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On May 31 2012 03:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 03:05 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not going to vote gambit unless he refuses to give me the name of his char and I'd say a lynch on that guy is like flipping a coin. Why? Just saying that you don't like the lynch doesn't help us determine if the lynch is actually bad. If you don't want to see him lynched, you'll have to explain why.
I want to see him answer my question first. I don't want to answer that one for him for the ever so slight chance that I may actually be wrong about him
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Can add another paragraph to my tinfoil hat musings about Toad and Gambit.
Toad's got a town read on him, wants the name of his role. Again, potentially hunting the name of a role for a third party win condition, or because he thinks Gambit is the other mason?
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I'm a mason, that rules out third party for christs sake. What are you blabbering about
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Right now I'm trying to determine who I think is scummiest/want to lynch from kitaman/supersoft/zealos/gambit.
How did you come to decide it should be gambit from that list?
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On May 31 2012 03:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm a mason, that rules out third party for christs sake. What are you blabbering about
As far as I can tell, here's ALL we have on roles/alignments for sure.
On May 10 2012 01:40 GreYMisT wrote:
The following list represents all possible roles in the game. Not all of these roles will be in the game, but all roles in the game will either be on this list, or be variations of roles on this list.
On May 24 2012 08:20 GreYMisT wrote:
A list of all possible roles has been added to the OP. These roles and their variations are the only ones that will be in the game, but not all may appear.
Your claim was so odd that it's a major reason you didn't get the mayoral vote. You didn't get shot overnight, maybe because of the threat of protection on you. Your play still feels odd today, you're very clearly holding some information back in a way that feels like you're playing for a shorter term objective than eliminating scum.
We have never received a guarantee that masons are all town, the end (yes? Someone correct me quick if I'm horribly wrong). What we HAVE been told is that "variations" are possible, and a scum or third-party mason certainly sounds to me like a variation on mason.
My vote's going on you for now, mainly because of how I don't get the sense that your win condition aligns with town's.
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Screw this
Yes I think gambit is a mason.
Yes that's the reason I don't want to lynch him.
Yes it's because of something he has said and if you check my post earlier you quote (the one where I mentioned a 2nd mason for the first time) you will see that gambit posted only shortly before that as well.
I could be wrong about the mason tell however I think I'm right right now, that's why I want the name of his char before lynching him.
You do realize that you just made me claim another thing because of those retarded questions although I told people I don't want to talk about? I have a reason I don't want to talk about it and if I am right I just outed a blue. Thanks.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On May 31 2012 03:23 austinmcc wrote:
We have never received a guarantee that masons are all town, the end (yes? Someone correct me quick if I'm horribly wrong). What we HAVE been told is that "variations" are possible, and a scum or third-party mason certainly sounds to me like a variation on mason.
On May 10 2012 01:40 GreYMisT wrote:
Mason
May communicate with another player in the game via PM
^-- green
I'm pretty sure that a variation to be scum would mean in the list of scum roles there would be a red one.
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He can't be third party because MZ confirmed him. He is either a mason or both he and MZ are scum. Which is the theory you prefer?
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
It's because he called the role "mason recruiter" rather than mason?
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
If G32 is mason, when he comes back to the thread he'll just claim whoever he masoned last night. But w/e he's scum
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I'm trying to make sense of everything. Toad now that the cat is out of the bag or whatever, can you explain in detail why you think Gait is a mason? Clearly and succinctly please?
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nope.
I'd say we look for a 2nd lynch while keeping Gambit as an option and just wait for his answer.
If he is not a mason we can lynch him although I still think theres better lynches around.
If he is a mason he lynch into something like VE / kita / zealos
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
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VE is the worst lynch EVAH!!!
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
If we're sticking to the meta side of things, that's not a town-Toad thing to do. One of the main things that I see from your play is that your posts are clear and show ever single thought about your claims, and I've always liked that.
But you saying no to it doesn't look right to me.
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On May 31 2012 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
He can't be third party because MZ confirmed him. He is either a mason or both he and MZ are scum. Which is the theory you prefer?
MZ confirmed that he's a mason, not that he's town.
In a game with multiple different masons why would you assume they're all town?
Again, until we have mod confirmation of that interpretation of the rules I don't think we should act as if we have more information about the mechanics than we actually do.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
SnB do you really think that in a normal game, there is a SECOND third party guy, AND he's a mason?
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
like, how is that somehow more likely than "MZ and Toad are both lying scum"
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The reason G32 is better than a phagga lynch is cause phagga didn't vote.
Most scum will vote just to stay alive but townies who go legitimately inactive won't usually vote without actually coming back to play.
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