EPTNewbie Mini XV - Page 18
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1833 Posts
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Vivax
22184 Posts
I will keep scumhunting and ignore accusations against me day 2 simply because I might not be able to defend myself in the light of this event and I don't want to waste energy on it. My suspects against Ange777 were genuine. Her reads were without doubt better, and i got fooled by Sukis' postings. However, mafia stepping out to defend someone who has a majority against him isn't mafia. That's usually where the bussing starts. Feel free to call me a bloody noob. But think twice before thinking I'm mafia. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1833 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
I'll be rereading everything and post tomorrow just saying hello for now! | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1833 Posts
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
This gives us some information on the setup. We either have both a cop and a medic, or neither. With the roleblocker dead, it opens up the possibility for our cop (if we have one) to come out with guaranteed medic protection. I'm not so sure that this is a good idea so early though. I'll think on it. Anyway, I'm just gonna take a break and then reread the thread, especially all that last-minute chaos. I'll probably post again before I go to sleep in about 6 hours. Oh and welcome shiaopi  | ||
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Vivax
22184 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340298¤tpage=8#155 I was part of his scum list after suspecting Eishi_Ki, he also deflected more of my attention from him in this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340298¤tpage=9#173 The irony, while being so wrong with Ange777, I might have been right on Eishi_Ki. He'll have a bad surprise when waking up in his 'schedule' hehe. | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Great, now I am being targeted in TL Mafia LV as well ....  Hope you guys don't mind if I am a bit more active in that game near its deadlines. | ||
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Unforgiven_ve
Venezuela1232 Posts
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Vivax
22184 Posts
Anyway, in light of the events I'll drop the FoS bomb.You might have noticed I like direct accusations. FoS: Eishi_Ki , then Miltonkram. Stop suspecting heist, he was the first to defend Ange777 against my accusations and kept that stance throughout this whole last phase. He would have wanted her to get lynched if he was mafia. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On June 02 2012 07:38 Unforgiven_ve wrote: Lolz, I rule, bunch of noobs I think you must be town unless you planned a really risky bussing strategy with Suki for this game. That's still the only (although significant) thing going for you. Can you tell us who are your other Mafia reads? What do you think of Vivax, Heist, s0Lstice and me for being opposed to the lynch? What about Ange777? Are you still suspicious/neutral towards her? I don't think Vivax is Mafia, although I was wrong about Suki too. He has put his own credibility on the line so many times, even brazenly defending Suki while it seemed inevitable he would be lynched. I'm not so sure about Heist. You haven't done much in the game so far, except when Suki had pressure on him. On the other hand, you were very active in the lynch discussion and focused on ensuring the lynch. I want to see you push an original case sooner rather than later. Not much to say about s0Lstice, he has been active and helpful after the suboptimal start. Not likely Mafia. All in all, I'm most concerned about Heist among us who opposed lynching Suki. But I'm also concerned about those who stayed out of the spotlight as we went closer to the deadline, such as Eishi_Ki, Miltonkram, sciberbia and Superouman. I want to hear your explanations for avoiding (or mostly avoiding) the most important event in the game so far, and I want some substance to make up for it. I'm really tired right now and I'm going to sleep. I feel confident there's enough material to find the remaining Mafia already, so I'll have to read a lot of filters when I get back. Ange777, you're pushing for Vivax, and although you were already right about Suki, I'm not convinced about Vivax at the moment. I'll have to read through his filter next to search for the signs you're seeing. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1833 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On June 02 2012 04:37 Ange777 wrote: Okay ... seems like I have to step back from a Unforgiven defense ... What are you implying here? That if I flipped red you would be even more convinced that Suki is scum? If you truly think both of us scum there would be no way Suki wants to vote for me. He could easily stick to his vote on you and claim that he is still 100% convinced of you being mafia. High chance for other people to vote for me anyway, so why would he have to vote for me, make himself suspicious of vote switching and bandwaggoning? Furthermore, losing a scum buddy on day 1 would be awful for him. He would indeed prefer a NL instead of my lynch and therefore NOT vote for me! You just made yourself highly suspicious! + Show Spoiler + On June 02 2012 05:37 heist wrote: You are literally going after everyone who has found you suspicious. And these are all pretty weak claims. You start going off on Ange77 for "siding with you too strongly"? I think you are taking bandwaggoning a bit too far. She had her own analysis. You somehow tie together both suki and ange77 as mafia scum? What??? You explicitly state that you are going to disregard Solstice and don't bother to defend yourself. I am not completely convinced about Suki and the main accusation right now seems to refer to the switch vote to Ange77. We decided we wanted a day 1 lynch. We needed a majority. Perhaps he wanted to lay down his vote incase he missed the deadline. Bandwaggoning I find is useless accusation in and of itself. In a complete body of work it can greatly support a claim. But we need this majority for a lynch and I can completely see him changing his vote with Unforgiven's case rapidly losing steam. My vote is currently useless. I will be changing to Unforgiven_ve. His recent behavior is really undermining my previous judgment. ##Unvote ##Vote: Unforgiven_ve So no, I don't think I'll be backing off him, thanks though. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1833 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1833 Posts
On June 02 2012 07:38 Unforgiven_ve wrote: Lolz, I rule, bunch of noobs This is just rude. Cut it out. It takes 7 votes to lynch someone, and you spent the time before the lynch flopping around like a fish out of water, reduced to pleading for votes. It's not our fault you drew so much suspicion for playing like shit. | ||
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Miltonkram
United States310 Posts
Just because we lynched and hit red does not mean that Unforgiven is clear of suspicion. Let's not forget that his original case against suki was not very good. Sciberbia was the actual driving force behind it. It could have been a weak "bus" attempt that Unforgiven hoped would gain him town cred. His play close to deadline was also appalling. My original read on him was bad/confusing town but he's getting closer and closer to scum territory. I'm off to work. Thanks for lifting my spirits with that lynch guys! | ||
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Unforgiven_ve
Venezuela1232 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On June 02 2012 07:08 Ange777 wrote: In the beginning I just thought Unforgiven's play to be awful (no offense!). non taken ;D... Ok, to the people who says i could be mafia and just pushed the case on suki as mafia strategy...STOP THIS...remember this is a extended mayority lynch, the more you confuse people the harder it gets to reach mayority, now you see why i said "PLAY SMART" ?? its even more important in this kind of game... check my last posts, besides me, who was REALLY PUSHING on suki? answer: nobody. | ||
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Unforgiven_ve
Venezuela1232 Posts
On June 02 2012 08:32 s0Lstice wrote: This is just rude. Cut it out. It takes 7 votes to lynch someone, and you spent the time before the lynch flopping around like a fish out of water, reduced to pleading for votes. It's not our fault you drew so much suspicion for playing like shit. lol, just saw this, sorry ... its just what you experts refer as "metagame"? | ||
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