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On July 04 2012 04:16 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 04:14 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 04 2012 04:09 Oberyn wrote:
If Grey is mafia cool Nova is most likely town and you guys will need a town 8/8 beast.
If Grey is town and you fear Nova is scum Spellbomb it yourself next turn (you still have AEther Spellbomb).
I won't spellbomb it now in case Grey flips scum, Nova is town and we just made a huge mistake that may cost us the game (well, if Grey flips scum it's unlikely, but still).
There's no rush, at worst Nova will use it on Mattchew or something this turn (but you can still spellbomb it next turn) If mafia has both a 12/1 and an 8/8 creature there is reason to rush. If they don't we're fine playing the long game without the 8/8 creature because it's only one mafia left. Also as Artanis just told us mafia have to eliminate every single townie, they don't even win in a 1v1 situation because of endgame, which gives us another turn. We have plenty of time if Greymist flips red. Except for Nova noone is having a strong board right now (well and you, but you're most likely going to die today). If nova is mafia he could probably outright claim mafia and wipe the floor with us with 22 damage the next turn, 24 the turn after that and us having something like 6 damage tops per player. How many times do I have to repeat that you still have your Spellbomb in your board? Unless you think Nova has a "Remove Artifact from play" card and will use it as soon as D4 starts >_>
Yeah I guess that's right... I just think it's going to be a shitton of mafia damage when we're wrong on Grey and we can't deal with that kind of thing.
My 4/4 myr has no trample, even a single 1/1 creature could just block that and it's done. I just don't think we could kill mafia in time if Nova really turns out to be mafia AND keeps that 8/8 with trample.
While I think we'd be in a great position either way if we spellbomb Nova.
I guess you're right, waiting one cycle is not going to lose us the game, especially if mattchew isn't looking townish at all, he's just not the optimal target right now.
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Dude don't scare me like that, it makes me think that maybe you are scum trying to get both 8/8 town beasts (from a town Nova and a townie me once you kill me tonight) dead by next turn so your team (that most likely may not include Grey) wins more easily >_>
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After a scum Wiggles tried to "convince me" to lynch prplhz instead of Palmar on iGrok's game I get more paranoid about people suddenly "urging" me to do something drastic out of a sudden 
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Doesn't really apply in this case since if you were scum you can easily Spellbomb Nova's creature alone by yourself (it was just an example of me getting nervous when people do that >_> )
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On July 04 2012 04:30 Oberyn wrote:
Dude don't scare me like that, it makes me think that maybe you are scum trying to get both 8/8 town beasts (from a town Nova and a townie me once you kill me tonight) dead by next turn so your team (that most likely may not include Grey) wins more easily >_>
If I were scum I'd either just spellbomb it myself or just chill and don't risk anything while you keep telling everyone how townish I am.
You can believe me, I am scared about nova and that is all, that's why I asked you about it in the first place because nova STILL hasn't shown up although I told him to get in here early enough so I can choose wether to equip or spellbomb if the backfires us.
If I were mafia I would just shut up about that and talk about different things.
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On July 04 2012 04:38 WereBugs-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 04:30 Oberyn wrote:
Dude don't scare me like that, it makes me think that maybe you are scum trying to get both 8/8 town beasts (from a town Nova and a townie me once you kill me tonight) dead by next turn so your team (that most likely may not include Grey) wins more easily >_> If I were scum I'd either just spellbomb it myself or just chill and don't risk anything while you keep telling everyone how townish I am. You can believe me, I am scared about nova and that is all, that's why I asked you about it in the first place because nova STILL hasn't shown up although I told him to get in here early enough so I can choose wether to equip or spellbomb if the backfires us. If I were mafia I would just shut up about that and talk about different things.
So...how's the weather?
lol, but okay people, I'm leaving and won't be back until after the phase ends.
So good luck! (and hopefully Grey flips scum)
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On July 04 2012 04:42 WereBugs-Go wrote:
##Equip Skullclamp to Myr Enforcer
Wait...does this mean your Myr gets 5/3 AFTER you attack Greymist or before?
Make sure it's before if you don't want Grey to be alive with 1 HP next turn.
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Main Phase 4
After a long struggle, Oberyn felt the Planeswalkers nearing him. Realizing he was out of energy, all he could do was run, but it was no use as the Mafia creature gave chase and quickly swept him up. Oberyn was eaten alive as the other travellers looked in terror.
The remaining travellers thought long and hard about whom to attack next, and eventually decided GreYMisT was the one that looked the most suspicious. Gathering their strength, they used a combination of creature spells to knock the weary traveller to his doom. Unfortunately, they quickly discovered that GreYMisT was in fact one of their own.
Oberyn the Town player has been killed!
GreYMisT the Town player has been killed!
The Global Enchantment for today is a sorcery instead.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/o5lfX.jpg)
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Come on. Told ya I shoul have spellbombed that guy...
The rest even dodged attacking in a no-blocking phase wtf is going on.
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Ok, so, if I'm right, and with a little bit of luck, I can dish out a ton of damage to one player this turn. Anyone have any thoughts on who it should be?
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Omfg I'm so sorry, my Internet went completely down earlier today and by the time I got to the nearest Internet cafe they were closed T_T then we got out the new router we had brought and we just fixed it now
We should follow greymists reads and go over his filter
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On July 04 2012 05:34 Nova_Terra wrote:
Omfg I'm so sorry, my Internet went completely down earlier today and by the time I got to the nearest Internet cafe they were closed T_T then we got out the new router we had brought and we just fixed it now
We should follow greymists reads and go over his filter
This shit is easy. You are Mafia and Zealos is not leaving S&B or Mattchew for the last mafia spot.
Greymist said we should kill Zealos. Why should we follow his reads instead of the other ones Oberyn gave? Where's the difference and why should we follow Greymist instead of someone else?
Not that that makes you mafia, but can anyone believe that in a situation like this:
Obe + Grey + WBG + Nova would do a no-kill on n2?
Why not just hit Nova or me. There's no way this can be right. Nova's got to be mafia, that's why they didn't want to confirm shoot into either Nova or me because that would confirm the other guy.
I'm sure as hell town, Obe just flipped town and so did Grey. That means you're mafia pal.
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Hey guys.
I gotta say I'm still pretty surprised that Oberyn is town.
I think nova is scum along with Zealos. Last phase was the second time he just afk'ed for an entire day or more.
He sheeped Oberyn incredibly hard all of day one and hasn't done much since.
Here are some posts from his filler. I mean filter. If you don't get why these are scummy I can explain.
Exhibit one: Nova and Zealos
On June 25 2012 19:54 Nova_Terra wrote:
Thats not an answer zealos you free defense spammer you
On June 27 2012 04:26 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 04:23 Promethelax wrote:On June 27 2012 03:39 Nova_Terra wrote:
at the current state, would anyone have a problem with me attacking Fulla turn 2? Sorry I've been out so long guys, I had people over last night and it went a little more wild than I expected. I've caught up on the thread and it seems to me that attacking Fulla would be fine but I would prefer an attack on Zealos, he doesn't have an excuse for how he has been behaving; scumhunting is always possible if you are someone who knows what they are doing even if the magic is a little out of their league. Fulla is a mafia scrub (like me) and I want to give him a chance to prove himself. I'm biased though since I want people to be easy on me as a scrubby scub too. Zealos is a mafia veteran though. He knows how to play and so far I haven't gotten much from him. I'd like to see some reads from him and some from Matt as well since he hasn't really given us much yet. I'm once again going to be gone for a while but I'll be back for the attack phase. I most likely will not be able to attack Zealos without suiciding things. Not sure though.
On June 27 2012 14:09 Nova_Terra wrote:
Oh I didn't realize the extent of Zealos' lurking, I might go kill
him after all
On June 28 2012 00:48 Nova_Terra wrote:
I'm leaning somewheres between fulla and zealos. I cant decide whether fullas scummyness is a result of him being just newb or just newb town, and i would kill either, but i think the lurker problem is a bit much.
One of the two, at least for now.
On June 28 2012 15:11 Nova_Terra wrote:
Hi,
I like sleep, apologies for not being here,
I revealed my avatar for 2 reasons: the threat of a large trample monster if someone spammed too many creatures or attacked me, and secondly the chance that some good situation like this could come up.
Of course, I have no objections to playing my avatar ( isn't he cute) as I would be in control of an 8/8 trampler. Obyren is town so that's fine too. My deck doesn't scale much from here so no reason to want to prolong my life by not playing it.
However, this will piss a couple of you off, but I will not agree to a vote as to what the avatars do, at least mine. Obyren can choose whatever he wants with his. Why? I currently value the opinions of some over others, for instance that of Obyren or wbg to prome's or s&b's. Is this more dangerous to the town? Not really, you still have multiple aether spell bombs out that I don't control, and I know they will be used if I do anything aside from intelligent from a town perspective. Then I die. Also there's the fact that mafia will hit me this next attack phase. As someone said, they're not leaving around anything stronger than the mafias own beast for the sake of calling wifom. I will be hit today, then one of Obyren or myself will die followed by the other unless I draw a certain card which will both buff my avatar and heal someone else.
So Obyren and I will only be around for another 3-4 turns tops.
For this turn I would want 1 avatar to attak grey and 1 to attack zealos. I think 1 of them is scum.
On June 29 2012 04:20 Nova_Terra wrote:
Thats why i said i wanted to have me attack zealos and Oberyn greymist, I want them both gone really.
On June 29 2012 19:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
I'm attacking zealos unless both oberyn and wbg tell me not to after that last post
On June 30 2012 05:49 Nova_Terra wrote:You know what? I agree with both greymists and s&b's points on zealos and zealos' points on them, and have no idea what to do. If I didn't still have my pride, I would ask oberyn to tell me what to do Thoughts/advice?
On June 30 2012 06:09 Nova_Terra wrote:
I decided that zealos deserves a chance :3
On July 01 2012 21:33 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:27 Oberyn wrote:On July 01 2012 19:23 Nova_Terra wrote:On July 01 2012 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
The scum in this game are strongandbig/Matthew. Go ahead and kill me for the following reasons.
1. So you guys stop wasting time and energy
2. So you can get a reality check into your system and catch actual scum
3. So I get to see gonzaw wrong
You sir are the new Risk.Nuke. Well done.
On a non mafia note I am ashamed that my brother was introduced through this game and your spam. I'm starting to agree with this ( the part about s&b and mattchew) You know....I like that. People posting what they think of the thread "as they go by reading it" makes it very transparent of them. If they just said "okay I'll read the thread", then wait a couple of hours before posting their thoughts, then if they were scum they could easily read the whole thread, capture all the events that happened, and think what the best response would be based on that (taking everything into account). If they had to post "as they read it", then they take away that ability, and they may fuck up by saying something and then realizing they should have said something else; meaning they would most likely not do that at all...which means that the people that do it are more likely town. So Nova, keep doing that to see your thought process (specially when the juicy stuff comes). I realize you are not reading this (and reading the thread instead) so whatever. However props to you for doing that, it makes me feel better about you for now (and that the whole no-night-kill was staged) Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 15:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also I thing sitting back and thinking about opinions is bullshit truthfully, opinions and thoughts should be stated as soon as they are thought of, they should be raw and unrefined and can be explained later. That's more chances for scum to slip up and townieness to shine. I still don't think that shitting up the threa is a bad thing unless there is endless filler. Also zealos is town, no way he woulda told us to move past the night kill first as scum (at least if I'm town)
On July 01 2012 22:17 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 22:03 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 01 2012 21:33 Nova_Terra wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Oberyn wrote:On July 01 2012 19:23 Nova_Terra wrote:On July 01 2012 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
The scum in this game are strongandbig/Matthew. Go ahead and kill me for the following reasons.
1. So you guys stop wasting time and energy
2. So you can get a reality check into your system and catch actual scum
3. So I get to see gonzaw wrong
You sir are the new Risk.Nuke. Well done.
On a non mafia note I am ashamed that my brother was introduced through this game and your spam. I'm starting to agree with this ( the part about s&b and mattchew) You know....I like that. People posting what they think of the thread "as they go by reading it" makes it very transparent of them. If they just said "okay I'll read the thread", then wait a couple of hours before posting their thoughts, then if they were scum they could easily read the whole thread, capture all the events that happened, and think what the best response would be based on that (taking everything into account). If they had to post "as they read it", then they take away that ability, and they may fuck up by saying something and then realizing they should have said something else; meaning they would most likely not do that at all...which means that the people that do it are more likely town. So Nova, keep doing that to see your thought process (specially when the juicy stuff comes). I realize you are not reading this (and reading the thread instead) so whatever. However props to you for doing that, it makes me feel better about you for now (and that the whole no-night-kill was staged) On June 28 2012 15:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also I thing sitting back and thinking about opinions is bullshit truthfully, opinions and thoughts should be stated as soon as they are thought of, they should be raw and unrefined and can be explained later. That's more chances for scum to slip up and townieness to shine. I still don't think that shitting up the threa is a bad thing unless there is endless filler. Also zealos is town, no way he woulda told us to move past the night kill first as scum (at least if I'm town) Are you talking about that post over here from page 47: On July 01 2012 10:48 Zealos wrote:
I'm really inclined to say ignore the non-shot and continue as normal. Presuming the missing shot was deliberate, it was designed to cause chaos. Lets not let it. Because I did this post on page 46: On July 01 2012 08:51 WereBugs-Go wrote:
wtf happened? oO
Is this supposed to be some wifom because they couldn't kill gonzaw and didn't want to attack me / Nova because that'd confirm me or because it would confirm nova (either way lol)? I can't think of this being effective unless we screw up big time. I'd say either way, this is supposed to confuse us SOMEHOW.
Therefore I'd say we don't talk / think about that at all. Surely mafia wants us to talk / think about it for some reason. We're given a free circle. Let's use that circle without even getting into wifom.
If someone else already said something like that sorry. I'm just now catching up. Also I have to kill one of my monsters... I'm still not drawing lands and if I kill one I can draw to more cards.
Does your "I guess that confirms Zealos" argument still hold anything of value? Didnt see that sry I still think Zealos is town yes And i think that that decision to ignore the no-attack does help his case for being town, although not as much as it would have
Exhibit two: the rest of nova's filter
On June 26 2012 21:36 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also I do not like the plan to all attack with everything. I may decide to block no matter what you decide to do, although I will probably be attacking someone I find scummy.
For turn 2, that is.
On June 26 2012 04:30 Nova_Terra wrote:
Actually i'm gonna tunnel fulla now until he dies or he comes up with some amazing contribution that completely outclasses all other contributions made in this game as of yet
On June 28 2012 15:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also I thing sitting back and thinking about opinions is bullshit truthfully, opinions and thoughts should be stated as soon as they are thought of, they should be raw and unrefined and can be explained later. That's more chances for scum to slip up and townieness to shine. I still don't think that shitting up the threa is a bad thing unless there is endless filler.
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On July 04 2012 05:42 WereBugs-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 05:34 Nova_Terra wrote:
Omfg I'm so sorry, my Internet went completely down earlier today and by the time I got to the nearest Internet cafe they were closed T_T then we got out the new router we had brought and we just fixed it now
We should follow greymists reads and go over his filter This shit is easy. You are Mafia and Zealos is not leaving S&B or Mattchew for the last mafia spot. Greymist said we should kill Zealos. Why should we follow his reads instead of the other ones Oberyn gave? Where's the difference and why should we follow Greymist instead of someone else? Not that that makes you mafia, but can anyone believe that in a situation like this: Obe + Grey + WBG + Nova would do a no-kill on n2? Why not just hit Nova or me. There's no way this can be right. Nova's got to be mafia, that's why they didn't want to confirm shoot into either Nova or me because that would confirm the other guy. I'm sure as hell town, Obe just flipped town and so did Grey. That means you're mafia pal.
why the bolded
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On July 04 2012 05:55 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 05:42 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 04 2012 05:34 Nova_Terra wrote:
Omfg I'm so sorry, my Internet went completely down earlier today and by the time I got to the nearest Internet cafe they were closed T_T then we got out the new router we had brought and we just fixed it now
We should follow greymists reads and go over his filter This shit is easy. You are Mafia and Zealos is not leaving S&B or Mattchew for the last mafia spot. Greymist said we should kill Zealos. Why should we follow his reads instead of the other ones Oberyn gave? Where's the difference and why should we follow Greymist instead of someone else? Not that that makes you mafia, but can anyone believe that in a situation like this: Obe + Grey + WBG + Nova would do a no-kill on n2? Why not just hit Nova or me. There's no way this can be right. Nova's got to be mafia, that's why they didn't want to confirm shoot into either Nova or me because that would confirm the other guy. I'm sure as hell town, Obe just flipped town and so did Grey. That means you're mafia pal. why the bolded
On July 04 2012 05:55 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 05:42 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 04 2012 05:34 Nova_Terra wrote:
Omfg I'm so sorry, my Internet went completely down earlier today and by the time I got to the nearest Internet cafe they were closed T_T then we got out the new router we had brought and we just fixed it now
We should follow greymists reads and go over his filter This shit is easy. You are Mafia and Zealos is not leaving S&B or Mattchew for the last mafia spot. Greymist said we should kill Zealos. Why should we follow his reads instead of the other ones Oberyn gave? Where's the difference and why should we follow Greymist instead of someone else? Not that that makes you mafia, but can anyone believe that in a situation like this: Obe + Grey + WBG + Nova would do a no-kill on n2? Why not just hit Nova or me. There's no way this can be right. Nova's got to be mafia, that's why they didn't want to confirm shoot into either Nova or me because that would confirm the other guy. I'm sure as hell town, Obe just flipped town and so did Grey. That means you're mafia pal. why the bolded
because he just said "let's do what Greymist wanted to do".
If I remember correctly Greymist was the guy attacking Zealos.
I'll check filters later on and check if it makes sense given what they posted, but I think we've got something that is a nice town-tell for Zealos here and it's comming from a mafia.
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On July 04 2012 05:58 WereBugs-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 05:55 strongandbig wrote:On July 04 2012 05:42 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 04 2012 05:34 Nova_Terra wrote:
Omfg I'm so sorry, my Internet went completely down earlier today and by the time I got to the nearest Internet cafe they were closed T_T then we got out the new router we had brought and we just fixed it now
We should follow greymists reads and go over his filter This shit is easy. You are Mafia and Zealos is not leaving S&B or Mattchew for the last mafia spot. Greymist said we should kill Zealos. Why should we follow his reads instead of the other ones Oberyn gave? Where's the difference and why should we follow Greymist instead of someone else? Not that that makes you mafia, but can anyone believe that in a situation like this: Obe + Grey + WBG + Nova would do a no-kill on n2? Why not just hit Nova or me. There's no way this can be right. Nova's got to be mafia, that's why they didn't want to confirm shoot into either Nova or me because that would confirm the other guy. I'm sure as hell town, Obe just flipped town and so did Grey. That means you're mafia pal. why the bolded Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 05:55 strongandbig wrote:On July 04 2012 05:42 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 04 2012 05:34 Nova_Terra wrote:
Omfg I'm so sorry, my Internet went completely down earlier today and by the time I got to the nearest Internet cafe they were closed T_T then we got out the new router we had brought and we just fixed it now
We should follow greymists reads and go over his filter This shit is easy. You are Mafia and Zealos is not leaving S&B or Mattchew for the last mafia spot. Greymist said we should kill Zealos. Why should we follow his reads instead of the other ones Oberyn gave? Where's the difference and why should we follow Greymist instead of someone else? Not that that makes you mafia, but can anyone believe that in a situation like this: Obe + Grey + WBG + Nova would do a no-kill on n2? Why not just hit Nova or me. There's no way this can be right. Nova's got to be mafia, that's why they didn't want to confirm shoot into either Nova or me because that would confirm the other guy. I'm sure as hell town, Obe just flipped town and so did Grey. That means you're mafia pal. why the bolded because he just said "let's do what Greymist wanted to do". If I remember correctly Greymist was the guy attacking Zealos. I'll check filters later on and check if it makes sense given what they posted, but I think we've got something that is a nice town-tell for Zealos here and it's comming from a mafia.
zealos didnt say that nova did
Unless you mean that zealos isn't mafia because nova is mafia and he said we should follow greymist who wanted to attack zealos
I think that's a little convoluted. See my post above for what I think of the interaction between nova and zealos. I think nova was on zealos for little to no reason at the start and then backed off of him for little to no reason. it's also possible that nova was waiting to attack today so he could get a better excuse to not attack zealos than "catface," and then the internet went down. I don't think he had no internet for a full 24 hours.
Also an important fact: I'm pretty sure greymist thought i was scum more than zealos at the end there. I'm not scum, and greymist was wrong about that, but we shouldn't misrepresent what he said.
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Also I plan on playing ![[image loading]](http://www.magic-ville.com/pics/big/str/044.jpg) today. I think Nova is scum and his board is enormous, and I want to give myself and by extension the rest of the town a way to control it somewhat.
I will consider not playing that and playing other things instead iff presented with good reasons by other townies.
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I see that Matt attacked me and now I'll be dead next turn. Nice going!
So there goes my huge nuke I was going to dish out for the town in 2 turns.
I seriously think Matt is either retarded (at mafia) or is definitely scum. Reducing me to the kill threshold is stupid. Also his reasons for accusing are trivial.
Anyways Next turn I'm suicide bombing someone. I can probably deal about 10 damage and tap 2-3 creatures of someones. I'll analyze my hand and list the strongest possibilities I can offer.
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Guys please consider at Matt / Nova possible connection. Not just Nova / Zeal.
Matt just handed me over for a 1 turn kill to the scum.
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