EPTI say it every game - my vote is a tool. People react to pressure, and my vote helps to lend that telling pressure. Do you think it's scummy? Because I couldn't help but notice that you left that out of your astute analysis of my votes.
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I say it every game - my vote is a tool. People react to pressure, and my vote helps to lend that telling pressure. Do you think it's scummy? Because I couldn't help but notice that you left that out of your astute analysis of my votes. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On June 06 2012 09:13 VisceraEyes wrote: It's almost as if MrZ is trying too hard to put on an air of "I don't give a shit if I'm scummy"-townie isn't it? Ugh...as I said, I'm going to go home and flow-chart this shite and see if anything jumps out at me. BH can I ask what brought on the change in playstyle? I mean, not that I mind - but I DO kinda miss the fun-loving Paint-slinging BH of old. I understand the bit about you toning down your language, but that doesn't account for the other nuances that made you such a joy to play with...what gives bro? If you check my most recent games you'll notice this was the case there as well. After getting banned from iGrok's game I decided to rethink my overly aggressive gif/mspaint posting style in which I called people shitty dicks. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On June 06 2012 09:09 Blazinghand wrote: I'd like to hear what MrZ and Navillus have to say about each other. Currently their most recent positions are: Which seems like a pretty aggressive case compared to his relatively mild G_403 case. And Which seems like a pretty aggressive case compared to his relatively mild Hyaach case. This looks to me like 2 players who seem interested in making cases at each other without voting each other. Which is scummy. Distancing is a typical scum tactic. Also: This is so bad I'm not even sure it's scummy. Like, whether or not people think someone is scummy is super relevant. If you think ghost is scum, you should make a really good case and convince everyone he's scummy. You can't lynch him unless other people also think he's scummy. It's like the most relevant thing in the world, and it's kinda the reason you make a case along with your vote. I made my post on Ghost before Navillus made his super scummy post, so of course I couldn't vote for Navillus when he hadn't acted scummy yet, unlike Navillus, who voted for Hyaach instead of me in the same post. But you are right, Navillus is more scummy than ghost. ##Vote: Navillus [br] On June 06 2012 09:13 VisceraEyes wrote: It's almost as if MrZ is trying too hard to put on an air of "I don't give a shit if I'm scummy"-townie isn't it? Ugh...as I said, I'm going to go home and flow-chart this shite and see if anything jumps out at me. BH can I ask what brought on the change in playstyle? I mean, not that I mind - but I DO kinda miss the fun-loving Paint-slinging BH of old. I understand the bit about you toning down your language, but that doesn't account for the other nuances that made you such a joy to play with...what gives bro? To be honest, I don't see how I seem scummy, so of course I'm not going to care about it. | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
Because of this I'm particularly aware of how easy it is to start scumhunting on the active people when everyone talking can turn out to be town, I voted Hyaach because his only posts were pretty useless for getting reads (at least for me) and I wanted to make sure he would come back with more, I also didn't want to state that it was a pressure vote as so many people do because then there's obviously no weight behind it. I'm only saying this now because with everyone looking at me Hyaach doesn't need to worry about my vote at all, I also saw no need to vote MrZ (who I admit I do see as more scummy right now if only because I don't have anything to read hyaach) right now, we have a full 24 hours to go, I think MrZ's scummy but want to make sure that even if I think I someone's scum now that as many people talk and give solid opinions as we can get over the rest of the day. Per that I'm keeping my vote on hyaach, he needs to contribute, if he does and I like what I see my next choice would probably be MrZ. On that note Zelblade, Snarfs, and Paindain need to be talking more. @VE and Ghost - What do you think about BH right now? @ Artanis and Shraft - After me (and artanis after ghost) who do you find most suspicious? | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
That being said, I do like his recent aggression towards MrZentor, who I think is scummy. At the moment, I'd be happier lynching MrZentor today over blazinghand. His posting is empty. Can someone point me to the case against navillus? Art said that Shraft posted it, but I can't find it. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
I know my first two posts weren't great, as there wasn't much to discuss at the beginning, but I feel everything else has contained information. Can you show specific posts of mine that seem "empty" instead of posting vague, inaccurate statements? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
More importantly, its the way that he's accusing. It feels like he's trying to make an argument rather than find scum, as all his arguments start out with the mindset that he is scum. Case in point is Mr. Z, where he refers to him being scum on the basis of "he didn't have the balls to"... etc.... That's a really common scum mistake imo. Scum tries so hard to make a case that they end up being aggressive on a personal level, almost condenscending. Townies could act that way, but only if it was part of a larger, more intense debate. ##Vote Blazinghand | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Day 1 Vote Count VisceraEyes (1) furerkip Blazinghand (4) Katina Snarfs ghost_403 Pandain ghost_403 (0) MrZentor (2) Blazinghand VisceraEyes Navillus (2) Artanis[Xp] MrZentor The day ends in 20 hours at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On June 06 2012 10:57 Pandain wrote: Scum tries so hard to make a case that they end up being aggressive on a personal level, almost condenscending. I've heard a lot of complaints about my play throughout the years but "It's weird that blazinghand is so aggressive" is not one I'm familiar with. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I do care about you though. And even if you don't get lynched, I will shoot you. + Show Spoiler + Realize I accidently claimed blue, and my role isn't important enough to justify having medic protection I'm vigilante. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On June 06 2012 11:18 Blazinghand wrote: dude you are aware there are like RBs and shit in this game But that's the beautiful part. I fake claim every game I play. Mafia honestly don't know if I'm telling the truth or not. I may be fucking batshit, or I may be honest. If I'm telling the truth, and they roleblock me, then a.) We find out information about you(why would they protect you) b.) They don't roleblock a medic/detective. If I'm lying, they just roleblocked a regular dude and wasted a power. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
BH, remember this? On June 06 2012 01:30 Pandain wrote: There is too much talk on VE and Furer. To start out, claiming miller was indeed a good move if town. It gives information to us and suggests that as blues we not check him, allowing us to use our powers on other people. VE is almost certainly town. There's a small chance he's a badass serial killer, but for him to have claimed(vulnerable to counterclaims) requires an element of risk which I do not think the SK would use. There is almost certainily not 2 millers in this setup, as having two "false" townies, as well as all the other Alignment-Confusing roles would just decimate the cop's role. Since the risk of being counterclaimed would be so damning, I do not think that VE would have claimed miller if he was mafia/SK. Especially so soon as the day started. Furer is just playing poorly, but his play does not reek of scum. He voted rashly against VE, the very first(and only) vote so far. I do not think mafia would risk bringing so much attention to themselves. He's not only single handedly try to lynch VE, but he's done it with a reckless aura that excludes mafia. I think Mr. Zentor is very suspicious, and should be looked at instead. He's offered very weak arguments, suggesting he does not want to force his opinion onto the town. He's offered vague statements that do not really put himself out there("a bit rash", "would probably", "I think, but we should") which do not prove him being mafia but merely cause me to be watchful. I am also somewhat suspicious of Navillus, but it is more of a general feeling than specific evidence. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
Do you really have no thoughts on MrZ and Navi, which like everyone else seems to have thoughts on? | ||
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