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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 21 2012 21:06 GMT
#201
Could we get a vote count?
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 21 2012 21:06 GMT
#202
Just a thought - it doesn't matter to me, I was just throwing that out there. It shouldn't change how people scumhunt in the least...at least, it won't change how I scumhunt anyway.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 21 2012 21:07 GMT
#203
VE thats an interesting idea, but can that actually happen in normal games?
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 21 2012 21:14 GMT
#204
On May 22 2012 06:03 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: Mattchew

I just can't bear it.

On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote:
Next ##Unvote
##Vote: Mattchew


As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it.

"The Argivian University taught me two things: always look to the past, and never dismiss what appears useless." —Hanna, Weatherlight navigator
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 21:39:28
May 21 2012 21:27 GMT
#205
On May 22 2012 06:06 Nova_Terra wrote:
Could we get a vote count?

Was going to wait to midnight but okay. Vote count with 24 hours and 30 minutes to go:
Navillus (0): froggynoddy
Wherebugsgo (0): Navillus
VisceraEyes (0): Nova_Terra, Zealos
Mattchew (0): Acrofales
Mouldy Jeb (1): Mattchew
Froggynoddy (1): Nova_Terra
Katina (1): froggynoddy
Acrofales Marvellosity (1): EchelonTee, Zealos
Nova_Terra (2): VisceraEyes, wherebugsgo
Mattchew (2): Navillus, marvellosity
Not voted yet (7): Tunkeg, Acid~, Zealos, HiroPro, Mouldy Jeb, Katina, zelblade


If I missed anything, please let me know.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 21 2012 21:30 GMT
#206
Holy moly I have two votes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 21 2012 21:34 GMT
#207
Not anymore you dont, cheating scumgoblin player!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 21 2012 21:36 GMT
#208
You're right, I don't, Zealos unvoted me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 21 2012 21:40 GMT
#209
Alright, it should be fixed now.
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 21 2012 21:42 GMT
#210
Thanks a bunch
sleep now back tomorrow
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Mouldy Jeb
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom37 Posts
May 21 2012 22:10 GMT
#211
mattchew, just because im considering that my vote may have been based on an ill judgement doesn't mean im scum just means ill have to wait till tomorrow to consolidate all the evidence from each persons posts to conjure up a decision on who to vote for.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 21 2012 22:25 GMT
#212
On May 22 2012 05:52 froggynoddy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 22 2012 05:29 Tunkeg wrote:
Reads d1 of Day1

Acrofalis/Marvellosity:
Leaning town based on Acrofalis aggression while he was in game. He tried to get this game going, and tried to apply some pressure.

EchelonTee:
Leaning town. He went into a fight with Acrofalis from the get go, and haven't been afraid to stick his head out.

Zealos
Get some scumvibes off him. He started the game by voting VE as number two, without a good reason. He claims it to be a joke later (which it might be). He then proceeds to vote Acrofales based on ET's case, and because of meta, basicly sheeping ET. The rest of his filter seems very empty, even though he got more post than most in this game. Some townpoints for actually bother to answer questions.

Mattchew
He might be one of those I called out for not posting earlier, that is a scum. I don't know what he is trying to do, but if his postingstyle continues this way he will be disruptive townie at best, and sabotaging scum at worst. Leaning scum for now.

Nova_Terra
Leaning scum. He was active at the start, but unlike Acrofalis his attempts at pushing seems more forced, and with no real weight behind it. His whole postingstyle seems very non-commital and gives me scumvibes.

Also Navillus need to get in the thread and do some more. His vote on WBG is the only thing he have done. And it was done without much reasoning, and in my opinion strange reasoning.


PS: I know you guys don't like list. But I want to do lists so bare with me.

PS 2: This is not an analysis post. It is a read post. When I am ready to put my vote down on someone I will try to make a good case/analysis on them. Exception is if there is a great case on them that I agree with, then I will be open about sheeping it, and probably just add some of my own reasoning to it.



This list... serves no purpose other than making you look active. Town reads are worse than useless day 1 as 1. they are even weaker than day 1 scumreads and 2. points to scum who to kill to cause confusion.

EDIT: There was more but WBG and Navillus covered it whilst I was writing

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote:
Okaaay so my WBG vote was a joke, I do not actually think it's a good idea to lynch one of our 2 vets on that basis alone and I am not really of the opinion that advice is an automatic scum-tell, it'd be nice to have a little benefit of the doubt on me not being an idiot.

Next ##Unvote
##Vote: Mattchew


As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it.

On N_T yes VE and WBG I'd say he's using pretty bad method of scumhunting/analysis and his vote is for a dumb reason, but that doesn't make him scum and aside from clear-cut examples of someone being useless or disruptive (such as restricting their posts to text from a card game) it's a bad idea to lynch someone for bad play, in my experience it's rarely a scumtell and depending on how they're playing badly it can be more of a town tell.

Tunkeg you asked a bunch of questions earlier, most of them were ignored, was there any point to them? Why don't you care that people didn't answer you/why aren't you following up? Also why post that list, if you have scum reads why aren't you just pressuring them instead of telling them, and how does telling everyone your town-reads do anything but let scum know who you think is townie and so light them up as targets?

Holy spam batman! NT scum or town please stop with multiple one or two line posts in a row, it's distracting and makes the thread harder to read through, consolidate.


How is voting for Mattchew due to his posting style (which you consider to be *Bad*) different to voting N_T based on bad play?

I don't necessarily disagree with you I just think you're being a little inconsistent. Shoot I forgot to unvote as promised:

##Unvote
##Vote Katina


Inactive players kill town. Katina, my vote stays on you until you make an appearance.


I made an apperance earlier today. Do you not read over the thread my dear?

On May 22 2012 03:27 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 21 2012 21:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Hey VE since you seem to want to ignore my challenge who do you wanna kill


Hey Nova, since you seem to want to ignore my question to you (something that's actually USEFUL to this game, unlike your "challenge"), how about you actually answer it instead of trying to distract town with meaningless drivel? I'll even repost it for your convenience.

On May 21 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 21 2012 05:59 Nova_Terra wrote:
On May 21 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Whether or not advice is good has nothing to do with the alignment of a player, just the same as making a plan, regardless of how good it is, is generally not indicative of alignment.

If the advice makes sense, follow it. If not, don't. The question of "is this guy scum" has nothing to do with that.

I never said that it has anything to do with indicacating the alignment of the player,i said that general advice seems to be contributing but isnt really. and that its just as likely mister helpful is scum, etc.


Your style has so far been laced with an air of giving advice to the other players - in what way is Bugs' post giving advice any different from, say, you warning that "players trying to give advice could be scum"?

ooh i forgot about that
Its different because its not all i've done
and because i know im town
and its not really different itself, but i was aware of the hypocrisy before i made teh post


I would to bring attention to this lovely post. N_T might be the BM version 2! I say this because of his spam, oneliners, and the fact he seems to be refreshing the thread every 5 minutes. When BM is mafia he always over emphasizes that he is confirmed town.

Such things are silly to say and provide no help to the town I will be setting my vote.

##Vote Nove_Terra

Based on his fliter, he seems to more interesting in proving his innocence then trying to find the Mafia.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 21 2012 22:27 GMT
#213
Guys. Look at Nova's filter in LIV where he was also town (and where I won on your behalf, Katina dearest). Very similar. Not convinced by his lynch at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
May 21 2012 22:31 GMT
#214
Answers
I will devide it into three post because it became such a wall of text.

If I have missed any questions make me aware of it and I will answer.

On May 22 2012 00:31 HiroPro wrote:
There are two things that make me suspicious of Tunkeg.


The first is the timing of Tunkeg's "I'm going to change it up" post. Either town or scum are capable of saying that they want to change their playstyle. If you look at this game, ET also says that he wants to change his play. But he does this BEFORE roles are out.



The second is the way that Tunkeg responds to Acrofales's post against him: HE DOESN'T RESPOND.

Show nested quote +

You don't like my opening post, and thats ok. ET is comming to my defense, and are voting for you. What is your take on this situation? Do you think ET have any motives for defending me, and if so what are they?


All he does is go "lolol someone coming to my defense" and try to shift attention onto ET "Do you think ET have any motives for defending me".



@marvel


Yea, Navilius's tone is very apologetic and wishywashy. The vote is dumb also.


What do you think of Tunkeg?


HiroPro you say you want me to respond to your case on me. But I don't see what you want me to answer. Your case is there for everyone to see, and there is nothing for me to write about it. Its your opinion about my play, and I am fine with that. As I said in my opening post I won't spend any time defending myself. My post will speak forthemselves.

If you want me to respond to something specify what you want me to answer, and post questions where you want me to answer and not rethorical questions as some have posted.


Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
May 21 2012 22:31 GMT
#215
On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote:
Okaaay so my WBG vote was a joke, I do not actually think it's a good idea to lynch one of our 2 vets on that basis alone and I am not really of the opinion that advice is an automatic scum-tell, it'd be nice to have a little benefit of the doubt on me not being an idiot.

Next ##Unvote
##Vote: Mattchew


As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it.

On N_T yes VE and WBG I'd say he's using pretty bad method of scumhunting/analysis and his vote is for a dumb reason, but that doesn't make him scum and aside from clear-cut examples of someone being useless or disruptive (such as restricting their posts to text from a card game) it's a bad idea to lynch someone for bad play, in my experience it's rarely a scumtell and depending on how they're playing badly it can be more of a town tell.

Tunkeg you asked a bunch of questions earlier, most of them were ignored, was there any point to them? Why don't you care that people didn't answer you/why aren't you following up? Also why post that list, if you have scum reads why aren't you just pressuring them instead of telling them, and how does telling everyone your town-reads do anything but let scum know who you think is townie and so light them up as targets?

Holy spam batman! NT scum or town please stop with multiple one or two line posts in a row, it's distracting and makes the thread harder to read through, consolidate.


The questions I have asked have for the most part been answered, either directly or indirectly.
VE answered me directly. WBG answered indirectly when he said he wanted to see NT killed. Acrofalis left the game before he had answered. NT answered directly. Zealos answered me directly. ET is the only one who haven't answered. This might be because he didn't notice it, or because he don't want to. So the answer to the secound part of your question is that I for the most have gotten answers. I have registered what they answered and if they answered for later use.

I post that list because I want to be open with my reads. I know the general consensus of TL Mafia is that you shouldn't post read lists, I don't necessarily agree. I think a list like mine makes it easier for you to hold me accountable for my reads. You know where I stand, and you can easily reference it if you are making a case on me. Telling my townreads doesn't make a difference to scum, if I see someone as town, they probably do so even more. If they don't they probably won't bother with them anyways. Sure if everyone in the game posts reads like this, it will be easy for scum to pick out the one town sees as most townie and night kill them, but in return they would have to post their own reads giving them less wiggleroom. So I will continue posting my reads like this.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
May 21 2012 22:31 GMT
#216
On May 22 2012 05:37 Nova_Terra wrote:
where the frick is katina
Tunkeg what about my play do you find noncommittal?


Its a general feel I have about your play. You start off with a "pressure" vote on VE, without any pressure to it (reasoning: I hear VE's post are bitch to deal with, or so I hear). You post a some about WBG's first post, warning us. You tell the thread I am scum for my first post, without any real follow up. No pressure, no vote, just throwing you opinion out there. You vote froggy for mention that your meta is bored as townie and hyper as scum. You have posted alot of one-liners (read: short posts), and you are basicly all over the place, with alot of post, but little substance. I think your play is in all very noncommital.

For the rest of the questions you have thrown at me I see them as rethorical, and not something you want me to answer.

EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
May 21 2012 22:39 GMT
#217
this game is making very little sense to me.

wbg or VE or whoever; do any of you guys recognize mouldy jeb? I doubt he's a noob, but I could be wrong.

why would anyone want to kill Mattchew for posting MTG flavor text? That reminds me of when people wanted to kill Foolishness for his limericks. There's nothing inherently scummy about it unless he is really unclear and stuff

I just skimmed the game but I need to re-read it.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 21 2012 22:59 GMT
#218
Ah yes, ET, I must have missed how posts like these are shining beacons of clarity

On May 22 2012 06:14 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 06:03 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: Mattchew

I just can't bear it.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote:
Next ##Unvote
##Vote: Mattchew


As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it.

"The Argivian University taught me two things: always look to the past, and never dismiss what appears useless." —Hanna, Weatherlight navigator

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mouldy Jeb
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom37 Posts
May 21 2012 22:59 GMT
#219
your doubts deceive you my friend i am indeed a noob but i never said i was voting for mattchew lol i mean i was simply stating that my indecision doesn't substantiate a reason for me to be voted for.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 21 2012 23:03 GMT
#220
pretty sure this guy's a smurf but I have no clue who it would be. At any rate I don't think we should concern ourselves with him too much out of the ordinary; treat him like anyone else. If he does things that further a scum agenda, we try to kill him.

Katina how sure are you of Nova being scum?
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