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zelblade
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On June 08 2012 10:14 Blazinghand wrote: Yes clearly my sinister scum plan was to fakeclaim vigi then lie about whether or not I can shoot on the next night Well there have been worse screwups  | ||
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Im reading up filters now. | ||
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Also assuming furekip doesnt come back should we lynch him anyway or try to get him modkilled and risk him ningavoting? | ||
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zelblade
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I dont think that ghost is scum for now. He has been making (what I feel are valid) accusations against both furekip and zentor. I am somewhat certain furekip is scum from the no. of mafia thing, and whilst it is possible, dont think that ghost would push furekip that early and dump some suspision on him when most of the thread felt he was probably town. Of course this read is a little weak due to furekip's alignment being in question in itself but I am quite certain that furekip will flip scum. Regarding hyaach I found his first post coming off as a little off, which is primilarly why I questioned it. Might have been due to the fact the post was somewhat unclear, but I did find him saying that claiming miller (optimal move imo) took "balls" a littler wierd. Its wierd that he tries to push attention onto me + furekip when snarfs calls him out of lurking. I also highly doubt scum would RB him and its actually more likely that hyaach got JK'd. | ||
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zelblade
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On June 08 2012 19:51 Shraft wrote: A ninja vote should not be very dangerous. The only scenario where it can make a difference is if we have five votes on someone, and he comes in and drops the deciding vote. What I mean is us lynching someone else instead and hoping he gets modkilled (for not voting). | ||
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zelblade
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zelblade
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Imagine you are a JK who just jked say scummy player X and there was no NK. You probably suspect that X is scum and u blocked his kill, and this will be amplified especially if X doesnt claim the rb as it would show that he has something to hide. Well claiming the RB makes X look a *little* better. | ||
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zelblade
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The primary problem with this is that I dont think hyaach is town at this point and unless this is LI all over again (very unlikely) they cant be both scum. I am going to sleep, will sleep on it. VE care to grace us with your thoughts? | ||
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zelblade
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Main reason I trusted BH's claim was that I didnt think that he would do it as scum. Why? Assuming that he is scum, he basically played it out such that his team RB'd hyaach, knowing that hyaach could be blamed for the NK given how scummy he is, and use the mafia's factional KP as a "vig shot". However, in this case, since he could not have predicted a roleblock on him, unless you are of course suggesting mafia held their shot (which has never been done on tlmafia btw last I checked bar 3-1 mylo situations), means that if BH was mafia and made this plan he would basically force a 1-1 trade with hyaach since one of them had to be scum in that case. He could have pulled the SK card after mislynching hyaach in this case, but it was very unlikely that it would have worked considering how he didnt exactly look stellar either. Scum probably isnt willing to pull off this sort of trade d2. (I THINK) There are a lot of things regarding BH that seem off to me though, will explain more on that tomorrow. | ||
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zelblade
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Also I wouldn't mind lynching mrz but I want to get this hyaach bh shit settled today. | ||
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Also hyaach who did you try to jail last night and why (yes I know you got rb'd but who did you try to jail) My vote is still on furekip because I haven't decided who is lookin worse. Dont worry going to switch for sure. I am currently not at home and posting on my phone is a pain so I'll post more when I get onto a computer | ||
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zelblade
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At the start of the day I believed that bh wasnt lying. Well until ghost brought up the meta changes that is. I can understand him wanting to change his playstyle.... But i think that he would have said something like "I'm going to try to be less agressive" pretend if that was the case no? A minor point of course. I am unsure about his reaction regarding pandain's claim. I definitely think him playing it off was possible, but I found this post wierd. On June 06 2012 11:18 Blazinghand wrote: dude you are aware there are like RBs and shit in this game Note the this is an instant reaction. Let's say someone claims a role that you have and it is exteremly unlikely there are two of the same role. Wouldt you stop for a little while and give it some thought about how you are going to react to what is very possibly a fakeclaim? I don't see why he would post this. By the way, this is before where bh claims he realized he slipped so.... It's not a cover up. What is really bugging me is this - why in the world would a scum bh claim vig? It makes no sense. He didn't know he was getting roleblocked, and doing so would force a 1-1 trade with hyaach at best. Onto hyaach, he has given me scum vibes at the start of the game. Not going to elaborate but his general posting and luckiness made me feel off about him. Claiming rb as scum makes sense, I already explained why somewhere in my filter, so this is a null tell. His jailkeeper claim is sketchy too. Exteremly convenient. The lack of a town rb claiming (not exsisting or simply not willing to claim?) weakens it quite a bit. I can see ehat he means when he says that he shot down every jk scinerio though. It's definitely possible that was faked. However, I'm actually inclined to believe this claim since my gut says so. His recent posting seem to have a fearless aura which makes me feel that he's town. I'm going to just go with bh I guess. ##unvote ##vote: blazinghand | ||
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zelblade
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Another point against bh is how he voted ghost. It does feel like he is overreacting. | ||
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Furekip and bh should be our next 2 lynches. | ||
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And we are not letting bh getting out of this lynch. ##vote: blazinghand Let's leave palmar alive for a bit and see what he can give us. | ||
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zelblade
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I find t odd mafia hasn't managed to kill anyone. This does explain everything but we need to know wether rb prevents sk's extra night life from going away. Because I highly doubt that there is another jk in play. | ||
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zelblade
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Thinking about it now though ve could have been stacked.. Need to sleep on this | ||
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I sort of need to go right now, deciding by tomorrow. | ||
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