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@Mordanis:
I agree my post didn't contribute much to the discussion. My main point of the post was just to cast my vote. Miltonkram asked for everyone's thoughts on his accusation of shiaopi, so I gave mine. My reasons for accusing Miltonkram have already been stated: see my first post about him, and golden's later post.
I feel obliged to explain myself to s0lstice, but I don't think it's that relevant to today's lynch so I'll spoiler it:
+ Show Spoiler +
Perhaps I took his post the wrong way, but the lines such as
"And I don't see anyone you are considering lynching in your post.",
"If you'd clarify I'd love to comment on them as well.", and
"One final thing: I think the whole passive-aggressive thing needs to end. I understand that you don't want to be lynched (neither do I), but just being angry at one person for the sake of being angry doesn't help anything."
seemed overly aggressive towards me, considering that my post was pretty level-headed. In retrospect, I regret responding to his accusation of hegeo at all, because it was early in the day and I wasn't even questioned for comment. I just instinctively try to discuss anything and everything as much as possible because I think hearing other people's thoughts can only help town. But, I realize that it clutters up the thread and I'll make an effort to post less in future.
Thanks for giving your opinions on lynch candidates, s0lstice. Similar posts from everyone else would help a lot.
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Hour and a half to the deadline. We really need to decide on a target. I've been accumulating a list of everyone's opinion on whether to lynch shiaopi, milton, or hegeo, and it looks something like this:
sciberbia: milton, hegeo, then shiaopi
golden: milton, hegeo, then shiaopi
shiaopi: milton, then hegeo, not shiaopi
mordanis: hegeo, then milton/shiaopi
release: hegeo, then milton, then shiaopi
solstice: shioapi, hegeo, then milton
milton: shioapi
hegeo: shioapi, then milton
mufaa: ............
Feel free to correct me if I've misrepresented your views.
I propose that shioapi is out of the running. He is primarily accused by the two other lynch candidates, as well as solstice. He is viewed as least scummy of the three by me, golden, mordanis, and release
On the other hand, milton has 3 votes, and release said he would also be quite interested in voting for him. He is about the same as shiaopi in mordanis's eyes.
Hegeo is the primary target of release and mordanis, and is also considered moderately suspicious by all the people we aren't considering lynching.
Can we agree to focus on milton vs hegeo?
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I'm usually very hesitant to try to pin two people together especially on day 1, but I feel compelled to share my accumulating evidence for milton and hegeo both being mafia:
1) the coincidence debacle with hegeo was following milton's first post
2) after my initial post accusing milton, hegeo made a random, long post about release, perhaps trying to distract our attention from milton. He followed this up with an accusation against shiaopi, and milton has recently been attacking shiaopi as well
3) hegeo gave a half-defense of milton when prompted
4) milton has remarkably said nothing at all about hegeo
I know there is no solid evidence here, but I'm becoming increasingly inclined to agree with Release that they are both mafia. I'd be happy with lynching either. But we ABSOLUTELY MUST lynch somebody. There's an hour left so please start voting people!
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@Miltonkram
@hegeo
I think we are pretty much decided on lynching one of you. If either of you are town, it only makes sense to vote for the other. I ask that you do so now.
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If hegeo doesn't post at all before the deadline or even change his vote from Mufaa, I would consider that extremely scummy and would be willing to change my vote to him.
@Miltonkram
Please vote on hegeo. It's between him and you. Unless you have a very strong town-read on hegio (don't know why you would), the correct town move is to vote for him. The sooner the better.
@s0sltice
Could you please put a vote on hegeo or milton? I'm beginning to get a bit worried and I'd just feel better seeing more votes on these players. Thanks.
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I am changing my vote to hegeo as well on the assumption that he does not post by the deadline. If he defends himself by the deadline, I would consider switching back to milton.
##Vote: Hegeo
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damn. not sure if i have to unvote milton first but i'll do it anyway
EBWOP:
##unVote: Milton
##Vote: Hegeo
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Is this the correct vote count?
milton(2): shiaopi, golden
hegeo(5): release, mordanis, milton, sciberbia, solstice
mufaa(1): hegeo
mufaa has still not voted
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@Golden
@Shiaopi
Could you guys vote for hegeo? Just want to make sure nobody has a sudden change of heart resulting in a no lynch. Thanks.
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On May 24 2012 08:05 ShiaoPi wrote:
So with all the switches we are now at
Milton: Me
Hegeo: Release, Mordanis, sciberbia, solstice, milton
Mufaa: hegeo
Not-voting: Golden, Mufaa
I do admit Hegeo's absence is highly suspicious although it may be timezonerelated it is 1:00AM right now in CEST. But he had plenty of time beforehand.
He did say that he'd probably have to leave around 6PM EST each day, but leaving a vote on mufaa for which we all agreed not to vote, as well not showing up at the deadline is pretty sketchy. Could you please vote for him?
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so.... I still don't see why you can't vote on hegeo? Unless you think no-lynch is better than lynching hegio, it can in no way hurt to vote for him.
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You said that you think he might be scum, and that lynch is better than no lynch. Just because you're not 100% sure is no reason not to vote for him. Nobody is 100% sure. I don't think anyone will think any less of you if you vote for him
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Dude worst timing ever. You realize the deadline is in 5 minutes? This is either just bizarre townie play or a really really desperate mafia move. Seeing as I can't even read your post in the next 4 minutes, there is no way we are lynching Release or Mordanis.
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I don't see anyone else changing their vote, so I think we are still lynching hegio? His last post confuses me so much. Why would he go through all that effort if he is mafia and knows he is going to be lynched anyway? But here we have WIFOM - perhaps he just wants us to panic at the last minute and not lynch him for this reason. I think at this point we are just lynching him and worrying about his post after we see his flip. If anyone objects to this course of action, you had better speak fast.
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Well it's 7:30 so we lynched him. Really hope he's mafia. Can we please avoid such a deadline fiasco in future? I'm looking at Golden and Release who still aren't here.
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thanks for playing hegeo.
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well this seriously sucks. I might be a bit inactive during this night phase. My last exam is tomorrow morning. I'm not gonna do any major analysis or posting for a little while.
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@skware
Welcome to the game 
@Release
I don't think my actions require a lot of explaining. If you read over the posts, you'll see I was working hard to promote objectives of the town: decide who we think as a group is the most scummy and lynch them. I focused the conversation on hegeo and milton, the 2 most likely lynch candidates. If hegeo had made his giant post 15 minutes earlier, I probably would have pushed milton, but with 5 minutes left? I don't see how you can hold it against me for helping to organize a lynch on someone who we all (especially you) thought was suspicious.
@Release
@Golden
I didn't appreciate that you guys were unavailable around the deadline. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you had important things to do, but a townie would have strong interest to make sure we get a good lynch. Being absent during voting is more consistent with mafia objectives: not caring who gets lynch as long as its not mafia. And if its a no-lynch, even better. Does anyone else see this as suspicious?
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@Release
I guess the question is: if somebody had jumped off the bandwagon, does that help town? Obviously it does if he is blue, but we of course didn't know that at the time. I don't think the answer is so clear-cut. If you disagree, that's fine. I'm just explaining what I was thinking at the time. It was a little hectic and I had one clear goal in mind: get a lynch on hegeo/milton by 7:30.
I still fail to see how my actions implicate me as mafia. Will you please either rescind your accusation against me or tell me what mafia motive you think I have for getting a 6th vote on hegeo?
@skware
Are you talking to me or release? I don't see where either of us claimed that lynching a blue is better than no-lynch. Please explain.
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