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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On June 14 2012 10:17 Radfield wrote: blech I suck. coast coast coast, lurk lurk lurk, post post post. One day I will have time, but that day is not this day. :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO + Show Spoiler + <3 | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:53 Hesmyrr wrote: My post in page 19 is not pointless. Like I stated I did not have any scum-read (at least one I believed I could push for with logic) except the fact that I did not want to see Palmar lynched. I also still thought VisceraEyes had reasonable chance of flipping scum while I had null read on MZ, so I tried to determine what to do using vote associatons. At that point BrownBear was unreasonably pushing for Palmar lynch and the post I quoted stood out as weak, passive defense of MZ. Thus I considered the possibility of BrownBear-MZ scum team therefore asked BB to flesh out his response to better. Unfortunately he then went afk for rest of the day so I dropped it. Hi, my name is BrownBear and I answered your question. Right here: On June 12 2012 06:16 BrownBear wrote: -snip- Also, Hesmyrr, the reasoning is because MZ has posted a couple times: and This is when people are starting to say "hey there's no resistance to MZ this is bad guys". I know Palmar got the ball rolling on that, but it's kind of out of character for him to not tunnel someone to death. At the time I posted this, the only person who was still supporting the MZ lynch (albeit sarcastically) was MZ - everyone else was either not supporting it or just didn't care. Page 19, not even half a page below you. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Well you have to come back and vote at some point anyways. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
I missed my 1k  | ||
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gonzaw
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
So VE, do you have any thoughts about Rad just leaving us and being lazy as fuck? Like, both Hes and Rad just said they'd disappear....so wtf do we do in the meantime? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On June 14 2012 11:50 gonzaw wrote: <3 So VE, do you have any thoughts about Rad just leaving us and being lazy as fuck? Like, both Hes and Rad just said they'd disappear....so wtf do we do in the meantime? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On June 14 2012 13:23 VisceraEyes wrote: What are your thoughts on Palmar? Okay, good we can always use the time to talk about Palmar.. ...but I'm lazy right now so I'll just paste the notes I made in that reanalysis of the thread a while back >_> Thread Analysis: Page 9: I don't like his post here. He basically discredits me, my case on Grey, and says I was doing something similar on Cephiro in Liar Game. Now that I think about it, him going against MZ doesn't seem so scummy afterwards, although a little bit 'd say he's null for now (but could be SK/scum though). Page 11-14: Was absent, said he was asleep. Page 15: I don't see anything inherently scummy about him. He explains his RNG action, he still goes against MZ but he backs it up with reasoning, and even comments on VE. Hmm, seems slightly town because of it Page 16: Gets active in conversations, get's "enraged" and arrogant. Hmm, slighlty town treats Page 18: Hmm he defends himself okay against BB Page 20: Hmm I see he's active in discussion as well From what I can remember of what I read of him, he actually have good explanations for the things he did and said. He thoroughly explained the reasoning behind his RNG thoughts, thoroughly explained why he was voting MZ, answered questions when asked, and I didn't see him try to shit up the thread when BB went full throttle against him (if he was scum it would be a golden opportunity to do so). Like I said there, I think of him as slightly town, but I can't discard the possibility of being SK. I don't think he's scum though. About his behaviour this day: EHmm, I guess he's being retarded thinking I'm scum and voting me but never mentioning me at all or explaining why he thinks I'm scum...but I guess he's doing it on purpose like a "gambit" or something. Even if he doesn't I don't see why he would do that as scum, since it's just something so obviously anti-town he'd instantly know he'd get flak for it sometime. I find him being so defensive of Radfield and arguing with you odd though. Hmm, I'm not so sure, but if I had to guess he's town (mostly based on process of elimination). Like I said before (I think), until both scum are dead I'd mostly refer to everybody as town and just forget about finding the SK, so yeah Palmar could very well be SK (although I dunno why I think he'd be more pro-town if he actually was SK, kind of how he played Arkham Asylum). | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
I'm not 100% certain he's scum, but he's looking really bad. Anyone with half a brain would see VE is town now, and Radfield has at least three quarters of a brain. I'm not sure I like the hesmyrr lynch. The fact that I forgot about him in my nightpost means that he's not doing anything of value, or I'd remember, and he seems to kinda avoid confrontations, but he was also stupid in a pretty townie way early in the game. I still think gonzaw is scum, I don't think BB is scum anymore, mostly by virtue of almost everyone else looking worse than him. If I was playing resistance I'd be suggesting a team that doesn't include gonzaw/rad/wiggles/chaoser, picking from the other players instead. For safety I'd probably not include hesmyrr either. I'll make the case on gonzaw when I have time today, I was hoping people would just bandwagon me, but alas... | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
gonzaw looks better than everyone else you mentioned leaving behind. Your case is going to be required. Sorry sir. This Radfield wagon could use some help though... | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
Also I don't like the argument "I was just explaining to ace that if I was scummily saving Palmar, the only option was for me and palmar to be scumbuddies" since he apparently would have always pushed for Palmar in that case of situation. However, there could have been any other reason for saving Palmar like trying to look pro-town (as case on Palmar was bad compared to MZ) and contributing. Not only is it WIFOM but it sets up an expectation for Radfield = Scum THEN Palmar = Scum. Remember my previous argument that I had problem with Radfield's retracted attempt at VE wagon because it was entirely possible that he just tried to look like pushing for alternative option, so he looks better when MZ flips green. Radfield could have briefly written why he was initially mistaken when I started pressing him and got the stupid argument over with, but stalled instead, which only makes sense if he actually had no reason for doing so at the time, supporting my theory of him trying to look active without doing anything. That's a theme. ##Vote: Radfield This is my last visit, so me or Radfield (unless someone else messes up in case lynch that guy). Pick wisely. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On June 14 2012 18:56 Palmar wrote: Just because people mentioned it, my stance on Radfield has changed. I'm not 100% certain he's scum, but he's looking really bad. Anyone with half a brain would see VE is town now, and Radfield has at least three quarters of a brain. I'm not sure I like the hesmyrr lynch. The fact that I forgot about him in my nightpost means that he's not doing anything of value, or I'd remember, and he seems to kinda avoid confrontations, but he was also stupid in a pretty townie way early in the game. I still think gonzaw is scum, I don't think BB is scum anymore, mostly by virtue of almost everyone else looking worse than him. If I was playing resistance I'd be suggesting a team that doesn't include gonzaw/rad/wiggles/chaoser, picking from the other players instead. For safety I'd probably not include hesmyrr either. I'll make the case on gonzaw when I have time today, I was hoping people would just bandwagon me, but alas... So you actually think I'm scum?  Well that was unexpected.... ...but whatever tough luck. @Hesmyrr: What about VE? Would you have considered a VE lynch if VE had more votes on him? Damn I guess you just disappeared again so you won't answer. If Radfield doesn't reread the thread, and "take some time" to analyze people soon then I'll get extremely worried. His last 10 posts or something have been him telling us "I'm not really sure I'll take some time and analyze him later", making promises, but then he just drops off with "Yeah I suck I won't make any analysis". I'm still more confident in a Hesmyrr lynch though (but damn I always hate when I get indecisive ).Wiggles and chaoser are still inactive as fuck, great. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Radfield is also pretty null for me at the moment, and im going to need to see some genuine scumhunting out of him. overall though, I can't see his motives as scum right now. Right now there have been quite a lot of cases and accusations against Radfield, and defenses of him as well. What are your thoughts on those? Is Radfield still null to you? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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