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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On June 15 2012 04:32 GreYMisT wrote: and Gonzaw, I read the cases and I think rad looks a bit bad, but not worse than hesmyrr looks to me. Could you explain why "rad looks a bit bad" then? @Palmar: You didn't unvote (it doesn't count...I think). Hmm, I agree that VE is pretty townie and Rad would easily catch it...but he did say that "after rereading VE doesn't look so bad", so I'm not sure if he's being "blatantly and probably maliciously wrong". What I'm concerned about is how he spent all Day 2 making promises and only defending himself but then he imploded and said he wouldn't do shit. CHAOSER WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
*sigh* Like...I think only me, VE and Grey are even active at all and will be until the deadline...that's bad. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On June 15 2012 04:43 gonzaw wrote: Could you explain why "rad looks a bit bad" then? @Palmar: You didn't unvote (it doesn't count...I think). Hmm, I agree that VE is pretty townie and Rad would easily catch it...but he did say that "after rereading VE doesn't look so bad", so I'm not sure if he's being "blatantly and probably maliciously wrong". What I'm concerned about is how he spent all Day 2 making promises and only defending himself but then he imploded and said he wouldn't do shit. CHAOSER WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU? He looks a bit bad because he hasnt done shit. and im actually not going to be active until the deadline, haha. I have to go work out 2 hours before, but should be back an hour prior to the daypost. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
From here on out I intend to prioritize mafia, and play to my abilities. However, I cannot do that if I get lynched today. What I'm asking for is a one day reprieve. I am going to stay up late, get up early, and put the time in that I need to be effective. This is my promise. I have asked for chances before in this game, so if the answer is no, that's fine, and I certainly won't blame anyone but myself for getting lynched. I'm also not trying to make you think I am town via this post, nor am I trying to draw sympathy. I may be scum, I may be serial killer, but I have certainly not been playing to the best of my abilities. I'm asking for that chance. If you think I am scum tomorrow, lynch the shit out of me. On June 15 2012 04:38 Palmar wrote: yeah i wont be able to get this together today. voting radfield for being blatantly and probably maliciously wrong about visceraeyes. For what it's worth, I don't actually think VE is scum anymore. Due both to filtering him, and based on your read. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
##Unvote: Radfield ##Vote: Mr.Wiggles Wiggles performance in this game has been even worse than Radfield's...the difference is that I have a hard time reading Wiggles anyway both based on the infrequency of his posts regardless of alignment, and the tone/logic employed in his posts regardless of alignment. Radfield is generally more active as town, hence my scum read on him. Because his play has been so atrocious, if he's able to change it up and actually do some shit, I'd like to give him that chance. Wiggles hasn't done shit this game except put down placeholder votes and make a half-assed accusation of someone each time he graces us with his presence. I'm ready to kill the Wiggle man. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On June 15 2012 05:32 gonzaw wrote: Stop promising and get to it. I'm workin on it. I don't think you appreciate how much time I put into a game to play well. At any rate, I'm reading your filter right now! | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
I think both are scumbuddies....but I'm more certain Hesmyrr is scum and if he does indeed flip scum it'd make me more certain Wiggles is scum by their interactions. Wiggles acted similarly (wishy-washy and stuff) in Liar Game and was town there, hence why I'm a little bit more hesitant to lynch him instead of Hesmyrr. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Also Wiggles towntold Gonzaw, back up off him. I'll leave him alive today based on what I've seen. Focus on Hes. What changed your mind? (I guess you meant you thought Wiggles is town...I don't really get what "towntold" means  ) | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
##Vote: Hesmyrr I mixed up games yesterday when I said that, my bad.  I was having a serious problem keeping games straight when I was running around like a crazy person at work. I'm all good now.I think Wiggles is a good lynch, but honestly I think you're case on Hes is better. I filtered Wiggles and again I'm having a hard time coming to a conclusion. I'd like to see some more from him (although whether I can EXPECT it or not is up for debate.) ##Unvote: MrWiggles ##Vote: Hesmyrr | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
Vote's so nice, I had to do it twice.  | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On June 15 2012 06:44 VisceraEyes wrote: EBWOP Vote's so nice, I had to do it twice. I was just about to make fun of you for that. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I think that despite those posts, his play has been overarchingly pro-town oriented. He was the prime player moving discussion Day 1, and was obviously pushing people for reads(perhaps even too much). He has also been putting in a huge amount of effort, which while not automatically making him town, does tilt the scales. I like his reasoning and change of heart on brownbear, and I like his reasoning on Hesmyrr(though I'm not sure if I totally agree with it yet). I also like that even though he was pushing Greymist, he backed off him at the appropriate time on Day 1. I'd be surprised if he flips scum. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
1) His first three paragraphs reveal he feels wish-washy about MZ and I found it suspect how he was being conservative with his vote even at that situation, not voting for his current biggest scum-read. This is an accusation leveled at me Day 1, making the case that I'm holding back my vote so I can be 'swayed' into lynching somewhat. Yet immediately after I press him, Hesmyrr uses the same logic as his defense: I was still divided on whether to vote for VisceraEyes or MZ so wanted to see if there was going to be more materials/clues, like how you just behaved. Yet in the first instance he's using as reasoning for finding me suspicious. In the second instance he's using it as a defense. 2) His non-push of VE on Day 1, and complete ambivalence towards the lynch. Hesymrr is obviously around Day 1, yet does nothing to contribute to the lynch until I press him. Even once that happens, he makes no attempt to find the best lynch(despite apparently being unsure of whom to lynch). 3)Pushes Greymist as scum, and a reason for not voting MZ(because Greymist was voting MZ), yet never mentions Greymist again. He also hasn't mentioned VE again, and I have no idea if he still finds either of those players scummy. 4) Other than his accusation on me, Almost all of Hesymrr posts are to do with himself, and explaining things that have happened in the thread. He's not pushing other players for reads, he not pushing his scum reads, he's not really trying to get anyone lynched. It feels like he's just trying to tick the boxes. Made an accusation, Tick. Posted about this, Tick. Defended myself, Tick. ##Vote: Hesmyrr | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On June 14 2012 05:10 VisceraEyes wrote: So you don't have any comment on the action itself? Trying to get someone lynched...by doing nothing? I mean, we can assume it's some sort of ploy or ruse or whatever to gauge his reaction...but we just don't know do we? The only thing I see even close to reasoning in Palmar's filter regarding gonzaw was a slightly leading question asking about Rad and Grey and him being butthurt about being accused of not playing. Why is this not something worth commenting on Wiggles? It wasn't worth commenting on because it wasn't completed. When Palmar does stuff, sometimes it's for different purposes than it just appears to be on the surface. When he makes that post on Gonzaw, I have no clue if he actually thinks Gonzaw is scum, or he just wants to pressure him for a reaction, or he wants to see if someone else reacts, or whatever. Like I said, it didn't give me any reason to vote gonzaw and goes against my own read. Besides that, it's palmar doing palmar stuff. I normally ignore that stuff until I think he's scum for it, or it becomes something actual i.e. people actually voting, an actual analysis, a follow-up post, etc. I'm switching my vote to Hesmyrr. No one is commenting on my chaoser case besides gonzaw, and chaoser himself has disappeared. I don't like that any pressure on him is gone because he just went inactive for a day cycle. We should lynch him Day 3. Hesmyrr is my second candidate after chaoser, so my vote is going there. I don't feel like his defense or follow up post really did anything to sway my mind about my read. Oh how I wish we had vigs... If the SK wants to be nice, he should shoot chaoser tonight. You'll hit scum, which will be good for you. ##Unvote: Chaoser ##Vote: Hesmyrr | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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