Even though you have a scumread on BKE? You think it's more likely that Hyaach is town-cop, has an innocent on your scum-read, and that you were framed?

That's more likely than Hyaach is lying scum, protecting his scumbuddy BKE, your scumread?

Katina

United States454 Posts

July 07 2012 04:12 GMT

#1563

First impression I thought he was lying. As I have said I had a scumread on BKE and was suspicous of Hyaach. Then after going back over Hyaach's filter I can see how his DT claim could be legit. So it would make sense that I was framed.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

July 07 2012 04:16 GMT

#1564

Who would you suggest we lynch instead of you?

Katina

United States454 Posts

July 07 2012 04:20 GMT

#1565

I'm not sure anymore. I have to go back and look through everything. My read on Mandalor, is still on Mafia. I'm still suspicious of Maju. Again, I will need to go back with this new information and take another look at the players.

MajuGarzett

Canada635 Posts

July 07 2012 04:33 GMT

#1566

On July 07 2012 13:12 Katina wrote:
First impression I thought he was lying. As I have said I had a scumread on BKE and was suspicous of Hyaach. Then after going back over Hyaach's filter I can see how his DT claim could be legit. So it would make sense that I was framed.

Did reading Hyaach's filter absolve BKE in your eyes?
If yes, how? and if no, how can you think that Hyaach is the real DT since it's impossible for mafia to be made to look like town.

Essentially if Hyaach's filter didn't change your opinion of BKE then your idea that you were framed makes no sense unless your new found support for Hyaach manages to supersede your constant suspicion of BKE which was so strong that you voted for him twice. I find it rather unlikely that you somehow had such a great shift in perspective.

MajuGarzett

Canada635 Posts

July 07 2012 04:41 GMT

#1567

More concisely, what exactly in Hyaach's filter was so convincing that it changed your mind about your strongest scum read?

Katina

United States454 Posts

July 07 2012 04:46 GMT

#1568

I didn't believed what Hyaach was saying about BKE until he claimed today then after reading over Hyaach's filter has caused me to greatly reconsider BKE. What Hyaach says in BKE's defense matches with a green DT check. If Hyaach is a DT then that means that BKE has to be town and I was framed. Yes my read was strong but again that was before today. It caused this great shift because I turned up a red check when I'm town and it made me look at Hyaach and BKE with this information. After looking it over it doesn't seem likely that they are both Mafia. If Hyaach was lying then I would imagine that the real DT would come forward or at least someone would start pushing heavly for Hyaach. So unless that happens then that only leaves the legit DT and me begin framed.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

July 07 2012 04:53 GMT

#1569

But you said you had looked at them already.

You said you were suspicious of both BKE and Hyaach before this.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

July 07 2012 04:53 GMT

#1570

Why would you have to go back and reread them when you just did that and arrived at the conclusion that they're both scum?

MajuGarzett

Canada635 Posts

July 07 2012 04:53 GMT

#1571

On July 07 2012 13:46 Katina wrote:
I didn't believed what Hyaach was saying about BKE until he claimed today then after reading over Hyaach's filter has caused me to greatly reconsider BKE. What Hyaach says in BKE's defense matches with a green DT check. If Hyaach is a DT then that means that BKE has to be town and I was framed. Yes my read was strong but again that was before today. It caused this great shift because I turned up a red check when I'm town and it made me look at Hyaach and BKE with this information. After looking it over it doesn't seem likely that they are both Mafia. If Hyaach was lying then I would imagine that the real DT would come forward or at least someone would start pushing heavly for Hyaach. So unless that happens then that only leaves the legit DT and me begin framed.

Looking at posting times, Hyaach barely says anything in BKE's defence between the time he got a check back and the time he claimed. in fact all he does is ask BKE for his reads and say "BKE is town". Explain what matches to you please.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

July 07 2012 05:01 GMT

#1572

Hyaach doesn't read at all like a DT with checks until recently.

Like, I don't see Hyaach defending BKE like he has a green check on him. Not even guarded...like, he mentions BKE and comes to his defense once or twice, but not convincingly like he has a town read on him even.

Ugh...and BKE as a check N1, I don't get that at all. Like, he wasn't reading suspicious of BKE at all, so checking him doesn't really make sense. Would anyone guess that he checked BKE if Hyaach had, for instance, been shot N2? Or that he checked Katina N2?

I'm just struggling with the whole thing and need more time. :/

Katina

United States454 Posts

July 07 2012 05:05 GMT

#1573

@ VE: I was suspicious of them before Hyaach made his DT claim. After he claimed it caused me to go and take another look with the new information of a DT claim.

@Maju: He hints at his check without revealing too much information or claim what his check turned up on BKE. If he would have claimed then the Mafia would have for sure killed him. A lot of people were going for BKE so it makes sense to check the person that everyone is going after. Such as BKE and me.

Katina

United States454 Posts

July 07 2012 05:07 GMT

#1574

It doesn't have to be big enough to slap you in the face. You got to keep your eye open for the little things sometimes and piece the information together with what you know and your own knowledge.

MajuGarzett

Canada635 Posts

July 07 2012 05:08 GMT

#1575

BKE was never in any real danger day 2 though. He never had more than one vote on him and both people who voted were under at least some suspicion themselves. It would have been better if he was more active but it's possible he just didn't see the point in defending him or didn't want to draw attention to himself by defending someone who wasn't really in danger.

MajuGarzett

Canada635 Posts

July 07 2012 05:08 GMT

#1576

EBWOP: That was in response to VE.

Katina

United States454 Posts

July 07 2012 05:12 GMT

#1577

BKE was drawing enough attention D1 with VE's FOS and than I started going after him. Everyone is under suspicion D1, it was the beginning of a new game. Hyaach couldn't post much in defense without either revealing himself or falling under heavy suspicion.

Katina

United States454 Posts

July 07 2012 05:12 GMT

#1578

Now you tell me!

MajuGarzett

Canada635 Posts

July 07 2012 05:13 GMT

#1579

On July 07 2012 14:05 Katina wrote:
@ VE: I was suspicious of them before Hyaach made his DT claim. After he claimed it caused me to go and take another look with the new information of a DT claim.

@Maju: He hints at his check without revealing too much information or claim what his check turned up on BKE. If he would have claimed then the Mafia would have for sure killed him. A lot of people were going for BKE so it makes sense to check the person that everyone is going after. Such as BKE and me.

The line "BKE is town" was to you so moving? I want to emphasize to town how odd such an event is.

I find your logic extremely flawed Kat.

Katina

United States454 Posts

July 07 2012 05:19 GMT

#1580

I don't know why you are under the impression that a DT has to make their checks in the thread filled with fireworks and sprinklers. That wasn't the only post that Hyaach has made implying that he had a DT check.