. Me on day1 and someone who is not chezinu on night 1 (chezinu messaged wbg).

No. Chezinu said that he did NOT message WBG
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On July 20 2012 14:41 Chezinu wrote:
For instance, I knows I didn't write no message to WBG.. and sand no wrote a message to WBG... so who R did?

Chezinu, as far as I can tell, has claimed to message:

D1 - ?
N1 - BH
D2 - VE

I think? Slightly unsure of the timing on the BH message.


I received my PM near the beginning of D2.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 20:19 GMT
#2252
Well, it doesn't look like Zealos is gonna get lynched. I'm moving my vote back onto Kurumi to ensure we don't no-lynch, since it's such a close race.

##unvote
##vote: kurumi
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 21:08 GMT
#2281
Kurumi, I am utterly confused.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 21:12 GMT
#2287
On July 21 2012 06:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wait town-cred is like..meaningless in this setup isn't it? :/

Okay I'm willing to wait on Sandro. I really wish he'd confirm that he can send messages to townies though, because his aim is bordering on too phenomenal to be earnest.


Well, even if Kurumi was a non-obvious choice, Zealos was a solid one, and he has 1/3 chance of hitting scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 21:39 GMT
#2312
Can I take credit for syllo being scum? I definitely briefly attacked him at some point long ago.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 22:16 GMT
#2328
I'm crazy! I'll do it!

##unvote
##vote: sandroba
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 22:30 GMT
#2342
On July 21 2012 07:30 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:28 austinmcc wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want to eliminate Executives. I think Sandroba is the Director of Marketing or the Chairman of the Board.

And Austinmcc isn't bad. He's paranoid, and now I am too.


+ Show Spoiler +
hatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshats!hats!hats!


why do you guys even want to eleminate executives. I thought they have no powers?!


They have the best powers, communication
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 23:36 GMT
#2365
On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm crazy! I'll do it!

##unvote
##vote: sandroba

Okay, really?

Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty.


What? No. You're ignoring the possibility of Kurumi flipping scum. If Sandro IS somehow legit, then Zealos is also scum. What is it with you and trying to lynch me in literally every game we play together? ._.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 20 2012 23:39 GMT
#2367
On July 21 2012 08:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm crazy! I'll do it!

##unvote
##vote: sandroba

Okay, really?

Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty.


I'm inclined to agree, but I REALLY REALLY want to lynch Executives. This inter-office communication bullshit is gonna continue to be convoluted and confusing.

Katina, do you think I'm insane for thinking sandroba is scum? If so, please tell me nicely.


Look, I think it's pretty clear what's gonna happen. Either Kurumi flips scum and we lynch zealos tomorrow, or Kurumi flips town and we lynch Sandro tomorrow. I don't see how it could possibly be optimal to lynch me tomorrow.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 21 2012 00:35 GMT
#2416
Sandro I've been nothing but helpful. If you really still believe in yourself we should be lynching Zealos tomorrow, right?
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